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Thanks for the support. Things should turn out fine, reward or not. Its surprising the guy is out on bail but there's little question about his guilt. For the record I did move so you won't find me in Vienna anytime soon. Good luck on the tables-

02-05-2011 , 05:39 PM

#202

evry

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provotrout...good job!
BTW...I wonder if there are others here on 2+2 that were also contacted by the bandit and now they're wondering if the police are gonna come calling for info on whether they were attempting to buy stolen chips. the way you did it, you finessed any implication.
Also, it is your testimony that they would need since he confessed to being the robber to you. For the others, it's only circumstantial. sure...he confessed to some police, but any confessions to authorities are subject to hightened scrutiny (ie. miranda rights, entrapment, coercion etc.).
As for the $25,000 chips. Even if they are non-cashable, they are worth a lot of money to casino chip collectors. Imagine what they will be worth in 20-30 years.

02-05-2011 , 06:18 PM

#203

JackGunner

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Why would PN be promoting the distribution of stolen property? Idiotic column written for degenerates. ... Probably why I enjoyed it.

02-05-2011 , 07:44 PM

#204

Bigdaddydvo

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2+2 gets a mention on the AP wire:

Quote:

On Jan. 16, Carleo approached Brooks on Two Plus Two, a popular Web forum where the heist was a hot topic, with players discussing how the bandit might try to turn his chips into real money, Brooks said. Eventually, they talked by phone.

At first, Carleo spoke vaguely at first about the chips, Brooks said, but gradually he became more specific.

"That's when I kind of got more pointed in questions and asked specifically: 'Did you do this? Is this your deal or did you just get some of the chips and you know the guy?' And he said, 'No that's me,'" said Brooks, 29.

Carleo e-mailed several pictures to Brooks depicting two $25,000 Bellagio chips — affectionately known as "cranberries" to gamblers because of their color.

"Cranberries are good for the liver!" reads the postscript on the note in the picture.

Brooks called the FBI, local police and the casino.

02-05-2011 , 08:01 PM

#205

bigtex21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by provotrout

You can sue for negligence i imagine. When a cop doesn't give you warning that you'll be outer publicly Ina case that may involve organized crime I imagine a few judges around the country would view that as irresponsible conduct. An abdication of fiduciary responsibility.

That being said, I was stressed and worked up last night. I've talked with the lawyer in my family. He's not worried about my safety and is mostly making fun of me for accepting interviews, but he acknowledges the need to do so given the reward. I'm public now so why not try to claim a portion of the reward?

At this point I have no intention of suing Vegas PD. They ran a good investigation for a month Only to make a rookie mistake with the release of info in the police report.

If I sue them successfully the cops don't really pay, it just drains resources from a struggling state.. Not a great result all things considered.

The state of Nevada has a law that limits suits against state or local entities to $50,000 so by the time a lawyer gets 40% plus expenses it is hardly worth the time and trouble of a suit.

02-05-2011 , 08:48 PM

#206

suzzer99

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Yeah I don't even bother to pick up $30k laying on the street..

02-05-2011 , 09:47 PM

#207

All-inMcLovin

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lmaooooo

I figured the robber might have been reading this thread. There were some good ideas in here but he didn't listen to any of them lmao.

This is unbelievable, if this was a movie, I'd walk out of the theater saying no ****ing way, not real!

LMAOOO @ the police report where he emails provo and asks "What does live rakeback mean?"

lmaoooooooooooooooooooo

I'm just surprised he didn't get caught sooner.

Like the day after.

02-05-2011 , 09:57 PM

#208

vegasjay

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Well i think the poker dealer that turned in Anthony Carleo will get the reward in my opinion. He was the 1st person to tip off police when i read the report. It says the Bandit told him this 3 days be4 the Bellagio was robbed and it gives details of there conversations in person and via text so i dont know. What does every1 else think?

02-05-2011 , 10:06 PM

#209

duh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blibbity blobbity

Quote:

Originally Posted by oceanspray25

I see I see.... So has anyone heard from the B robber or does anyone know where to get some discounted cranberries?

I can't say that I wouldn't buy a few for $5k each and then figure out what to do with them.....I'd imagine thats a good problem to have.... IMO of course.

You think the guy would accept a 50/50 split on any chips that are cashed?

fwiw blibbity blobbity == oceanspray25

02-05-2011 , 10:07 PM

#210

LVGambler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vegasjay

So you deal poker at the Bellagio?

