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D. Laurence

11-26-2008 12:38 AM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

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Originally Posted by Watchmaker (Post 7312604)

Dutch, for the record I think you're bat**** crazy, but **** this guy. **** him, don't do him any favors.

You are not at fault for "not being more proactive by not initiating contact with Steve to get Pokerfolio back to him." That would be his responsibility, not yours. You "owe" him nothing. You were kind enough to actually offer to give it back to him for a hundred bucks; this speaks hugely in your favor. I play the domain game a bit (not as much as you, but a bit); there is no way in hell I would've done that.

That he was dumb enough to let it lapse in the first place is strike one.

That he wasn't extremely proactive and accommodating in taking you up on your generous offer- instead, expecting you to keep in touch with him for the privilege of doing him a favor- is strike two.

Being insulting after the fact is just mind bogglingly ungrateful and strike three.

**edit, just read the entire thread. I see sentiments are about the same. Unbelievable, that someone would be this ungrateful in the face of a totally generous offer.

I completely echo everything in this post, and would like to further add that it is beneath contempt to ridicule someone for their mental or emotional illness. Quite a few people take medication for bi-polar depression, I don't see how it makes them less of a person than those who do not.

Before this thread I was always sort of under the impression that Dutch was a con man, going by the stories most people would post about him on this forum, but he definitely comes across as a class act in this thread. Especially after the incredibly unprofessional, one sided way this thing was presented. Steve may well be a victim, but not a victim of Dutch; a victim of his own stupidity and self destructive ego.

Self Made

11-26-2008 01:07 AM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

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Originally Posted by pagesteve (Post 7309214)

Uh uh. Did Dutch forget to take his medicine?

That's one of the most disgusting statements I've ever seen on 2+2, and that's saying a lot.

Trying to blame someone else for your screwup, not fixing your screwup given the chance, unjustifiably dragging Dutch Boyd's name through the mud, and then you make a statement like that?

Steve Hall, and everyone he's gotten to cooperate with him in this perverted campaign of his, should be ashamed of themselves.

allurit

11-26-2008 01:09 AM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Anybody faulting Dutch in any way for this doesn't understand how domains work He bought it in an expired domain auction. This had nothing to do with the hosting and it means the guy forgot to renew his domain. Dutch had to bid on this domain against others who wanted it and he won the auction. The previous owner also could have bid on it but he obviously didn't pay enough attention to his own 'livlihood' to realize his website was down for weeks or that it was about to expire prior to it going down.

So in response to this:

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Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com

Only Dutch Boyd could. He is the rightful and legal owner of this domain now. He did absolutely nothing wrong to obtain it. I'm sure he bids on tons of expiring poker domain names, he is one of the largest holders of poker domains in the world.

I would say the guy is lucky it is somebody in the poker industry who got the domain, as he might be able to pull some strings and talk to a mutual friend and get a good price for it (or even at cost as was stated). A non-poker domain investor would put a huge ransom on the domain and hold out for a very high price.

allurit

11-26-2008 01:28 AM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

I missed Dutch's reply

Quote:

A few weeks later Steve approached me at a Bellagio prelim and told me that he lost the name and I now had it. We talked very briefly, since I was playing the tournament... I told him he was pretty lucky that I was the one who ended up with it and that I'd be more than happy to sell the name back to him. I threw out a hundred dollars, which I figured was more than a reasonable offer. I spent sixty on the name and I should be able to take at least a little for my time. He kind of hesitated, and my read was that he was kind of strapped for cash... so I told him I'd be happy to take some photos or something in lieu of cash. I also told him to email the nameservers so I could point the domain over while we get it figured out.

If this is how it went down this is an awesome way of handling this situation and was a very classy move on Dutch's part. The fact that Steve didn't jump on it probably means he is a domain n00b and doesn't understand what this stuff means.

By Dutch offering to point the name servers to him this would instantly put the old website back online. Nobody would have any idea Dutch owned the domain and he would make no more money from parking it. And $100 is basically giving it back to him for free. I know lots of the domains dutch owns are worth thousands and tens of thousands of dollars.

