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11-14-2018 , 05:45 AM
How was she recording the results from the stake for you to see? Is she claiming she made an error and there’s a disrepency due to that? During the arbitration process wasn’t the makeup amount and remaining stake funds mentioned and confirmed by both of you to arbiters?
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11-14-2018 , 10:29 AM
Wow, "desperate times call for desperate measures". Kydd, I wouldn't just walk away I'd run.
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11-14-2018 , 10:52 AM
I think its both parties responsibility but the bigger mistake was made by KyddDynamite for sure.

Its either ur exaggarating her drug habits or you didnt make good business decision.

someone needs to be really out of his mind to do the following:
1. giving money to someone you are not sure beats 5-10 as you heard others describe her plays
2. giving more money to someone seemingly having an addiction. Usually when a "stranger" see someones drug problem that problem is not on level 1 anymore, way above that.
3. giving more money to someone who rarely plays, not even that, but gave her money to play 2.5x / 5x / 10x


lol


You can cry all you want but you made very bad decisions based on that but still want your money back crying- freerolling.

If you want the good side with staking ppl here you go, it has the bad sides also. Its not like you always have good deals. Should calculate it in. lol

Or maybe Im missing something important.
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11-14-2018 , 10:55 AM
" I doubt Chad(cant say %100 of course) staked her to get laid with her, that makes no sense from a business perspective."

of course and ppl only do things that are logical, and good business sense
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11-14-2018 , 08:35 PM
when did she quit twitter?
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11-15-2018 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by KyddDynamite
Update: Stop me if you've heard this one before, but Cate Hall goes from, "I don't owe Chad any money" to "Chad owes me money". She claims that I didn't give her enough money to cover her losses, and that she lost her own money on stake - which needs reimbursed by me. This all happened in March or before, but just being brought up for the first time now.

lol, that may be the most insulting thing someone can do when they owe someone money. Sorry you were taken advantage of Kydd. Good job staying as composed as you seem to be so far. Hope this somehow works out for you and you at least get some $ back.
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11-15-2018 , 04:42 PM
I was always curious how staking for live cash games went

How do u not know every time she busted she didn’t just pocket 1k and say she lost it playing on the stake?

I guess a lot of trust must be involved, just seems most poker players haven’t proved to be the most trustworthy group of people.
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11-15-2018 , 04:54 PM
She is getting her side of the story ready so she won’t feel as bad when she pops up with a new backer.
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11-15-2018 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KyddDynamite
$6.3k
1.3k + 6.3k = 7.6k.

At this rate, Cate will be out of makeup in no time.
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12-02-2018 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Toupee Jay

If the final number is only $1,300 then Chad got off easy. To argue over that small amount is a pretty nitty move. Write it (and her) off and go on your way. Anyone who can't afford a $1,300 loss shouldn't be gambling anyway. They better get a job and keep it.

Toupee Jay proceeds to make a thread about the hustler casino making him "jump through hoops" to pay out $600. And that's after he got paid. What a hypocritical entitled nit.
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12-02-2018 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbum983
I was always curious how staking for live cash games went

How do u not know every time she busted she didn’t just pocket 1k and say she lost it playing on the stake?

I guess a lot of trust must be involved, just seems most poker players haven’t proved to be the most trustworthy group of people.
Jonathan Little doesn't do any staking, but he said in one of his books that he has a small group of trusted friends that help each other out by lending and moving money around for convenience. The loans are always paid back quickly. I got the impression that his definition of quickly was within a month or two.
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12-02-2018 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mathlizard888
Toupee Jay proceeds to make a thread about the hustler casino making him "jump through hoops" to pay out $600. And that's after he got paid. What a hypocritical entitled nit.
Two VERY different situations, but you're too stupid to understand that.
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12-03-2018 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Toupee Jay
Two VERY different situations, but you're too stupid to understand that.
MENSA didn't think so when I passed their tests with room to spare.

I know the difference between how Little handles money and what's being discussed in this thread. The way that things like backing or staking are done is what's stupid. No contract, no recourse, no proof of anything. I went as far as I could in the opposite direction and I've never regretted it.

in 1985, I had never been inside a casino and as far as I knew no one that I knew played poker except for an occasional home game. I saw it on TV and got interested. I wondered what it was like to win a million dollars in a poker tournament.

I got a poker book from a library, which eventually led me to 2+2. One of the things that I found out that most of those players weren't winning a million dollars at all. It was all a big lie. I was reading about staking and selling pieces in these forums and I found out that some of those "poker millionaires" owed more than half of their check to backers.

In 1986 I was playing micro MTTs on PokerStars. I thought that it would be fun to play a big tournament, so I played a $3.30 MTT with over 4,000 players, final tabled it and cashed for $384.

