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Can Charlie Carrel beat 500z? (Tweets about prop bet) Can Charlie Carrel beat 500z? (Tweets about prop bet)

02-16-2021 , 09:12 AM
He is streaming 500 so the bet is on? I would happily bet against him if not
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02-16-2021 , 10:18 AM
Charlie crushing 500z. The regs at 500z certainly respect his bets.
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02-16-2021 , 10:50 AM
I'm not sure if the bet is actually on but he won this afternoon.

I don't think he's such a dog in this pool.
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02-16-2021 , 10:57 AM
The bet is not yet on. I think this was just a warm up session. But he alluded in today's stream that the sample size for this prob bet is 25k hands. I might be wrong, but if this is true, I think 25k hands for 6max is not a representative sample.
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02-16-2021 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by georgelboss
I might be wrong, but if this is true, I think 25k hands for 6max is not a representative sample.
I think that's between Carrel and the person making the bet. Don't think they could care less what others think. Chat was pretty hilarious from time to time. I mean it's allways the most toxic place in the internets but the comments about sunruns etc were pretty funny. Must be painfull to see him actually being pretty comfortable and playong well. Most likely they were the 2+2 nvg posse.
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02-16-2021 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by georgelboss
The bet is not yet on. I think this was just a warm up session. But he alluded in today's stream that the sample size for this prob bet is 25k hands. I might be wrong, but if this is true, I think 25k hands for 6max is not a representative sample.
Obviously 25k hands isn't even close to enough... you need at least 1mm hands sample at 500z to even be considered imo (and even in 1mm hand samples you'll see serious deviation between two players both winning at 2bb-5bb/100).

The point is that an expected winning player has a higher chance of winning over 25k hands than an expected losing player so one of the people has the "better side" of the bet, even though it's a super high variance bet.

FWIW I like Charlie's side if he's allowed to pool select whenever he wants. If I wasn't going to be playing during that time I would book action on it!
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02-16-2021 , 01:51 PM
2p2 is funny

“Charlie cant beat 500z, no way”

Charlie wins one session
“Wow if Charlie game selects well, he can easily win this bet”
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02-16-2021 , 02:01 PM
MMA on stream today said after he reviewed charlie on stream he got a long message from him about it and charlie said it was what prompted the bet; MMA said he replied offering a bet but has not heard back (yet)
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02-16-2021 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe-exotic69
2p2 is funny

“Charlie cant beat 500z, no way”

Charlie wins one session
“Wow if Charlie game selects well, he can easily win this bet”
Tbh i've thought all along he has a chance (and commented here earlier). I've watched him play 100z recently + he's obviously a successful player. He may not be as big a dog in this as some people make him out to be in my opinion.
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02-16-2021 , 02:28 PM
From my understanding Charlie currently has a balance of 100k+ on Stars all from a 5 euro deposit at the start of the pandemic mostly from zoom? Is he shooting fish in a barrel here what am I missing?
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02-16-2021 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Z06Fanatic1
Charlie seems very insecure - maybe seek a therapist if you think or care what others are saying about you. It's funny George replies with an actual bet and Charlie is whining away avoiding responding
Na He always had like 100k+ Balance. He just never withdraw I guess
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02-16-2021 , 02:46 PM
25k hands is not representative of any meaningful sample.

100k hands or even more would be a better representation.

Playing 100k hands over a select period of time would be for much more meaningful. Anyone betting over a 25k hand sample are just throwing there dongers/egos about
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02-16-2021 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarretman
Obviously 25k hands isn't even close to enough... you need at least 1mm hands sample at 500z to even be considered imo (and even in 1mm hand samples you'll see serious deviation between two players both winning at 2bb-5bb/100).

The point is that an expected winning player has a higher chance of winning over 25k hands than an expected losing player so one of the people has the "better side" of the bet, even though it's a super high variance bet.

FWIW I like Charlie's side if he's allowed to pool select whenever he wants. If I wasn't going to be playing during that time I would book action on it!
25k hands with no timeframe is no test on mental stamina imo which is a huge part of being a winner online
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02-16-2021 , 03:02 PM
wouldnt bet against him here, he will either beat it or find a way to cheat
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02-16-2021 , 03:17 PM
Charlie Caramel just raidquit after losing a stack. This will be a long lasting challenge without a timelimit..
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02-16-2021 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jayme87
25k hands with no timeframe is no test on mental stamina imo which is a huge part of being a winner online
well duh this bet really isnt a true indication if he's a winning 500z player... he has the better side of the bet imo with no timeframe, can play 1 table, and can pool select.
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02-16-2021 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe-exotic69
2p2 is funny

“Charlie cant beat 500z, no way”

Charlie wins one session
“Wow if Charlie game selects well, he can easily win this bet”
Not as funny as people who think one or two posters = 2p2. Amazing though you may find it, this forum isn't a hive mind.

And that's ignoring the fact that there was nothing remotely close to a consensus either way before he played. Appears to be a majority against him winning, but not even close to it being "2p2".
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02-16-2021 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dont3betme
He is streaming 500 so the bet is on? I would happily bet against him if not
Do you know what his twitch name is and what time he streams?
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02-17-2021 , 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MultiTabling
Do you know what his twitch name is and what time he streams?
Epiphany77

Don't think he has a schedule as such but he's UK based. Sometimes he pops up around midday (UK time) or he will be on in afternoons / evenings. It's a bit sporadic.
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02-17-2021 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MultiTabling
Do you know what his twitch name is and what time he streams?
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Originally Posted by Masq
Epiphany77

Don't think he has a schedule as such but he's UK based. Sometimes he pops up around midday (UK time) or he will be on in afternoons / evenings. It's a bit sporadic.
Online now
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02-17-2021 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BRm34eva
Online now
Yep...time for more singing and crushing.
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02-17-2021 , 01:07 PM
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $25/$50 - 5 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit

2000kg (UTG): $5,000.00 (100 bb)
oSpiel888 (CO): $5,190.60 (104 bb)
zazano (BU): $7,030.47 (141 bb)
Epiphany77 (SB): $5,100.00 (102 bb)
avr0ra (BB): $8,175.36 (164 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($75)
2 players fold, zazano (BU) raises to $125, Epiphany77 (SB) 3-bets to $550, 1 fold, zazano (BU) calls $425

Flop: ($1,150) K 5 6 (2 players)
Epiphany77 (SB) bets $263.81, zazano (BU) raises to $725, Epiphany77 (SB) calls $461.19

Turn: ($2,600) A (2 players)
Epiphany77 (SB) checks, zazano (BU) checks

River: ($2,600) 8 (2 players)
Epiphany77 (SB) bets $3,817.59, zazano (BU) calls $3,817.59

Total pot: $10,235.18 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
Epiphany77 (SB) shows J T (a flush, Ace high)
zazano (BU) mucks
Epiphany77 (SB) wins $10,232.18


zaza KxQd
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02-17-2021 , 01:15 PM
Looks to be playing 2 x 500z + 1 x 5knl
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02-17-2021 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by charlesy
Might be a bit extreme for someone with $9.5m in live cashes and many millions online.
Everyone's so dillusionnal in this community. They let the hate speak for themselves.
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02-17-2021 , 01:33 PM
really enjoyed the stream today though it was a little short..
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