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Can Charlie Carrel beat 500z? (Tweets about prop bet) Can Charlie Carrel beat 500z? (Tweets about prop bet)

02-07-2021 , 01:25 PM
Tuned into charlies stream yesterday and he was discussing how 50k hands 2 tabling zoom would take way too long and its too many hands since he doesn't have enough time to spend on poker and how 25-30k seemed more realistic.


Didn't watch long enough but maybe hes just going to do this 'challenge' on his own with no prop bet if anything was ever going to happen

Last edited by TreadLightly; 02-07-2021 at 01:39 PM.
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02-07-2021 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DownandUnder
Charlie is tired of people talking trash about his poker ability so says he can beat a game that these same people have always claimed is extraordinary tough.
He puts his money where his mouth is and is willing to bet 6 figures.
The same people now claim the game is easy and anybody can beat it, therefore he has to achieve a certain winrate for them to bet.
Somehow 2+2 twist this into Charlie looking bad.
I seem to remember something similar to this happening recently. How did that turn out?
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02-07-2021 , 02:21 PM
Assuming escrow/clear terms and 100k hands min I'd bet a decent size against. Seems like he'd get 200k in action very easily if serious.
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02-07-2021 , 07:09 PM
How is anything significantly under 100k hands played anything other than a variance fest? I feel like 100k hands should be the min for a bet like this.
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02-07-2021 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Esa_Perse
Hard to say but if this ever happens it's like christmas for 2+2 posse who hates him. He is making Jnandez look like the nicest person ever lived.
is jnandez not nice, wheres the background on this
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02-07-2021 , 09:49 PM
what about if charlie pays someone to bet/fold river as a bluff in a 400bb pot? literally freewin kinda
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02-07-2021 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Yes, it would be so humiliating not to know Carrel's story; perhaps he can request his post be deleted
Looks like he changed the post, must be nice to be a mod and have the option to change it when you make an embarrassing comment....













Monkeys always look!
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02-08-2021 , 08:37 AM
500z pool is tougher than you guys think. And also pretty unique and small.

Hard to get a lot of hands in. Right now only 10 people play, 4 entries each, all decent regulars

I would bet 100k (1:1) against you, Charlie

terms:
1.) +1bb/100 winner after 50k hands
2.) trustworthy escrow / money upfront
3.) 4 tabling, minimum 4 hours on a playing day with one break allowed
4.) streaming with two webcams (screen & monitor), non streamed hands are not counting
5.) time frame max. 90 days

Hit me up if you are interested
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02-08-2021 , 09:21 AM
damn, we got action!
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02-08-2021 , 09:32 AM
This seems odd.I thought he played a lot of $2k buy-in cash games on his streams, yet this is supposed to be a challenge?
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02-08-2021 , 02:04 PM
https://clips.twitch.tv/CrispyRealPresidentPlanking


He claims someone pmed him who is serious about betting 200k

He also said if he does it he won't stream anything because he doesn't want regs to see how he is playing

Last edited by TreadLightly; 02-08-2021 at 02:13 PM.
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02-08-2021 , 02:14 PM
Not gonna happen, guy is just seeking for attention. Will def back down, no chance of this happening.
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02-08-2021 , 02:16 PM
It’s all that noisy right-clicking Game Theory optimal?
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02-08-2021 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
I would bet at least 5k against 2bb/100 over 100k hands if there was a reputable escrow
This. Though for 2-3k. Escrow would need to be in place, 100% (I can this taking years if it ever gets started).

I'd probably also do it for 1.5bb/100. The WR needs to be EV bb/100 also.
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02-08-2021 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Halo_P1
He was legitimately offering a 100k+ bet for Charlie, which Charlie responded with mostly deflection and whining about toxicity rather than addressing him directly. I’m not certain he even wanted to the bet more the clout to be able to say he got no offers and that everyone is full of it.

Turns out he is getting offers, MMAsherdog is compiling terms for him too. For a guy with a very fragile ego this must be quite a frustrating situation.
And also this. Feels like attention seeking.

- Dude asks for a bet to beat 500z
- Gets offered legitimate bets
- Deflects and says community is toxic

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02-08-2021 , 02:50 PM
If 500z is so hard, why are the regs in that game wasting their time when there are so many other options out there?
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02-08-2021 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by OhManWhatNext
If 500z is so hard, why are the regs in that game wasting their time when there are so many other options out there?
Can’t you say that about any game that runs regularly . I just assume that it’s a few folks passing money around and an occasional fish
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02-08-2021 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SandraXII
Can’t you say that about any game that runs regularly . I just assume that it’s a few folks passing money around and an occasional fish
I was getting the impression from this thread that it was much harder than 500nl elsewhere online, which is pretty good IMO
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02-08-2021 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TreadLightly
It seems he is trying to coinflip his way to winning this? wanting only a 50k hand sample cause he 'only plays poker part time' (while wanting a prop bet on him beating the game and being confident lol)

Also he is very narrowed in on how toxic he thinks the community is
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02-08-2021 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by OhManWhatNext
If 500z is so hard, why are the regs in that game wasting their time when there are so many other options out there?
Better options may not always be present, so there may be no place to play that is profitable at all times. I would assume that many people are like GingePoker in that they play higher live or elsewhere when games run, but it is a great place to stay sharp as the game is always available. If you are a high stakes reg you can play a few hours a week to stay sharp and have thousands of hands and scenarios to run and review. With rakeback, even if you are a small loser, you can plug your leaks against some of the better NL players in the world for very little cost, which will then allow you to crush in the bigger games you may play.

If you are a 3 bb loser, it costs you $3K to play 20k hands. Get some rakeback and you are at a lesser amount. If that causes your winrate to go up when playing hundreds of hours at 10/20 or higher then it is a worthy investment.
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02-08-2021 , 07:51 PM
I could definitely see some higher stakes guys joining the pool to **** with Charlie if this bet were to actually take place. Not sure how to get around that.
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02-08-2021 , 08:08 PM
There would probably be something in the rules where he doesn't have to play in the pool against non regs if he doesn't want to.
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02-08-2021 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tmanto
I could definitely see some higher stakes guys joining the pool to **** with Charlie if this bet were to actually take place. Not sure how to get around that.

Friends chipdumping obv..
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02-08-2021 , 09:44 PM
This wont happen, Charlie boy just wanted some attention, lonely times during covid
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02-09-2021 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by snowie963
are you still allowed to edit your post? Everyone knows who Charlie Carrel is. I don't believe you haven't heard of his story.
I have not heard of his story.

I probably shouldn't have been as confident about joining the prop bet with the limited knowledge I have though. It was late on a Friday night.


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Originally Posted by snowie963
Looks like he changed the post, must be nice to be a mod and have the option to change it when you make an embarrassing comment....
I didn't change my post. And I do not have the ability to. In this forum I can only edit one of my posts within 30 minutes after having initially made it.

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