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Carrying a firearm at the poker table Carrying a firearm at the poker table

06-12-2021 , 12:07 AM
One time during a poker game at a casino, a player said he was gunnin’ for me.
06-12-2021 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Jones
Midwest has a lot of "charity" games. They are basically legal card rooms that get set up in a banquet hall or hotel convention room for the week. Only one security guard, and he's armed with a tazer.
Just to clarify in case there are any cowboys looking to get ideas. 99% sure that most of the staff are concealed carrying.
06-12-2021 , 04:09 AM
Everyone who's worried about guns at the poker table go ahead and name a time you've seen someone pull a gun at the table.

The only time I've ever heard of someone being shot at the poker table, besides Wild Bill, is from Doyle Brunson and he said both times someone was shot it was over a woman.

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
And yet somehow this works in many countries. Not judging either way, just pointing out that this is a little simplistic.
Would it work here in the USA though? And you mean homogeneous countries that don't have as many firearms as the good ole USA right? Because it doesn't work in Chicago, they have the strictest gun laws in the nation and the highest rates of gun violence. In a perfect world if we could get rid of all guns and all violence and all crime then sure let's do that. But we don't live in a perfect world and taking guns away from law abiding citizens just means only the criminals will have guns.
06-12-2021 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Everyone who's worried about guns at the poker table go ahead and name a time you've seen someone pull a gun at the table.

The only time I've ever heard of someone being shot at the poker table, besides Wild Bill, is from Doyle Brunson and he said both times someone was shot it was over a woman.



Would it work here in the USA though? And you mean homogeneous countries that don't have as many firearms as the good ole USA right? Because it doesn't work in Chicago, they have the strictest gun laws in the nation and the highest rates of gun violence. In a perfect world if we could get rid of all guns and all violence and all crime then sure let's do that. But we don't live in a perfect world and taking guns away from law abiding citizens just means only the criminals will have guns.
What is it with Republicans always needing to show their racist side and mention homogenous European counties?
And if you want to draw the conclusion that cities with strict gun laws have insane gun violence, could you please explain London, England to me? A non-homogenous city (44% white), averages about 120 murders per year, of which very few are gun-related.
And why does Japan, a country with over 100 million people, have fewer than 100 gun deaths per year?
Maybe it’s just me, but it sure seems like there are other factors that go into the violence in Chicago, like high poverty levels, etc.
06-12-2021 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
this is exceptionally hilarious considering the biggest cash game they offer up there at blackhawk is 5-100 spread limit and all these stoned morons buy in with like $150

imagine living your life in this much fear
Hmmmm, so what you are saying is that if there isn't that much money around you will never be raped, robbed or beat up? If there are no fat stacks of cash you are automatically safe? You just solved the worlds violence problems. You deserve a nobel peace prize.

I have a feeling the poster carries everywhere they go so when they happen to be in blackhawk the pistol is just naturally on them.

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Like a seatbelt. It's not fear, just prudence. We all live our lives the ways that best suit us and our experiences.
06-12-2021 , 06:37 AM
In what sane world should people be allowed to carry guns inside a casino where tempers flare and robberies happen and all sorts of stuff

LOL Americans and I say that as a dual citizen in no universe would I play in a poker game where some idiot is carrying a gun and it's utterly absurd to think it's a good idea in any way shape or form for random gambling civilians to have guns in a casino

If you want a good guy with a gun that's what casino security is for
06-12-2021 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
In what sane world should people be allowed to carry guns inside a casino where tempers flare and robberies happen and all sorts of stuff

LOL Americans and I say that as a dual citizen in no universe would I play in a poker game where some idiot is carrying a gun and it's utterly absurd to think it's a good idea in any way shape or form for random gambling civilians to have guns in a casino

If you want a good guy with a gun that's what casino security is for
I pack heat while I’m sitting at the table. 99% of the donkeys I play with are as oblivious to the fact that I’m going heavy as they are about quality starting hands. You mad? Yeah. You mad.
06-12-2021 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
Really ? They can and likely will bar you from reentry to all their casinos under common ownership if they feel like it.

Of course if you happen to show it while in some argument, there is probably a criminal assault charge in your future. If you pull it out or point it because you think some varmint is about to make off with your goods, was cheatin' ya ....good luck with escaping civil liability, Wild Bill.
Yes, but all of the above applies to any other kind of business wether they allow for you to bring a gun or not. That’s the point. Pretty sure Walmart bans you from their stores if you’re shooting people in one of those.

Just bringing the gun doesn’t violate any law even if there’s a sign that says no guns. It’s not like immigration at the airport where the sign specifically says that taking pictures violates federal law.
06-12-2021 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Yes, but all of the above applies to any other kind of business wether they allow for you to bring a gun or not. That’s the point. Pretty sure Walmart bans you from their stores if you’re shooting people in one of those.

