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Carrying a firearm at the poker table Carrying a firearm at the poker table

06-15-2021 , 01:06 AM
Not legally allowed to have a gun because plants are illegal, but I'd much prefer to have one on me when playing poker. (never owned a gun in my life, fwiw) I've known too many people get robbed in the parking lot, followed home, etc, it happens. I've been in private games where the door was kicked in and guns pointed at our heads while they robbed us. I've been at casinos where someone robbed the cage, criminals don't follow laws and the majority of legal gun owners aren't causing problems, like 99%+. There is literally almost 2x guns compared to people (probably 3-4x) and gun violence is still relatively uncommon in the majority of the country. The places where it is the worst typically are the big cities that also tend to have the most strict laws. Even there the majority of the gun violence happens where the drugs are bought and sold.

People having guns, whether you know it or not, is very common. You've all played with people that have them on their person at some point or another.

Last edited by LoadingitUP; 06-15-2021 at 01:21 AM.
06-15-2021 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TPeck
Everybody is so quick to forget Stephen Paddock was a poker player on a downswing..
Guns don't kill people, tilt does.
Lol at thinking that guy did that by himself or because of a downswing, JFC.
06-15-2021 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Legal concealed carry is nothing to worry about. Criminals carrying guns or knives is a problem.
there are two kinds of people in this world: those who believe that there are two kinds of people, and those who don't.
06-15-2021 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
To be fair if Germany had the same guns laws as the US, it would be way worse than in the US. There would be murders over parking spots every week, if not every day.
to be fair you just pulled that out of your ass
06-15-2021 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by samooth
there are two kinds of people in this world: those who believe that there are two kinds of people, and those who don't.
His post doesn't truly encapsulate people into two classes, though.
06-15-2021 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick Tracy
His post doesn't truly encapsulate people into two classes, though.
ofc it does, it categorizes people into criminals and non-criminals, and treats criminality as an endowment.
06-15-2021 , 02:41 AM
i like how the first comment is from a libtard being passive aggressive and just couldn't wait to hit the straw man, cause it is kinda predictable
06-15-2021 , 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by samooth
to be fair you just pulled that out of your ass
Well, it is an estimation obviously, but I stand by it!
06-15-2021 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by yasuo
i like how the first comment is from a libtard being passive aggressive and just couldn't wait to hit the straw man, cause it is kinda predictable
Imagine if I called people conservatards, the rightoids would be so triggered.

America has some bad rates of violent crime for the developed world, but compared to the third world it’s doing great!
06-15-2021 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Imagine if I called people conservatards, the rightoids would be so triggered.

America has some bad rates of violent crime for the developed world, but compared to the third world it’s doing great!
Ummm….pretty sure the name calling and mudslinging goes both ways, champ.
06-15-2021 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by samooth
ofc it does, it categorizes people into criminals and non-criminals, and treats criminality as an endowment.
That doesn’t mean he believes there are only two groups. But even if he did suggest it, what’s the third or more group(s) that encompass people who are not criminals but not non-criminals?
06-15-2021 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Imagine if I called people conservatards, the rightoids would be so triggered.
Conservatard would be an upgrade from getting called a racist or a fascist.
06-15-2021 , 09:22 AM
I can't imagine being a poker player, at least one that puts in a decent amount of volume, and not carrying a gun. Lots of players down in Houston have been getting robbed (after a session, not during), and some have even been shot. 3bet panda got shot leaving the card room in Austin. Many years ago a player I knew was stabbed to death.

I'd definitely feel safer if certain players in my game were armed. Casino security is a complete joke and it's not reasonable to expect them to keep you (or your money) safe. That being said I do understand the apprehension about playing with someone that is armed. There are certainly some hotheads, drunks, and mentally ill players that i would hope would never be armed at the poker table.
06-15-2021 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Conservatard would be an upgrade from getting called a racist or a fascist.
Lol you realize liberals get called pedophiles (qanon) and murderers (abortion), right? I’m sorry but when you conservatives whine about this sort of thing it is entirely meaningless.

As far as the topic is concerned, I think it’s funny how people contort themselves into thinking they need a gun— presumably because someone else might have a gun.
06-15-2021 , 09:52 AM
Question for those carrying to protect themselves.

When someone points a gun at you, which option has the highest chance of you getting shot:
1) You calmly hand over your money
2) You pull out your gun

How much time do you really have to react when someone jumps you? Especially with your concealed weapon?
06-15-2021 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
Question for those carrying to protect themselves.

When someone points a gun at you, which option has the highest chance of you getting shot:
1) You calmly hand over your money
2) You pull out your gun

How much time do you really have to react when someone jumps you? Especially with your concealed weapon?
This depends. If you’re able to draw your weapon in such a way as the perp can’t see it, it might be worth it to draw and smoke him. But you’re right, if he has the jump on you, you’re probably going to just hand over the money and go from there.
06-15-2021 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Lol you realize liberals get called pedophiles (qanon) and murderers (abortion), right? I’m sorry but when you conservatives whine about this sort of thing it is entirely meaningless.

