It wasn't the right call but under the circumstances there wasn't anything else he could do.

Hewitt had a tight image and he could have at least tried to steal a pot or two earlier. Helmuth and Antonio even mentioned how few hands he played. It could be that Hewitt had thoughts of raising but Hienz kept opening from early position and shutting Hewitt out. So Hewitt misses early chance to steal with his tight image and keeps waiting for bubble stacks to bust, or hoping to get dealt a premium hand.

How many times do you see this were the short stacks refuse to gamble, your card dead, and the botton short stack (Giannetti) doubles up? I think Hewitt got tilted when Giannetti doubled up and he decided that folding to the final 9 wasn't in the cards for him.

Hewitt finally gets a decent hand with KQ and makes a raise only to have the short stack Bounahra go all in on him (Bounahra did a nice job of trying to disguise his KK) So can Hewitt fold here? Very long hours, short stacks that wouldn't bust, slightly tilted, dead cards, missed steal chances earlier, and a decent hand KQ that gets reraised by the player you want out.

Hellmuth and Antonio ripped him for his call but you see this situation often where you are medium stacked and decide to wait for the bubble to burst and nothing goes right.

Bad call but I doubt many players would have folded under those conditions.

I think you're going to need to post stack-sizes/blinds for anybody to be able to offer an opinion.

He called WAY too much with a substandard hand vs even a standard range, plus from most accounts, Bounhara was playing insanely tight. Terrible call, amazed he didn't spike.

Also, you may not realize that if Hewitt had a tight image, and he got reraised by someone with an even TIGHTER image, that it's an even easier fold. He had like 40bb's, that's plenty deep for late-stage tourney poker.

Snapfold. As big as the bubble factor is at that point in the tourney, you don't even want to flip. He could flip over pocket 3s and show them to you and it's still a fold.

gtfo

unspeakably terrible

never a call..ever..ever..I mean id hate to get to the table shortstack..but there is soooo much equity in just getting there id fold if he flipped over 9-10 before the action was on me..if im in his spot im never looking to call all ins unless he has a monster..im looking to shove over a couple raises every once ina while and then go bat**** crazy when i made the ft

Ban lock etc already a thread discussion on this

That's a fold in a $10 MTT if you are paying attention to the players at the table. 109 suited is a better call than the KQ there if he wanted to gamble. Add in the bubble factor and it's one of the worst calls late in the Main Event ever. Way too much on the line to make that call. He still didn't outdo Billy Kopp though.

Anyone else is 3betting him with a short stack, it's not a horrible call.

Anyone else with a big stack 3betting him, it's not a bad spot to 4bet-shove, playing off your image.

Against the only player at the table with a tighter image than you, a guy who has pretty much 3bet what, one time? Snap-fold. Heck TTand AQ are snap folds and JJ isn't exactly an easy call.

So yes, yes he can.

OH THE IRONY

I wonder if Jon checks doublejoker's posting everyday to find ways to troll him.

Also OP, yes ainec.

fyp

my first thought as well.

I think it was a terrible call, gotta be much better places to risk crippling your stack

If you'd fold kq there after being shown 910 then the last thing you need to worry about is what you'd do if you made a big final table.

He was getting ~11-8 so he needs ~42% to win. Even if we give him 99+ and AQ+ he still has under 30% equity. This doesn't take ICM into account which makes it worse since the chips you lose are worth more to you than the chips you gain.

It's much easier to do the math sitting at home behind a computer with a calculator and poker stove than after having played for 14 hours a day for 8 days or whatever. His math was off by quite a bit though. As others have mentioned, the range of 99+ (and presumably AQ+ to go along with that) Hewitt put him on is really optimistic given how tight the guy was playing. It's a fold even if he's getting 3-1, and here he's getting less than 3-2.

In answer to the thread title, no.

Travelling backwards through time would violate a fundamental rule that cause comes before effect and that such an act could allow people to make themselves impossible, such as if a person travelled back in time and shot their former self. - Stephen Hawking.

The worst part was that he earlier doubled up Gianette with the ATo. If he hadn't done that he would have had enough chips to make the call. As it was, he was to short stacked to gamble in that spot. Truth be told, he never should have even put in the first raise with KQo, he has to fold against reraise with that holding.

Looked to me like he just got tired and bad played away the chance of a lifetime.`

I read somewhere on here that he claimed he actually narrowed the range to 99-JJ, somehow eliminating the bigger pairs as hands that wouldn't 3bet shove, but rather do something else (3bet in a way that blatantly commits the stack? Flat? Who knows), so he ranged it down to 99-JJ. How he did that, I don't know, but in THAT twisted case, I guess he does have the equity.

gamble on a 60/40 with basically your whole stack....on the bubble....with a great image....really?

I realize that if Hewitt thought that if the math was right he needed to go with it.

However, weren't there some physical cues that say I have a big hand, that Badih Bounahra was sending out. I thought I recalled before the hands were flipped over that Hellmuth was saying that is was fairly obvisous that Bounahra had a monster. Wouldn't this skew the decsion making process at all?

Unfortunate for John, but I'd take a ME FT Bubble any day

Nope, even then ICM/bubble considerations would make it a fold. Not that it really matters, because his reasoning is very, very flawed. And what about AK?

Either he completely bollixed it up at the table, or he didn't think it through and is searching for after-the-fact justification.

seems like your "blowup" thread is a slightly different discussion. btw congrats on your performance at the series, and beware the vultures.

lol to win that many chips - yeah. Dont you guys have a "should you fold AA to a shove on the first hand of the ME" thread to nit up?

People who are always "looking for better spots" seem to ignore how hard such spots can be to find. This "bubble" talk is great, but you do realize how much money is available in spots 1-4 right?

The Internuts cannot be folded here...

Metagametheoretically speaking.