I decided right then that I would never be backed, sell pieces or any of that foolishness. Someone sent me a PM, offering to back me to play $5 SNGs. I thought that was bizarre. From then on, every penny that I won would be mine and I would handle it carefully.

The way that the poker economy works, as discussed in this thread, is nuts. Would you make any kind of verbal contract worth thousands of dollars with someone? I wouldn't and most people, inside or outside of poker, would not.

I am a Jonathan Little fan, partly because I admire the way he does business. I've learned a lot from him. He handles his money carefully. In the book that I referred to he had several cautionary tales about dumb things that players do with their money. One player got a million dollar cash and used all of it as a down payment on a ten million dollar home. That didn't end well. When Little gets a big cash he invests in real estate.

I don't do stupid stuff, and that includes business deals without a contract. I'm a bankroll nit. I'm careful, some would say too careful, but I never get burned. I can't relate to anything in the discussion in this thread so I guess this will be my final post.
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12-03-2018 , 12:41 AM
Your date recollection may be a bit LoL off. PokerStars didn't come into existence until 2001.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PokerStars

One of the original rooms, Planet Poker started up in 1997.

Last edited by Videopro; 12-03-2018 at 01:46 AM.
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12-03-2018 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Toupee Jay
Two VERY different situations, but you're too stupid to understand that.
Majorly different - She is definitely not a multi-millionaire.
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12-03-2018 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
MENSA didn't think so when I passed their tests with room to spare.

I know the difference between how Little handles money and what's being discussed in this thread. The way that things like backing or staking are done is what's stupid. No contract, no recourse, no proof of anything. I went as far as I could in the opposite direction and I've never regretted it.

in 1985, I had never been inside a casino and as far as I knew no one that I knew played poker except for an occasional home game. I saw it on TV and got interested. I wondered what it was like to win a million dollars in a poker tournament.

I got a poker book from a library, which eventually led me to 2+2. One of the things that I found out that most of those players weren't winning a million dollars at all. It was all a big lie. I was reading about staking and selling pieces in these forums and I found out that some of those "poker millionaires" owed more than half of their check to backers.

In 1986 I was playing micro MTTs on PokerStars. I thought that it would be fun to play a big tournament, so I played a $3.30 MTT with over 4,000 players, final tabled it and cashed for $384.

I decided right then that I would never be backed, sell pieces or any of that foolishness. Someone sent me a PM, offering to back me to play $5 SNGs. I thought that was bizarre. From then on, every penny that I won would be mine and I would handle it carefully.

The way that the poker economy works, as discussed in this thread, is nuts. Would you make any kind of verbal contract worth thousands of dollars with someone? I wouldn't and most people, inside or outside of poker, would not.

I am a Jonathan Little fan, partly because I admire the way he does business. I've learned a lot from him. He handles his money carefully. In the book that I referred to he had several cautionary tales about dumb things that players do with their money. One player got a million dollar cash and used all of it as a down payment on a ten million dollar home. That didn't end well. When Little gets a big cash he invests in real estate.

I don't do stupid stuff, and that includes business deals without a contract. I'm a bankroll nit. I'm careful, some would say too careful, but I never get burned. I can't relate to anything in the discussion in this thread so I guess this will be my final post.
Lol wtf this have to do with anything, no one cares about u winning 384$ in 1985

Drugs are bad...mmmmk

Last edited by golfbum983; 12-03-2018 at 01:08 AM.
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12-03-2018 , 05:01 AM
I was wondering what was still going on in this thread and I was met with content that matched my expectations
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12-03-2018 , 08:16 AM
Did they even have the internet in 1986 lol? I dont think I remember even using it before like 1995.
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12-03-2018 , 08:59 AM
I can confirm playing with him in micro MTTs on PokerStars in 1986
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12-03-2018 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Toupee Jay
Two VERY different situations, but you're too stupid to understand that.
Yeah in your case you actually got paid dummy
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12-03-2018 , 09:37 AM
Games must have been so soft on Pokerstars in 1985 and 1986
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12-03-2018 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
MENSA didn't think so when I passed their tests with room to spare.
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12-03-2018 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rm81
Did they even have the internet in 1986 lol?
Yes. But the users tended to be smarter and RFOL was our "lol".
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12-03-2018 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Games must have been so soft on Pokerstars in 1985 and 1986
The games were very soft in 1985, but in 1986 Mensa members started final tabling all of the tournaments and ruined the games
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12-03-2018 , 11:02 AM
^^ lolz

just for reference, this 2400 baud modem was one of the hottest gadgets for the year 1985.




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the Smartmodem 2400 was lightning fast compared to the 1200 and 300 bits-per-second devices available at the time.
https://www.zdnet.com/pictures/the-h...ech-of-1985/8/
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