Steve I think you should thank him and realize that you were lucky that he is the one who picked this domain up. I would have kept it or held out for a lot more money...and not have lost any sleep over it.

Clayton

11-26-2008 01:48 AM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

For a possibly-insane donkament player that was partly responsible for PokerSpot, Dutch Boyd doesn't seem that bad

Mr. Hall, u should have contacted Dutch more instead of sending your chainsaw gypsy propaganda squad. and when he offers the domain back privately for poker pictures, u dont go making a pill-popper joke about him. if I was him in that spot I would spite-sell pokerfolio to someone who didnt speak english.

i reserve the right to cancel all of these claims if dutch was found to have been drinking psychadelic cat urine throughout this ordeal.

sketchy1

11-26-2008 04:14 AM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

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Originally Posted by Clayton (Post 7313483)

i reserve the right to cancel all of these claims if dutch was found to have been drinking psychadelic cat urine throughout this ordeal.

if that were the case, dutch's original reply would have been a lot less readable. in fact, it would be completely incoherent.

kai-zhan

11-26-2008 04:15 AM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

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Originally Posted by pagesteve (Post 7309214)

Uh uh. Did Dutch forget to take his medicine?

gah, i hope he didn`t give it back to you yet, you lying cheap bastard.. give the man a bit of $$ for his troubles..

D. Laurence

11-26-2008 04:15 AM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clayton (Post 7313483)

For a possibly-insane donkament player that was partly responsible for PokerSpot, Dutch Boyd doesn't seem that bad

Mr. Hall, u should have contacted Dutch more instead of sending your chainsaw gypsy propaganda squad. and when he offers the domain back privately for poker pictures, u dont go making a pill-popper joke about him. if I was him in that spot I would spite-sell pokerfolio to someone who didnt speak english.

i reserve the right to cancel all of these claims if dutch was found to have been drinking psychadelic cat urine throughout this ordeal.

LOL, not a bad suggestion.

doublejoker

11-26-2008 07:32 AM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagesteve (Post 7309214)

Uh uh. Did Dutch forget to take his medicine?

Did this quote really came from Steve Hall directly after the offer of the domain for only a few pictures?

Dutchalicious

11-26-2008 08:47 AM

Problem solved

Here's the email I just sent to Steve. Life's too short.

Hi Steve,

I read what you posted on 2+2 and I don't really understand. I felt like when we talked on the phone yesterday, we were on the same page. I also felt like I was doing you a favor offering to give you the domain name for some photos. And when you said you were going to post something on the forum after our discussion, I was surprised that's what you chose to post.

I'm taking back my offer. I don't want photos anymore. I don't really want anything from you. I spent some time redirecting the domain to your spruz site, so when you type in pokerfolio.com it should redirect. I'm also attaching the login information for the pokerfolio.com account. It's now your's again to do with what you will. I wish you the best of luck with your website... but don't talk to me ever again.

Dutch

MinusEV

11-26-2008 09:29 AM

Re: Problem solved

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Originally Posted by Dutchalicious (Post 7316194)

I spent some time redirecting the domain to your spruz site, so when you type in pokerfolio.com it should redirect.

This is pretty amazing - I would've redirected the domain to this thread so people looking to do business with him would see how he represented himself in this thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchalicious (Post 7316194)

I'm also attaching the login information for the pokerfolio.com account. It's now your's again to do with what you will. I wish you the best of luck with your website... but don't talk to me ever again.

This is even more amazing. Steve Hall - crushed and owned ITT.

sheetsworld

11-26-2008 12:21 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

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Originally Posted by doublejoker (Post 7234815)

Many of you who play the tournament circuit know Steve Hall.

He is the English guy with the nice camera that takes photos of all the final tables at the Bellagio and is often at Caesars as well for their higher buyin events.

His living is derived from people going to his site to view pictures, and he often sells very high quality photos to players from the final table.

