Can WSOP 2011 Bubble John Hewitt fold his KQ? - Page 7 - Poker News

Calling a UTG shove for 11BB's with ATo is far more reasonable if he was closing action from BB, (was he?). Otherwise could be a bit sketchy from most other positions.

I think it was close because I believe time was running out on the level and the shorty was going to eat the blinds next. FWIW Esfiandiari suggested Hewitt would probably have to call if he had AT when he was tanking.

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07-28-2011 , 07:04 AM

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perfidious

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Originally Posted by Daliman

Calling a UTG shove for 11BB's with ATo is far more reasonable if he was closing action from BB, (was he?). Otherwise could be a bit sketchy from most other positions.

Hewitt was BB when calling off with AT.

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07-28-2011 , 07:11 AM

#153

Cinarocket

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Originally Posted by perfidious

In a regular $20 MTT, with his image, my own image and the amount of my stack I'm calling off, even AQ could well be a fold.

Raise-fold that AQ yo

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07-28-2011 , 07:21 AM

#154

baudib

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Don't think it can be reiterated enough: Did you see that ridiculous Hollywood? KK was the bottom of his range.

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07-28-2011 , 09:01 AM

#155

betgo

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Hewitt's an Internet player, probably moved to Costa Rica due to BF. He just looked at the odds he was getting. Didn't consider tournament situation, his image, opponent's image, that opponent was obviously an old school player, or tells.

Also, he had been card dead and didn't want to fold a decent hand. Cold 4-bettimg Lamb or O'Dea for 15M with ATC would be a much better play.

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07-28-2011 , 01:17 PM

#156

Takedown

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Originally Posted by betgo

Cold 4-bettimg Lamb or O'Dea for 15M with ATC would be a much better play.

This.

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10-14-2011 , 07:55 AM

#157

greeno99

centurion

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Originally Posted by perfidious

Hewitt was BB when calling off with AT.

a lot has been talked about these 2 hands John played ( called the at from bb and calling off kq)

we spoke to John yesterday and he gave his thoughts on the hand ( Ace 10) as he talked through some of his ideas.

i thinks its one of those spots that if the case hits and he knocks Matt out no one even remembers the hand etc......

http://www.thepokerfarm.com/talking-...r-nine-bubble/

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10-14-2011 , 10:11 AM

#158

TheTiger213

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curious to see the WSOP on tv when it was down to under two tables and he folded what seemed to be every hand

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10-14-2011 , 10:59 AM

#159

DonkeySlayer81

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Originally Posted by betgo

This!
I couldn't stop screaming at the screen those exact words when this hand occurred.

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10-14-2011 , 01:14 PM

#160

ucantcme63

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Originally Posted by betgo

Hewitt's an Internet player, probably moved to Costa Rica due to BF. He just looked at the odds he was getting. Didn't consider tournament situation, his image, opponent's image, that opponent was obviously an old school player, or tells.

Also, he had been card dead and didn't want to fold a decent hand. Cold 4-bettimg Lamb or O'Dea for 15M with ATC would be a much better play.

c'mon now

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Originally Posted by DonkeySlayer81

This!
I couldn't stop screaming at the screen those exact words when this hand occurred.

really?

you couldn't stop screaming, "Hewitt's an Internet player, probably moved to Costa Rica due to BF. He just looked at the odds he was getting. Didn't consider tournament situation, his image, opponent's image, that opponent was obviously an old school player, or tells. Also, he had been card dead and didn't want to fold a decent hand. Cold 4-bettimg Lamb or O'Dea for 15M with ATC would be a much better play."

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10-14-2011 , 02:35 PM

#161

MCS

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Originally Posted by FishyOnADishy

In answer to the thread title, no.

Travelling backwards through time would violate a fundamental rule that cause comes before effect

Hahahaha, I see what you did there.

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10-14-2011 , 02:44 PM

#162

DonkeySlayer81

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Originally Posted by ucantcme63

c'mon now

really?

you couldn't stop screaming, "Hewitt's an Internet player, probably moved to Costa Rica due to BF. He just looked at the odds he was getting. Didn't consider tournament situation, his image, opponent's image, that opponent was obviously an old school player, or tells. Also, he had been card dead and didn't want to fold a decent hand. Cold 4-bettimg Lamb or O'Dea for 15M with ATC would be a much better play."

Yes. Yes I did

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10-14-2011 , 02:52 PM

#163

I'mAFrenchDonkey

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Never ever overplay KJ errrr KQ, if you read my pokerstrategy i tell everyone never ever overplay KJ

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11-16-2011 , 05:08 AM

#164

spooner90

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$180k pay jump at least and Nov.9 fame if this f**king idiot folded KQ like he should've. There is no explanation to calling this it's the worst call ever, and he still had 3-bet fold equity for over 20bbs if he becomes the short stack anyways. Like Tony G would say: his career is finished! He is gone, gone!

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11-16-2011 , 05:10 AM

#165

spooner90

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If anyone tries to incorporate math into making this an almost correct call then you are doomed in a live poker game

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11-16-2011 , 11:45 AM

#166

doublejoker

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Just watched this again last night. Was more atrocious than I originally thought.

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11-16-2011 , 11:52 AM

#167

kk405

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people get caught in the moment...decisions are made in haste, especially given that they have been playing for 8 days or so... hard to ever put yourself in the same emotional and physical spot and think 'what would I have done'...easy for all of us sitting here and judging any particular hand in a vacum...I remember similar situations with Cunningham, Wascika, Yang's opponents, etc....every year it's the same story (similar to KJ play by Benba)...again...impossible to put yourself in the same spot.

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11-16-2011 , 04:50 PM

#168

benasg

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he played it like a set

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11-16-2011 , 05:02 PM

#169

spring83

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at the time im like he must have AQ or JJ and wants to call but will obv fold them. then he flips KQ!! i was shocked to say the least. such an epic fail in such a big spot...

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