As far as the topic is concerned, I think it’s funny how people contort themselves into thinking they need a gun— presumably because someone else might have a gun.
No.... they really don't. The avg person on the left gets called a libtard, the avg person on the right gets called a racist or white supremacist, it's not even a discussion. Some people on the left get called pedophiles, mainly the ones grooming kids or supporting the grooming of kids and some of the politicians. The average left wing person isn't getting called a pedo by the right, that's not a thing. Fwiw, people that say libtard are generally idiots, as most of the left isn't even liberal and being liberal in the actual sense of the word isn't a bad thing. /end derail
06-15-2021 , 01:21 PM
I've got a CCW and leave my weapon in my vehicle when I go to my local casino (which does not permit weapons on property, and had metal detectors). When I play in private games, I've had my weapon on me maybe 1/3 of the time, but now am leaning toward leaving it in my vehicle -- I just don't see things going well if the game gets robbed or raided, and I introduce another gun to the mix.
06-15-2021 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
Question for those carrying to protect themselves.

When someone points a gun at you, which option has the highest chance of you getting shot:
1) You calmly hand over your money
2) You pull out your gun

How much time do you really have to react when someone jumps you? Especially with your concealed weapon?
A misconception antigunners have is that all legal carriers now think they are superman and looking to get into a gun fight at the drop of a hat. There is responsibility involved in carrying and one of those responsibilities is getting good training amd understanding your limits. Another responsibility is having good situational awareness.

If someone gets the drop on you with a gun in your face then you hand over your money, observe as much as you can about the situation and robber, then call the cops. It's that simple.

Average joe Ccw carriers, well trained military personnel and cops all get caught in bad situations all the time and have to just deal with getting surprised like any unarmed person. This isn't the movies.

Last edited by SoundSpeed; 06-15-2021 at 02:56 PM.
06-15-2021 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
I can't imagine being a poker player, at least one that puts in a decent amount of volume, and not carrying a gun. Lots of players down in Houston have been getting robbed (after a session, not during), and some have even been shot. 3bet panda got shot leaving the card room in Austin. Many years ago a player I knew was stabbed to death.

I'd definitely feel safer if certain players in my game were armed. Casino security is a complete joke and it's not reasonable to expect them to keep you (or your money) safe. That being said I do understand the apprehension about playing with someone that is armed. There are certainly some hotheads, drunks, and mentally ill players that i would hope would never be armed at the poker table.
Just a side note. Most states make it illegal for a legally armed concealed carrier to be armed in a setting where a business makes x % of profit from alcohol ( usually %50). It is also illegal to be armed when intoxicated.

Does it still happen? Of course. But responsible, law abiding ccwers do understand and abide by this more often than not. Of course thats imho.
06-15-2021 , 02:51 PM
As we speak, I have been playing in a Midwestern casino since 10 am armed. Haters gonna hate.
06-15-2021 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by leech
I've got a CCW and leave my weapon in my vehicle when I go to my local casino (which does not permit weapons on property, and had metal detectors). When I play in private games, I've had my weapon on me maybe 1/3 of the time, but now am leaning toward leaving it in my vehicle -- I just don't see things going well if the game gets robbed or raided, and I introduce another gun to the mix.

You don't have to introduce another gun to the mix. If they get the drop on you then so be it. Give up your money and live to go home to your family. But to me, if you have your ccw, you should use it. You never know what circumstance may pop up where you can use your weapon to defend yourself. Watch active self protection videos on youtube by john correia. Lots of examples there. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
06-15-2021 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Lol you realize liberals get called pedophiles (qanon) and murderers (abortion), right? I’m sorry but when you conservatives whine about this sort of thing it is entirely meaningless.

As far as the topic is concerned, I think it’s funny how people contort themselves into thinking they need a gun— presumably because someone else might have a gun.
I'm not a conservative. I believe in medicare for all, felons maintaining the right to vote, universal basic income, ending the death penalty, and a bunch of other progressive positions. I also believe the 2nd amendment is an essential freedom. Like free speech. While unlikely you'll ever need a gun there are countless examples of people being saved because they had a gun so it's absurd of you to suggest a gun is never needed. Wake up to reality.

Also abortion is murder. If you don't want to raise the child you can give it up for adoption but when you kill a human being in the womb it's still murder. Imagine this scenario if you don't think it's murder, a person stabs a pregnant woman who wants to keep the baby and the baby dies. Is that murder? Of course it is. Whether you want to keep the baby or not does not determine whether its murder or not. A baby's heartbeat starts a few weeks after gestation.
06-15-2021 , 03:16 PM
Felons can vote almost everywhere, no idea why people say they can't.
06-15-2021 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
Question for those carrying to protect themselves.

When someone points a gun at you, which option has the highest chance of you getting shot:
1) You calmly hand over your money
2) You pull out your gun

How much time do you really have to react when someone jumps you? Especially with your concealed weapon?
You don't draw from the drop. If someone has a gun pointed at you trying to draw your weapon will mostly result in you getting shot. But you might be able to launch a counter ambush if the robber gets distracted or draw surreptitiously. If you want to trust an armed robber won't hurt you than you are naive. Most times they don't, but sometimes they just shoot you for no reason. Those people don't think like you and I.

It's kind of like voting, it's strength in numbers. If more people carried and tried to fight back when smart there would be far fewer robberies and assaults.

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Originally Posted by LoadingitUP
Felons can vote almost everywhere, no idea why people say they can't.
I didn't realize that. I don't think voting rights should be taken away ever, even while incarcerated and I think that should be made into federal law.

      
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