Just bringing the gun doesn’t violate any law even if there’s a sign that says no guns.It’s not like immigration at the airport where the sign specifically says that taking pictures violates federal law.
You’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer, that’s for sure. I can tell you for a fact, it is a crime in the state of Ohio, where I live, the dirty crotch of America, that, even if you possess a CCW, there are certain places you absolutely cannot carry your weapon: police stations, schools, courts, airports beyond the secure area, etc. You will be charged with a crime. You will also be charged for carrying it into private businesses that display a particular sign that prohibits it.
Ignorance of the law is never an excuse. You badly need to educate yourself.
06-12-2021 , 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
If you want a good guy with a gun that's what casino security is for
At least in the US, most security guards don’t carry guns because the casino doesn’t want to pay for the potential consequences.

I asked a grocery store owner in the past why some of his security was armed and others weren’t. He told me that the ones who carry do so on their own account. They are instructed to never even pull the gun in any circumstance, specifically not during a robbery. Apparently that means the liability is with them if they do it anyway. The latter means the business doesn’t have to pay their insurance for having armed guards.
06-12-2021 , 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MHE
You’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer, that’s for sure. I can tell you for a fact, it is a crime in the state of Ohio, where I live, the dirty crotch of America, that, even if you possess a CCW, there are certain places you absolutely cannot carry your weapon: police stations, schools, courts, airports beyond the secure area, etc. You will be charged with a crime. You will also be charged for carrying it into private businesses that display a particular sign that prohibits it.
Ignorance of the law is never an excuse. You badly need to educate yourself.
Lol what? He and I were talking specifically about casinos in Las Vegas. Nobody thinks that you are allowed to bring your machine gun if you visit your dad in prison.
06-12-2021 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by fragglerock45
if a libtard is uncomfortable with me bringing my rocket propelled grendade launcher to the table that his problem. Ben Franklin didn't die in world war 2 to disable me from bringing one into binion's casino and resort.
Thank you so much for this post. 7% of readers take you seriously.

OP, I understand open carry is legal in NV, but bringing a firearm inside a LV casino is allowed? Didn't know. Either way, it doesn't surprise me that it happens.
06-12-2021 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MHE
I pack heat while I’m sitting at the table. 99% of the donkeys I play with are as oblivious to the fact that I’m going heavy as they are about quality starting hands. You mad? Yeah. You mad.
you scared tho? yeah. you scared.

you need that to sleep at night and you think a gun on your ankle makes you a real man. lol.
06-12-2021 , 08:42 AM
Can't speak for Cali, but if you play regularly anywhere West of Louisiana, you have most likely played with someone who is armed at the table.

In my experience (lol sample size), the most confrontational people I know do not want to be around people who are armed. At the same time, the people who I know to carry, do not engage in public disagreements.

I'm not interested in looking it up, but I have seen one popular 2nd amendment youtuber be confronted by security in a major casino. He assumed they knew him from his videos. They gave him the option to leave or lock his gun up.

They walked him to a secure room. He released his mag in a lock box. They had a bullet proof box where he could stick his gun in and eject the chambered round and then he placed the gun in the lock box.

When he left the casino he notified security and was allowed to get his gun. He said at no time did they touch him or his gun.
06-12-2021 , 08:48 AM
Seriously, anyone have any stories of someone pulling a gun at the table? 2nd hand stories? We've had poker and guns for a while where is the risk at?

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Originally Posted by MHE
What is it with Republicans always needing to show their racist side and mention homogenous European counties?
And if you want to draw the conclusion that cities with strict gun laws have insane gun violence, could you please explain London, England to me? A non-homogenous city (44% white), averages about 120 murders per year, of which very few are gun-related.
And why does Japan, a country with over 100 million people, have fewer than 100 gun deaths per year?
Maybe it’s just me, but it sure seems like there are other factors that go into the violence in Chicago, like high poverty levels, etc.
It's funny that you assume I'm racist because I point out facts. I'm not a republican either though it's telling that you assume and use that as an insult. London is very violent, look at the violent crime rate in London. Sure you might be more likely to survive being stabbed than shot. But we agree that it's clearly not the laws that contribute to a higher murder rate in a city like Chicago. And Chicago has a lower poverty rate than London also. So it's not that either, keep guessing.

And you can't compare other countries to US cities. We already have more guns than people in America. Criminals have easy access to guns over here. No laws will change that. Stop being obtuse. People who commit violent crimes are already breaking the law.