Last edited by LVGambler; 02-05-2011 at 10:08 PM. Reason: nice 1st post then lol

02-05-2011 , 10:16 PM

#211

vegasjay

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nah... im a summer guy that runs an "umbrella" stand......

02-05-2011 , 10:24 PM

#212

LVGambler

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sounds like you have it right according to the report

02-05-2011 , 10:39 PM

#213

Professor_Weapon

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salvation salvation is free

02-05-2011 , 11:01 PM

#214

LVGambler

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^ last time I checked it was 10% of all gross income

02-05-2011 , 11:05 PM

#215

KingBBinLV

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Quote:

Originally Posted by provotrout

Its surprising the guy is out on bail

Provotrout this guy is not out on bail, he is still in CCDC and he has maybe a 1% chance of getting bail.

He has a bail of 15k for 1 of the charges, but the other charge is no bail.

You can check here:http://redrock.co.clark.nv.us/ccdcin...odySearch.aspx

and it will show you his status.

02-05-2011 , 11:07 PM

#216

Lopaka

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vegasjay

You think a dealer who waited 8 days after a robbery that he was tipped off about BEFORE it happened should get a reward before an individual who had multiple telephone conversations with the suspect, led the suspect to believe he was an ally, got verbal confessions from him then turned him in to the police the FBI and the casino? Right buddy.

02-05-2011 , 11:12 PM

#217

vegasjay

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Did you read the police report? Maybe he was scared for his life... I dunno im glad hes caught. He looks like a total psycho.

02-05-2011 , 11:46 PM

#218

OffSuit72

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Too bad I haven't been on 2+2 in a while.This read is awesome. I skimmed the police report but didn't see the name of the dealer. Is it posted as well or did they hide it due to him being a Bellagio employee? I was just curious.

02-06-2011 , 12:19 AM

#219

provotrout

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KingBBinLV

Good, think that's the right thing to do. Thanks for the info

02-06-2011 , 12:31 AM

#220

2DMB2LIV

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^

I think you really want to keep an eye on whether he bails out or not.
From the picture, this guy looks as if his IQ is capped at 70 max.
Looks like an angry mongoloid and I wouldn't want to be on his bad side, that's for sure.

02-06-2011 , 12:37 AM

#221

bocablkr

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Provo,

Just wanted to say job well done. I would have done the same in your shoes. Hope you and the dealer get some part of the reward. Be safe.

02-06-2011 , 01:10 AM

#222

Motherflopper

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I finally realized who dude looks like. Hank Azaria.

http://www.celebritywonder.com/pictu..._12984717.html

02-06-2011 , 01:19 AM

#223

teddyFBI

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Quote:

Originally Posted by provotrout

Quote:

Originally Posted by provotrout

Cliffs: Bellagio slow played the arrest in order to reclaim more chips

Las Vegas PD ignored witness security and whored me out. I am getting a lawyer and telling my family to do the same. Vegas PD should have redacted large portions of the arrest report that are not relevant to public disclosure. They failed to do so and put people at risk unnecessarily, namely my family. To be continued.. I spoke with 2 lawyers tonight and am on the warpath. My family has paid taxes and followed the law for several decades. Now my cooperation puts their existence at risk.

I understand that you're pissed about this, as I would be, but the relevant Q isn't whether they were irresponsible; it's merely what the law says about the issue.

1) Did the lawyer you consulted indicate whether the PD's conduct was illegal, and if so > just what is the law vis a vis naming witnesses in police reports?

2) At any time did you ask the PD whether your ID would be kept confidential in documents made public? (Speaking solely for myself, that seems to be one of the very first things I'd ask when I went to them...), or did they otherwise promise you that it would?

02-06-2011 , 05:59 AM

#224

ChicagoJoey

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so epic

02-06-2011 , 07:16 AM

#225

provotrout

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Quote:

Originally Posted by teddyFBI

The issue at hand is civil liability, not criminal liability. Negligence isn't a crime per-se, but it can result in a large financial transfer of wealth post act.

I don't know that Vegas PD violated any laws, but that's immaterial when you're dealing with a suit focused on negligence and blatant disregard for sensitive matters like witness safety.

Vegas PD either dropped the ball or rushed their internal processing.

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