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Really, you guys calling Jack a scammer and his charity organization bogus is more sickening than anything Jack posted. This appears to be the first instance of something going wrong and you guys jump all over it like he's running an all out scam. It's very typical of NVG to get into this mob mentality and just relentlessly attack whoever is being called out no matter what. If Jack was actually out to scam people wouldn't it make much more sense for him to pay off OP so he could keep quiet about it?

THINK ABOUT IT FOR ONE ****ING SECOND FFS PAY SOMEONE $200 AND KEEP SCAMMING PEOPLE OR BE EXPOSED AS A SCAMMER OVER $200!!! Even the most inept thief could figure this one out.

If it's proven that Jack is in fact profiting from his charity work then fine, I'm wrong and I'm the most gullible person on earth. But until there's any concrete proof please don't make these outlandish claims.

He himself admitted to making 10k. That's proof. He didnt pay up what he said he would......
Correct? That is a scam so stop acting like everyone is out of line for 200 measly bucks. What if it was you?

This obv needs to be addressed.

This guy is so obviously a scammer, and the charity is so obviously a scam.

It's evident that there are a bunch of twoplustwo'er's stupid enough to end up sending their savings one day to Osombandi Ikoloagoawage, the former Finance Minister of Nigeria, who has 9 million dollars to share with you if you help him smuggle it out of the country.

"I'm going to get you paid". "I will take care of the money for the tickets", etc., etc.

Anyone not a total moron conman, anyone sincere, would've said "I will be FedExing you a Bank Check tomorrow, and it will be in your hand the day after".

Phony charity, not filing IRS forms, not listed by the Charity Watchdog organizations, hyper defensive guy in charge who is totally incompetent, tries to not pay someone about $200 bucks worth of tickets for 6 months, doesn't care what people think of him, you should be ashamed as you are hurting people with cancer, raked 10k for himself but can't pay 3 people for tickets he owes them but instead tries to guilt them into letting it go and/or belittle them for trying to get what was promised OVER 6 MONTHS AGO, etc., etc.

People - he is a scammer, he needs to be reported to the IRS, and outed via the local press where he holds these events and the Police Department in those cities.
And the pros appearing at these need to be notified of this.

So effing stupid that when he came into the thread with a ghost handle or with an accomplice, they didn't even bother to coordinate their stories about the sick and/or dead cancer victim father.

Huh?

This thread is a trainwreck.

Give the guy a chance at least.

Sure, jimmywhitey. Great point.

Give him another 6 months - anyone deserves one year minimum to take care of a simple payoff that should've taken a few days to resolve.

Apparently the magic word is "CANCER" and the gullible put their blinders on.

It just makes sense to be cautious until UCARE shows a break down of how it spends the donation money it receives. I don't see any of that info on their website.

I don't get why he took $10,000 from the charity. Has this been addressed?

thank god...finally someone with a bit of sense. Honestly i can't believe the idiots who have posted in response to jw's post up to this post by stanski (i haven't read beyond this post at this point). Honestly all the criticism of this guy is embarrassing...to say that his initial response is rude, insensitive, off the mark or whatever is absurd. For some reason this thread has tilted me more than any thread i've ever read in nvg. What a bunch of whiny paranoid nerds you nvg idiots are. Fk me.

Chainsaw just stop. This is not unusual. But the UCARE rep really needs to address the blue dudes posts ITT.

again...... this. I have to stop reading this thread, i'm getting too worked up. when i read jw's first post i thought 'good, end of thread' ...but then to read the next 50 or so posts all criticizing the guy made me realise what sort of morons lurk in this forum

lol....mind blown

and for this reason threads like this should be deleted from the internet because if all is legit with this company what a disgrace this thread would turn out to be.

OK so after initially giving Jack the benefit of the doubt this makes me a bit leery about the whole situation.

For some reason the story was deleted IDK It will also ask you to print something just press cancel.

Sketchy article

Not complying with BBB

Joel Zandrowicz - NSFW'ish

Doesn't seems to be associated with the charity any longer but it seems like they go back a few years.


And although this looks super sketchy we should still wait for Jack to produce paper work before we officially call him a scumbag scammer =/

Oh ok.

Threads been going less than 24 hours and he's already been found guilty by dozens of people who have no idea what the hell theyre talking about.

And my point was great, his ramblings made no sense.

Oh wow, this is such a shame.

Agree, there is some very irresponsible criticism itt. Before you post plase think about the possible effects of undermining what may be a positive effort by someone to do some good in the world. Bear in mind that the charity only started in 2009, is small and likely under-resourced. $10,000 pay to the President is not shocking in itself and if he was working full time (tbc) for 2 years would be very modest.

Having said that, there are unfortunately charity scams around, including those that use a charitable cover for related commercial operations. I don't see anything in OPs account that would suggest the operation is in any way a scam (seems more like an admin failure and not a cleer way to scam). Any doubts about legitimacy can be adressed by being more open. A legit charity will have no reason to hide the facts. JW, would you be willing to supply the following info?...

(1) The 1099s
(2) Latest accounts
(3) Summary of how much gross rake was raised from events so far and how much net went to cancer causes.
(4) Confirmation of the status of the organisation and any related entities. In particular, are there any linked commercial entities involved?

If you really want to nail this you could also copy the correspondence with the events company where they promise the tickets and later refuse to provide them.

Also, can you clarify what you mean here?...
I think it is highly likely the charity is legit, as the vast majority are, and believe it should be given the benefit of the doubt until either there is some contrary evidence or it acts suspiciously (eg by refusing to provide reasonable info). I very much hope that legitimacy is confirmed and, if so, that some itt who have jumped to more extreme conclusions (or adopted a fairly viscious tone) will offer an apology to an individual who has dedicated his time to a good cause. If it is not legit then I hope it gets closed down and exposed as using a cause like cancer to scam would be one of the lowest forms of scumbaggery known to man.

Hmmm, well that is interesting. I guesse we will see what happens.

This company organized a tournament, failed to pay the second place prize for months and then comes here and says he'll be the bigger man and pay the prize himself since the prize winner is making a big fuss about it.

In what bizarro universe is all that legit? Because they have the word 'cancer' in the name no one should question the company? And we can't question the guy running it because his father may be a victim/casualty?

The company might not be a scam and might just be run by a careless/lazy/unorganized guy, but the burden of proof should no longer be on the op after the BS that guy posted.

I wrote my previous post before seeing the Ce1ska post which raises further issues. In particular the BBB link contains reference to a lot of issues around reporting, accountability, privacy protection, fundraising complaints etc

JW: I think it is also important that you adress these and supply the documents which you are supposed to publish (expenses, board members, gaap accounts etc)

Some well respected members on here have jumped down
the throats of some posters for starting a witch-hunt against
Jack and U.C.A.R.E. without any proof, etc.

By the same token these members shouldnt be sticking up for an
organisation they know nothing about and have no evidence that the
charity is run legitimately.

i'm sorry but i don't see a single bit of bs this guy posted. Yes op had problems receiving his prize but to conclude that this company are scammers over a $200 payout is a stretch as far as i'm concerned. The guy gives what i believe is a reasonable explanation of why this occurred. Get over it i say.

The sketchy article does indeed look sketchy to me.
I always thought that charity workers were volunteers and did it for
no money i guess i was wrong.

The link that Ce1ska posted says the charity spent $129,000 but gave out only $82,000. The BBB link says it has 3 full time and 3 part time employees. That doesn't seem to go with him only receiving $10K. Not saying the charity is bogus but an explanation would be appreciated.