Katz has fired yet another lawsuit. I can't find much information about this latest one.

I sure would like to read it, though, because apparently we might be in trouble just for talking about it?

Is Katz saying that he's prepared to sue random people on the internet for defamation? Is it possible to access this filing somewhere?

Poast

I search for new stuff about this every few days or so, and so far I havent really seen anything new. I havent seen anything about this new lawsuit anywhere except for Mark Steyn's website.

Does anybody know how it works when a judge demands somebody to pay somebody else? How long does Cary Katz/CRTV have to pay Mark Steyn his money? Can they hold out until the new lawsuit between Cary Katz and CRTV is finished?

What kinda bothers me, is CRTV's marketing is slightly different from PokerGo in that they push the annual subscriptions a lot more than the monthly subscriptions. (Where as PokerGo is like "Hey sign up for $10 to watch Tom Dawn play poker after dark or DNegs and Polk in the SHRB") They even have a 3 year subscription for $199. Because these lawsuits are not particularly well known, Im sure a lot of people are subscribing without realizing that there is serious questions about how long CRTV can stay in business.

CRTV with an interesting Refer a customer deal:

If CRTV had made it work with Steyn, I would sign up in a heartbeat. I live Levin, he is like an angry uncle who lives in a bomb shelter and broadcasts on ham radio.

But Steyn is a whole ‘nother level of entertainment. Katz should have better people able to cater to whatever Steyn wanted because Katz rightly identified him as a home run personality that could have put CRTV on the map.

Now, they are paying ridiculous amounts for referrals....

So, is CRTV in court cases that aren't completely unlikely to bankrupt them, and are selling 3 year subscriptions meanwhile? eeeehhhh.... Sounds super iffy legally

basically all business enterprises founded or run by right wing radio/tv personalities amount to nothing more than grifting operations that prey on the un/mis-informed

the first goal is always to separate the rubes from their money

this sounds completely unbiased and informed. thanks so much for your well thought out and explained opinion.

Here you go...

lol

Steyn swears he's not keeping a dollar of his winnings (should they ever be awarded).

https://www.steynonline.com/8711/a-note-to-my-readers

There might be a little bit of an update to this from the CRTV side of things... however, let me preface it by saying that Steven Crowder has been known to play these kinds of jokes before, and this whole thing might be an act and has nothing to do with Cary Katz and his lawsuit. Ill put a TL;DR at the end.

On Steven Crowder's show "Louder with Crowder" he has an intern named Sven Computer. He is a computer and has become a popular character on the show, specifically because he has done some undercover videos. Couple weeks ago, when Sven was introduced at the beginning of the show, he held up a sign saying "#SCIAL(&DPHE)" for only a few seconds, without it ever being mentioned on the show.


At the end of the show, Crowder likes to end the Thursday show with a monologue that's a little deeper than what the rest of the show usually is. On this episode, Crowder talked about being gracious. He talked about being a kid and his parents gave him some money to buy a toy, he wanted the creepy crawler machine, but could only afford the the molds and not the actual machine, and how his parents would buy him the machine if they could afford it, but he needed to be gracious for what he got. He also talked about an employee who got a 15% raise, but wanted a 60% raise, and how he should be gracious with the 15% raise.

After the show Sven tweeted that he was fired, and that it was for real (it's a long running joke that Crowder likes to "fire" people all the time, as a joke... they even made a video with Dean Cain firing Sven Computer). Sven hasnt been on the show since, and they have since posted a job opening that seems similar to what Sven was doing before. Some fans on twitter think #SCIAL(&DPHE) means "Steven Crowder is a liar (and doesnt pay his employees)". I am wondering if this is all real, and the example Crowder gave in his monologue actually happened with Sven? Did Sven want a bigger raise and cut backs with CRTV caused them to let him go?

TL;DR- An intern/character on CRTV's most popular show was fired, potentially over a pay dispute. Does it have anything to do with Cary Katz? It could also all be a gag for the show.

I'm coming out of my 2+2 retirement to comment on the above post, because I have a few things to add.

First off, DrSayre, great analysis. This is the best explanation I've seen thus far regarding Sven's departure, and I think you're close to 100% correct.

My only doubt is that this is related to any CRTV cutbacks. The interns don't get paid too much anyway, and this matter looks more like a single employer-to-employee pay dispute, where the employee decided to get revenge by clowning the employer on a live broadcast.

While Crowder has indeed perpetrated "firing" hoaxes before, all the signs point to this being real. I also believe the assumed translation of #SCIAL(&DPHE) is correct.