Japan has fewer gun deaths because they have fewer guns and they have much less crime in general. It has nothing to do with laws. It's already a crime in America to commit an assault with a gun. Making them illegal doesn't make them *poof* disappear. And honestly I wouldn't want them to. How many tens or hundreds of millions of people were murdered by governments in the twentieth century? The number of violent crimes committed by citizens pales in comparison to the massive scale governments have killed people in the past. Some people at the same time they call Trump a fascist also want to relinquish their 2nd amendment rights to the government. Not smart. Stop being obtuse.

America has a history of slavery. Let's tell descendants of slaves they can't own firearms. Just trust the government. History repeats itself guys, stop being obtuse. The 2nd amendment protects all other rights. How about the jews? Should jews be allowed to own guns? I mean nobody would ever want to hurt them right? Just get on the train and trust the government. Give us your guns and get in the showers. Government's would never do anything like that nowadays right though guys? While I don't think any of that is likely to happen in America if there's a ten thousandth of a percent chance that the government kills millions of people maybe we shouldn't give up our guns?

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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
In what sane world should people be allowed to carry guns inside a casino where tempers flare and robberies happen and all sorts of stuff

LOL Americans and I say that as a dual citizen in no universe would I play in a poker game where some idiot is carrying a gun and it's utterly absurd to think it's a good idea in any way shape or form for random gambling civilians to have guns in a casino

If you want a good guy with a gun that's what casino security is for
So you wouldn't play poker with Doyle Brunson? Because he's packing heat when he plays. Are you worried Doyle is gonna take a bad beat and shoot the place up?
06-12-2021 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MHE
I’m going heavy .
are you Vanilla Ice? You sound a lot like Vanilla Ice.

06-12-2021 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Lol what? He and I were talking specifically about casinos in Las Vegas. Nobody thinks that you are allowed to bring your machine gun if you visit your dad in prison.
So you’re saying a private business cannot refuse service to someone packing heat if they don’t want to? They absolutely can. And if you refuse, that’s trespassing.
06-12-2021 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
At least in the US, most security guards don’t carry guns because the casino doesn’t want to pay for the potential consequences.

I asked a grocery store owner in the past why some of his security was armed and others weren’t. He told me that the ones who carry do so on their own account. They are instructed to never even pull the gun in any circumstance, specifically not during a robbery. Apparently that means the liability is with them if they do it anyway. The latter means the business doesn’t have to pay their insurance for having armed guards.
That sort of blanket statement you've posted, of "the law", citing a "grocery store owner" conversation, is cringe-worthy.
06-12-2021 , 10:00 AM
This discussion seems to be shifting towards " do I or do I not have the right to carry a firearm at the poker table".

I think the point of discussion needs to be "is it a good idea"
06-12-2021 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
you scared tho? yeah. you scared.

you need that to sleep at night and you think a gun on your ankle makes you a real man. lol.
....not to mention, that "it don't add inches to your d**k."

The Departed, Frank Costello
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/departed/quotes/
06-12-2021 , 10:35 AM
Aren’t warning shots illegal af
06-12-2021 , 10:36 AM
Aren’t warning shots illegal af
06-12-2021 , 10:59 AM
I dont even know what this thread is about anymore. Is it...

1) Should you bring gun to poker table?

2) Can you bring gun to poker table?

3) Are firearms allowed in casinos.

4) Place for MHE to declare that he is heavy I guess to let you that he will pop a cap in your ass.

dunno. I think I'll go back to BBV where there are more meaningful and easy to follow threads
06-12-2021 , 11:02 AM
I dont even know what this thread is about anymore. Is it...

1) Should you bring gun to poker table?

2) Can you bring gun to poker table?

3) Are firearms allowed in casinos.

4) Place for MHE to declare that he is "heavy" I assume to let you that he will pop a cap in your ass.

dunno. I think I'll go back to BBV where there are more meaningful and easy to follow threads
06-12-2021 , 11:42 AM
Got friendly with a guy at BestBet Jax while on holiday and got invited to a private game in Savannah, GA. As a Brit all the regs there played a prank on me and as I sat down they all put their pieces on a table. Much bants. Was actually one of the nicest games I've ever played in and would love to go back. Great bunch of guys.

I'm always surprised at how few incidents seem to take place in casinos/gambling. Having played at probably 50 casinos and thousands of hours in poker rooms the US I've never really felt anything threatening but perhaps I've been lucky. The only time I've ever seen security been called was cos a young guy had a breakdown and wouldn't leave a nice quiet 80 year old man alone because he was wearing a MAGA hat lol.

Guns are common in Eastern Europe and have seen a couple in private games there. All the casinos have 'no guns' signs out front.

Also can the moron who brings up murder rates in London STFU. Knife crime is within a very specific demographic. As a white person I've walked round some of the roughest/poorest areas of London hundreds of times and had no trouble, something I could probably never do in so many cities in the US. Stop farting out whatever you've heard Ben Shapiro babble on about without actually understanding the issue.

      
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