Pop-corn is getting saltier

you guys have to see it from the perspective of the whales. even if it's neutral ev for multiple players to be backed at the same table and can even be +ev (as it was when chad was backing multiple players at 2/5 that sucked at poker), the whales did not perceive it that way. they were uncomfortable with it and chose to not play

chad was basically cannabilizing his own games by putting multiple stakes at the same table, the really bad players decided to sit out and the good ones decided to use it to their advantage. as long as there is no communication between players it's basically impossible to gain an edge but easy to lose one by two players soft playing each other at a cash table

You sound like someone who loses at poker and needs someone else to blame for it. I'd be willing to bet you think I stake people that i don't and don't know ones I do.

We haven't made contact. I expect her to scum the $1,300 and eventually make a return to poker in a few years and pretend like arbitration didn't happen and scum again.

This thread can ultimately be summed up by that relatively small number. $1300.

She might feel that this number is significant to her future lifestyle. That seems sad considering her prior station in life but feels fair considering how she views her responsibility in matters of money.

He can honor the results of the arbitration and accept that she doesn't owe the makeup, but still notify the community of what his staking experience was like with her. Everyone can then make their own decision as to whether this makes her unstakeable or not.

. . . will most likely return the 1300 hmmm.

There are some fundamental codes of gambling being intertwined in these events and it seems like CH is the only one to have violated any of them. I mean the guy is giving live cash game stakes, trusting people he has whatever reasons to trust. There's not much he can do to prevent a horse from palming a few extra black chips before reporting his number for the session. Only the backer can get screwed there. But if he can run a profit, building that stuff in, then instincts are good or he's lucky. Nothing that shows the backer isn't abiding by fundamental gambling codes here.

Perhaps it's bc she doesn't have a ton of experience as a gambler. I'd give her the benefit of the doubt for that - if she wasn't spinning her position, for what appears to be solely for financial leverage. It seems like she's had a legitimate rough time in life and is unfortunately using that as a justification for breaking those codes (the angle). The 1300 seems like an unauthorized loan/theft up until now. People don't usually run off with money for months and then all of a sudden decide to return it.

If Chad follows the arbitrators' ruling and she doesn't owe any of the makeup, can we talk about what happens if she continues to play poker either on her own money or as part of another stake?

If she does that than she broke the agreement, is scum, and owes the makeup. She likely won't pay in that case, but she would be a scummy scammer.

LOL no.

Perhaps she's just a self righteous scumbag.

She did steal the $1300, no way you can defend that

you could, or you could think of something better to do with your life.

I’m not defending the 1300, and I think Cate has some kind of moral obligation to repay a chunk of the stake. But your broader narrative is silly and wrong.

Lmao shut up

I made a post saying it should be added to the thread title she stole 1,3k and that post was deleted. What is the reason for this?

because the stake is still ongoing. chad hasn't fired her yet.

Scroll up. Your post wasn't deleted.

Haha, my bad, apologies.

It took me a while but I finally caught up to all of this. I think Cate is wrong here big time and owes the makeup. Not paying back the last $1,300 is a real scumbag move. I feel like she was a wild card to begin with. She seems to have some **** going on in her life. Whether its the drugs, talking to god, or any other health related issues she's got. It sucks for Chad because I don't think he will ever get any of the money he deserves but at the minimum I hope that this situation will never get Cate another stake giving her the opportunity to scum out on others.

Staking poker players is a losing proposition anyway. If you're a poker player, you're a lot better off just staking yourself! Proof of that is when you see "big name" players running around trying to sell shares in themselves just to get into a tournament. What happened to all the money they've supposedly won? Many of them are willing to play for 25% or less just to get in, since they have no money of their own. Now why would I want to partially stake someone like that?

If you wouldn't stake one of the so called name players, who in their right mind would stake someone like Cate Hall? Good luck with that investment strategy. You are almost 100% guaranteed to go broke staking the average poker player (of course they all think they're champions!).

If the final number is only $1,300 then Chad got off easy. To argue over that small amount is a pretty nitty move. Write it (and her) off and go on your way. Anyone who can't afford a $1,300 loss shouldn't be gambling anyway. They better get a job and keep it.

Trollololol

1300 is whats left of the roll not what has been lost on the stake

Why does this have so many responses? What outcome did you really expect staking a mediocre, run of the mill player? Maybe he thought something "off the felt" would happen between them?

We all know how this ends, don't we?

She takes a short break from poker and never repays her debt. She then pops up in a mid stakes game in a few months or a year and pretends like nothing happened. And no one really cares, because most players lose and the poker landscape is littered with stories like this.

Bolded is gross, and I don't mean that in a jab at her appearance kind of way. I'm not staking girls in hopes to maybe get laid ffs.