There's also this odd column written on Jully 24, by Courtney Kirchoff and "Brodigan", two mostly-behind-the-scenes website writers. The column rails about work ethic and people feeling entitled, and it's clearly aimed at some particular individual and incident. Sven's supposed firing took place on July 20.

And yes, as you pointed out, Crowder also referenced the "employee" who wanted a 60% raise and only got 15%, in that day's monologue.

Finally, Sven recently tweeted out a video of himself looking normal, without his trademark cardboard "computer" over his head. So he was out of character. Which I assumed he would never do as long as he was associated with the show.

So what happened? Sven came over from Germany to take this job. I'm assuming that, at some point, Crowder mentioned that Sven could elevate above "intern" status, which would come with a 60% pay raise. Sven probably felt it was time for the promotion and 60% raise, especially given his recent popularity on the show. Crowder probably said it wasn't time, and offered him a 15% raise instead. Sven was probably really mad, quietly grew increasingly resentful, and then passive-aggressively lashed out with the hashtag on the live Thursday show.

A word about Crowder: I don't know him personally, but I've been watching him for years, and I've gotten a good idea of the guy's personality -- especially from some of his non-show appearances and behind -the-scenes views we've gotten. I believe he's an honest guy who isn't likely to lie to employees or intentionally screw him. I do feel that he's probably a perfectionist and a hard-ass to work for. They showed one behind-the-scenes clip where the point was to show the viewer something really funny that happened. However, near the beginning of the clip, Crowder is complaining out loud about how his shirt is wrinkled, how he hates these type of shirts, and seemed really agitated about the matter -- all while the shirt looked completely fine. So I bet a lot of that type of stuff goes on at Louder with Crowder, and he probably has a lot of pride in both the show itself and his status as the business owner. So when one of the interns attempted to clown him on the live broadcast over an ongoing pay dispute, he abruptly canned the guy, especially given that he felt he was already being generous to the guy.

Unless Sven presents evidence that Crowder promised him a 60% raise by 7/20/18 and didn't give it, I'm on Crowder's side here.

Sounds like an intern allowed his head to swell because people on the internet liked him, and that resulted in a self-overvaluation of his own worth to the company.

BTW, there was another weird "firing" from the show which I think might have been real but rescinded. In August 2017, "Not Gay Jared" (basically second highest ranked person on the show, behind Crowder) put out a video on Crowder's channel talking about how he just got fired. The video was yanked within minutes of being posted. Then there was silence for many hours about it. Then, after a lot of pressure on Twitter, Crowder and Jared claimed it was a joke/hoax while they were simply testing new equipment.

I didn't know what to believe, but it didn't have many aspects of a hoax. The video was up for such a short time that almost no one saw it. They did not attempt to play off the hoax at all. They yanked the video after minutes, sat silent, quickly dismissed it as a joke/hoax on Twitter when pressured, and never talked about it on the show. If it was a hoax, there was absolutely no purpose to it. My theory was that Crowder and Jared had some kind of big argument, resulting in Crowder firing him. Then Jared quickly made a video telling everyone why he wouldn't be seen on the channel anymore. Then Crowder found the video minutes later and deleted it. Then hours went by, the two guys (who also have become real life friends) kissed and made up, and they pretended the whole thing was a joke. That's what I believe.

Thanks Kilowatt, I have been trying to find anything about the $20M lawsuit and trying to connect the dots to everything with CRTV, that I didnt really stop to think about the more logical explanations lol. While Ive been a big fan of Sven (the undercover video he did at SxSW is probably one of my favorite videos), Ive never really stop to consider that maybe we only see part of what he does, and not everything Sven does.

That being said, if there was a deal between Sven and Crowder for a 60% raise (presumably before Cary Katz sued for $20M), I think it would be at least possible Crowder was hesitant to go through with it knowing he wouldnt have as much money. Either way, I think you are right, Im on Crowder's side and it was ridiculous for Sven to do that during the show. The only exception would be if they agreed on a date or some kind of requirement for Sven to get a 60% raise, and it's obvious he achieved that.

I also became a Sven fan after the SxSW video, and I agree it was hilarious (especially the uncensored version, which can still be found on YouTube).

I have always been curious if Crowder pays people directly, or if CRTV gives him the money to hire these employees.

That is, does Crowder just get a large lump sum for the show and Crowder hires and pays what he wants, or does he "expense" these employees to CRTV, where basically he can hire an unlimited number provided they approve?

Clearly CRTV is sinking a ton of money into this show, which is why Crowder was enticed to go "daily" with the show, which prior to late 2016 he swore would never happen.

Ive kinda wondered that too. Crowder has always said that his show was separate from CRTV and they more or less have a partnership, so I would imagine that means everybody on the show is paid by Crowder, and CRTV just pays Crowder to make the show?

