He is a savant in a number of areas, poker is just one of them.

When someone is a savant you should never be dismissive of them, even if there are some areas in which you disagree with them, because they will often work out things, in poker, and in life itself, that you yourself will either never work out, or will work out, but much, much later than him.

I am not saying he is perfect, he is not and nobody is, but his brain and his being understands some things that 99.999% of the rest of the population doesn't.
I would never underestimate his poker skills either, because you are dealing with someone who has an aptitude that one can't measure in the normal way.

Just take a scroll through his feed and will probably come across a few. I'm not saying he backed out of booked challenges, but his routine is to announce a challenge, and never settle on the details or just flat out change the parameters of the bet. Pretty much identical to the one from last few days where he went from saying he would beat it at 30bb, to 15bb, offering 5:1 originally to now 1:1. Here is a screenshot of the usual type announcement:

Well he can't work out PLO, he isn't good at everything, that is how a savant's brain works, they are often terrible at certain things.
Their brilliant at / terrible at graph has a lot of steep peaks and troughs on it.

Your average bod in the population has a pretty flat graph, with a small number of shallow peaks and troughs on it.

Although I'm a big fan of his, as the previous post demonstrates, he has a history of backing out of these challenges. I think he needs to follow through with this one
and not chop and change the parameters, otherwise he will lose credibility.

You think there'll be a meltdown if he achieves it? Give us peace. It'll raise a few eyebrows and nothing more.

Disagree. 2+2 is that hysterical.

The world doesn't revolve around Charlie Carrel, Nik Airball or Garret Adelstein. People will post a few times expressing surprise and then move on with their lives.

Think I heard him say he has 13k hands already at 13 Biebers so he'd likely include that in the challenge.
You'd have to squeeze that 200 pool dry to eek out 5bb post rake and pre rake back imo

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It's post rake and post rake back, as I understand it.

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Next year he will come up with another challenge... Probably at NL100.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLwG...hannel=KakiTee

Toxicity seems to follow Charlie everywhere he goes, really unlucky guy

Love to see it

Meh, Charlie's tweet is pretty much right.

People are bitter and they hate you and get jealous, if you have any kind of success, that they weren't able to achieve themselves.

People love the drunken fool at the bar.

They instantly despise the successful, businessman in the suit.

Yeah, that's why people don't like him

he seems alright, i dont really know anything about him and had never even heard of him until i stumbled upon this post and did a little research myself.

i guess hes buddies with jungle so he cant be too bad. dont give him too much ****, hes a new father or somethign it seems, got a mf ninja stressed out i guarantee it.

Weak player but good showman. As Uri Peleg said CC is an achiever, (easy to outplay by average NL50 reg), but what he is doing good is exploiting recs and attracting wanna be poker pros to buy his products. He is probably solid winner on 0.1/0.25 (NL25)

Don't disrespect this poker genius who can outplay a GTO nerd if he has the nuts and a redraw!

Thoughts, gentlemen?

Something that everyone attacking him has missed, and I admit I even missed myself until now, although I haven't been attacking him I have been supporting him or saying to people
to view him a special talent that isn't conventional but is still worth listening to and learning from, is that that his Poker Masterclass course is a course specifically aimed at learning how to
beat 2NL through to 25 NL. So for micro through to small stakes,

From: https://charliecarrel.com/poker-masterclass/

"Charlie Carrel’s Poker Masterclass
My premium poker tutorial is a micro-stakes masterclass, moving through 2NL, 5NL, 10NL and 25NL."

Then in the text explaining what the course aims to achieve it says:

"My aim is to show people how to think about poker. There is so much mess in people’s thought processes, from watching so much messy teaching content. My aim is to streamline people’s thought processes, to allow them the mental clarity to dissect any situation that you will come across. In other words, I'm not teaching you *what* to think, I’m teaching you *how* to think. Teach a man to fish."

So he isn't necessarily teaching how to play, he is giving examples of how to play various hands, yes, he is teaching people how to think so that they can work out how to play and win.

So he is being very open that this is not a conventional poker training course, it is teaching some outside of the box ways of thinking and it's helping people to work out for themselves how to think logically and how to use their own brain effectively.

It is therefore not wholly relevant whether he can beat 200z or 500z himself over a decent sample size, because that is not what he is teaching them, he is giving them a training course on how to think about poker. Fwiw, I have followed his career and watched a lot of his content and his main strengths IMO are live reads, player profiling opponents, putting opponents on tight ranges and quite often narrowing their holdings down to one of two specific hands, and his absolute best strength is knowing when and how to apply max pressure on opponents, with the bigger the cash game or the bigger tournament the buy in, the more fearless and the more dangerous he is at doing this.

So the above is why he has a very good record in big buy in tournaments, live and online and why he can often do well in big buy in cash games.

The mid stakes online cash games aren't really his wheelhouse because there are no live reads obviously, and the stakes aren't high enough to apply monetary fear pressure to opponents.

His other skills of putting opponents on hands and player tendency profiling are very useful at mid stakes online cash but less effective if up against a lot of regs who are playing balanced.
I would still make him a slight favourite at 200z and 500z online because his fundamentals are good, if not perfect in those games, and because he has a very good mental game and focus,
but where he really crushes is in the other types of games and tournaments that I described.

He has therefore made a tactical error IMO by trying to defend his position, creditability and honour by making challenges in games that aren't his forte,

He would be better off and be more certain of winning the challenge if he emphasised that he is teaching players how to think about poker in his courses, emphasised the fantastic results that he has had, and challenged some players in a live full ring high stakes cash game or maybe high stakes heads up live cash, or some kind of group of live MTTs challenge.

He is trying to prove himself using the wrong game type to do so with.

Counterpoint: i don't follow him day in day out but his most recent HS game is on coinpoker with Jungleman and TonyG, right? Not exactly a lot of monetary fear pressure going around there.

That's not true.

Firstly Jungleman is going to feel some monetary pressure in a 100K or 200K pot, he is not a mega rich businessman.

Secondly, even someone like Tony G who is a mega rich businessman, still recognises that 100K or 200K is a lot of money, even if it's a fraction of his net worth,
so can still be pressurised into folding.

Players, however wealthy they are, still have some sense of the value of the money they are playing for, when the amounts start getting to the equivalent of the cost of a house.

That he ran hot for 18k hands and then the regs figured him out. Lmao at him cherry picking a 30k hand sample trying to shill his course

if you have 15bb/100 at sample of 30k hands, its super unlikely you are not a winner.