His site Pokerfolio.com had a listing of hundreds of photos with various categories along with a Poker gossip section.

A few months ago, he decided to switch from his hosting site to GoDaddy.com.

During the switchover, apparently Duth Boyd squatted on the name during the time that it was being moved.

Steve's livelihood and all his pictures now are relegated to another site name that is not getting nearly as many hits as before, and Dutch Boyd is receiving all the traffic from the Pokerfolio.com website.

Can the poker playing public please put some pressure on Dutch to give Steve his website and livelihood back?

Chainsaw has obv forgotten to take his medicine.

Monkey_Allen

11-26-2008 12:46 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Steve wrote a profile on Dutch not so long ago
http://www.pokerverdict.com/Poker-Pl...utch_boyd.html

He (Steve) is a nice guy and I hope for his sake this can get sorted asap

sketchy1

11-26-2008 02:31 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

i hope the rest of you hold up a nice middle finger for steve whenever he tries to snap your photo at the next poker stop he is at. who is giving this douchebag a press pass anyway? i don't understand how a dude w/ a crappy website that barely resembles a poker blog can get press credentials.

pagesteve

11-26-2008 05:08 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Thank you Dutch. You handled this matter in an intelligent manner and I

appreciate the fact that you did not stoop to the level of some of your

friends in the matter.

I hope you "hit a jackpot" soon in the poker domain business.

Steve

MinusEV

11-26-2008 06:45 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

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Originally Posted by pagesteve (Post 7321942)

Thank you Dutch. You handled this matter in an intelligent manner and I

appreciate the fact that you did not stoop to my level in the matter.

FYP.

glimmertwin

11-26-2008 06:48 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagesteve (Post 7321942)

Thank you Dutch. You handled this matter in an extremely generous manner and I

appreciate the fact that you did not stoop to my level in the matter.

FTFY.

mega	11-26-2008 06:57 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagesteve (Post 7321942)

[ ] apology
[ ] sincere
[x] douche bag

stabn

11-26-2008 07:03 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

steve,

In a battle with Dutch Boyd you somehow come off looking like the douchebag. Way to go. I didn't know that was possible.

Dutch,

Definitely don't like you from things i've heard wrt pokerspot etc., but you handled this with way more class than steve deserved.

Gin 'n Tonic

11-26-2008 07:04 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagesteve (Post 7321942)

Thank you Dutch. You handled this matter in an intelligent manner and I appreciate the fact that you did not stoop to the level of some of your friends in the matter.

I hope you "hit a jackpot" soon in the poker domain business.

Steve

Could you be any more patronising?

No apology for the 'meds' post?

I'm lost for words.

Gin 'n Tonic

11-26-2008 07:06 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

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Originally Posted by mega (Post 7323361)

[ ] apology
[ ] sincere
[x] douche bag

You summed it up so much better than me.

sketchy1

11-26-2008 07:06 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagesteve (Post 7321942)

and at least you handled all of this in a mature manner, right steve?

augie_

11-26-2008 07:31 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagesteve (Post 7321942)

you should have stopped at the medicine comment

Howard Treesong

11-26-2008 07:42 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Quote:

Originally Posted by sketchy1 (Post 7314754)

if that were the case, dutch's original reply would have been a lot less readable. in fact, it would be completely incoherent.

Whoah, there. Dutch is always eloquent, even when he is in bat****-crazy mode. So we're clear, it doesn't look as though Dutch has done anything slightly wrong in the context of this single dispute. That said, Dutch still has significant name-clearing to do because of the Pokerspot fiasco of many years ago, and anyone criticising him on a credibility front starts with a leg up in my view.

OP, the fact that this board is now largely against you is a massive testament to the idiocy of your position. Dutch starts well behind in any dispute on any forum because of his past antics.

Dutch, you're still bat**** crazy in my view but it is at times impossible not to like you. You have a huge future as a con man if you simply reach out and take it.

rakemeplz

11-26-2008 08:10 PM

Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

"You have a huge future as a con man if you simply reach out and take it."

Good advice.

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