Either way, this is why Ive never understood how CRTV can be profitable, even before this lawsuit happened. Im not sure how many subscribers they have, but I cant imagine they have enough to pay for everything. They have a ton of shows now (compared to 4 in the beginning). I believe they have even added some after Cary Katz's sued for his loan to be repaid. I dont know what it would mean for PokerGo, but I got to think CRTV will have some major cutbacks soon.

Not Gay Jared has quit Crowder, citing that his wife is pregnant and he will have a daughter within a few months.

Jared claims the show is too time consuming, and he needs to take on a less time-intensive job.

I assume that the parting was amicable, because unlike Sven, they jovially led up to the announcement, and then did a Jared retrospective at the end. They also stated that Jared may come around as a guest every so often.

I felt Jared was to Crowder what SrslySirius is to Doug Polk.

They could do just fine without Sven (who was new anyway), but Jared's departure may really make a difference.

I assume the show will keep plugging along for as long as the CRTV checks keep coming in.

Something still seems odd about it to me. Aaron (who Im not exactly sure what his role was, but somebody you saw a lot) also left the show. He is Jared's brother, so that might be why he left, maybe he makes a podcast or something with Jared, but still it's strange seeing all of these people leave at the same time. It's also strange to see Jared leave because of something that seems like it had to be planned for awhile, with no prior announcement.

I kinda feel like this has to be related with CRTV's lawsuit with Cary Katz, but everything else seems to be running as normal with CRTV. Also, maybe there's some reduction in original programming on PokerGo, but they have started doing Poker after Dark streams again.

I havent seen too much news about this lately, but I did notice that Mark Steyn has posted several court documents and transcripts that I havent seen before on this page. I cant tell if any of it is interesting or not.

CRTV is merging with The Blaze... I wonder what this means for PokerGo? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...rhouse-1165665

What ever happened with this?

Is PokerGo still producing content?

Katz is on the 100k High Roller live stream right now and the commentators are constantly praising him. Unbelievably tilting, considering the contents of this thread.

The World's Most Punchable Face takes down Aussie 100K

Yes lots of content. US Poker Open coming up. They've been running the great Doyle's Game as a regular high stakes non-NLHE/PLO stream which I love. They've also made some great 10-20 min features on various figures in poker. They seem to finally have come around to making lots of mixed game content. I haven't kept up with this thread but PokerGo at least in terms of content is better than ever.

tl;dr: CRTV and The Blaze (Glenn Beck's company) merged... that's really all I know for sure.. not sure how it relates to Cary Katz or PokerGo.

CRTV merged with The Blaze (company Glenn Beck created several years ago, that had racked up some serious debt) to form BlazeTV in early December.

Kilowatt and I have been trading PMs about this over the past few months. What we thought happened was The Blaze spent years getting out of debt by cutting costs and programming, was now finally in a position to acquire new personalities and programming. So the merge allows them to have several prominent conservatives personalities creating content for their platform. Although as soon as this move was announced, Michelle Malkin announced she would not continue with the company, and Gavin McInnes was let go with no reason given. (I dont want to make this too political, Im just stating what has happened recently... but I realize talking about Gavin McInnes and Donald Trump can make this get political) Gavin being fired has not been a popular move at all with people who subscribed to CRTV (especially with no reason given for his firing), and I feel like a lot of people canceled their subscription over that. Also a lot of people who subscribed to CRTV (mostly pro-Trump people) do not like Glenn Beck (who isnt really a fan of Trump and was #NeverTrump in 2016) getting involved.

So far I havent seen anything that shows what Cary Katz involvement is with BlazeTV. Maybe The Blaze gave Cary Katz his $20M back and he isnt involved anymore? But that seems odd to me since The Blaze probably couldve just waited a little longer for CRTV to go bust, then hire the CRTV personalities they wanted. Either way I havent seen anything that shows what Cary Katz involvement is with BlazeTV.

It looks like Mark Steyn has updated the webpage keeping track of all the lawsuits recently. Ill look through the new links he has posted later and see if there's any new information (specifically related to PokerGo)

As far as how all of this involves PokerGo? I dont really know. Everything Ive read about the merger hasn't mentioned PokerGo or Poker Central at all. I tweeted Sam Simmons (president of PokerGo/Poker Central) how this would affect PokerGo, but didnt get a response. Unless something changed, it kinda sounds like PokerGo new parent company could be The Blaze... which Im guessing some people will not like that. But Sam Simmons was made the president of PokerGo just before the merger happened, so perhaps there was an organizational restructuring that made PokerGo/Poker Central an independent company?