Apple Final Cut Pro. Thanks for the compliments.

Great film. I bookmarked the thread when it was first posted and im very glad i eventually got around to watching it.

My biggest wtf moment seeing it was the bit with daliman. Dude looks absolutely nothing like i expected, lol.

Damn this **** is so depressing

Word. I think it's where he's from. Makes me never want to leave the city.

Story is not depressing at all IMO, its a real life story, its not an Adam Sandler movie

You on the other hand, are depressing

I thought it was an excellent documentary, very well made and zeebo and his gf seem like very nice people.
However, i would like to see documentaries about zero to hero poker players who are living the balla lifestyle. My favourite high stakes living episode is Andrew Robl (good2cu) and i think people like him who like buying cool stuff, are not shy in front of a camera and live the party lifestyle are the way to go if you want to make a successful full length feature film. Plus, people like him will portray poker in a more positive light imo to an audience outside of poker. Zeebo seems a nice guy but as a few people have said, some stuff in that film will look bad on poker to a wider audience.

Also, i would really love to see a doc about top players cars. This probably wouldn't reach a mainstream audience admittedly but for people really into their cars like me it would be sick!

Lol, nice to see a documentary about Napoleon Dynamite's poker career.

Really good production quality in that film, and great story too - I can't wait for the next one!

Zeebo seems hilarious and awesome. And daliman's horrible posting makes more sense now

haha, my brother and his friends did this back in the day, except with only two tvs, two teams of two, and the paper covered half of the tv. some true no-radar games.

zeebo, i remember a looong time ago you posted a picture of "yourself", and it was some whigga lookin kid who bought a new snowboard. anyways, that's what i thought you really looked like til i saw this documentary today. lol

Meh, i consider it pretty damn upbeat. Dude is living the life he wants right now and has a long term plan for the rest of his life and how to spend his million+. Meanwhile he has an incredibly supportive fiance, loads of friends and has everything he could want in life (i would assume).

I guess for some people it could be depressing, but meh, its real life where some people suffer bipolar disorder and not everyone is ballering it up with rappers on boats with a bunch of skanky models only interested in them for their money.

Which ironically is what most people want to see when they want further eps on people with a more "baller lifestyle".

If i were funding this id be super happy because what id want is to see what these dudes are actually doing - this isnt about "putting poker in a positive light" to random guys on the street imo.

In fact i personally think this puts poker in a positive life because here is a guy who has made millions from poker and hasnt wasted it on random **** like Samurai swords and random gambling pictures - but maybe thats because i relate more to Zeebo than g2cu.

Edit, actually Samurai swords are pretty cool imo. What film was it where some dude slept with a woman and they used a Samurai sword during foreplay where they cut a scarf by letting it fall on the blade as she held it to his chest. I vaguely remember that the movie sucked whatever it was, but the scene was cool.

cross-posting this from the HSNL thread because i didn't get any feedback/reply there - not that Ryan/KRANTZ have to.

think it was a really good episode/film.

However, we didn't really see him go from busto to robusto. i.e starting while working at McDonalds and discovering $5 sngs and movign up in stakes. why? - well it would have been pretty much impossible to have started filming him back in 2003 until now etc.

so i'm not sure how you could fix that. maybe get him to explain more about his job at McDonalds/$5 sngs and how his daily life changed? it definitely needed to tell more about this segment of his life. without the bitter... the sweet isn't as sweet. without seeing him as a busto we can't truly appreciate robusto.

basically, you covered it by starting at the present and then going back in time. which was and is great.... but not optimal imo.

one way would be to start filming about 10 small stakes players for a few years but obv that is way more hard work/difficult to do. like a longitudinal academic study?

also... while the bi-polar/breakdown segment may create negative impressions of poker players for some ignorant people, i think this episode was way better than say... an episode about some 22 yr old with a Ferrari who pours cristal on strippers and goes shopping for $10k watches every day.

basically, this isn't and shouldn't be 'The Fabulous Life Of..' - you can watch that bling stuff on MTV/VH1. richer/flashier isn't always better to watch as a documentary.

future suggestions - be more linear/focus on the early stages of poker life. it would be really interesting to see an episode on someone who has a wife/kids + balances it.

one more thing - are you selling these documentaries to tv channels? how are you recouping your production costs? is your aim high viewing figures or critical acclaim?

sorry this is so long but here seems like the place to give feedback etc. v good tho

May I ask what you are talking about? Link?

Production quality A plus.

The content was amazing, because it contained truth. At least his. You are very wise to find a gf to balance you and love you unconditionally.

Your a genius for remaining modest in your lifestyle, and I thank you for sharing your story sir.

Those that hate on this or call it depressing are those that can't stand a good look in the mirror.

Thanks you 918, and Zeebo.

Well played

Very good stuff. Thanks to all involved.

While it would have been/would be ideal to follow a few pros over the course of a few years, it's not exactly feasible given our budget and other factors. Our current approach is choosing a few pre-existing stories/characters in the online poker world so we have more of an idea of what we're going to capture and present in the finished product.

There has been some talk about whether or not we should choose a "balla" character for future episodes. I believe these characters can be every bit as "deep", relevant and interesting as we all agree Zeebo is. They may "pour Cristal on strippers and buy $10K watches" but they are still human after all, and I for one think it would be very interesting to explore their psychology. But we would take a different approach than the MTV/VH1 stuff to which you're referring. It would be more about who they are and how poker has affected their lives, than the fancy stuff they buy. Furthermore, the "balla" lifestyle is a big part of the online poker world, so to ignore that aspect wouldn't be fair to the bigger picture. Translation: Ballas coming soon.

Our end goal is a feature length documentary about online poker that we will sell to traditional distributors (and recoup our costs). What you're seeing now is a sort of preview. You guys are acting as a kind of test audience whose feedback will aid us in planning of our next step, and so far things are looking very positive (thanks!). There will be more episodes, we just can't say when, what or who at this point.

I don't really understand how people can see this as depressing? I'm not saying that I would live a similar life if I had 2M, but for zeebo that seemed to be just what he wants. He's got enough money for rest of his life and things seems to be good in his life. What else would you want?

I think zeebo's story is far more interesting than for example some "From busto douche to robusto douche with Andrew Robl: Balling out of control" bull**** showing some dude in his 20s "balling" with his poker moneys. No offence to Robl, I don't know him personally...

I'm not saying that "highstakes baller" episode couldn't be interesting too, tho. If it doesn't focus too much on the baller lifestyle (MTV!), it could actually be interesting.

If richer/flashier isn't better, then why don't mtv rename their cribs show and call it mtv bums, and get a bunch of random degenerate poor people to give them a guided tour of their run-down rented houses? Maybe because nobody would watch it and go wow, i want to live like that, I'm gonna watch that show next week!

I think in a society where people are encouraged to have aspirations to do well, documenting the more 'down to earth' online pokerplayer wouldn't sell as well or promote poker as well as 'the balla' imo. Poker is about money and people interested in the top players want to kinow how much they've won and what they've spent it on and thats it.

sick documentary, but is there more to it

How so?

Well maybe you're only interested in knowing how they spend their money and how much they have, but judging from the overwhelming positive feedback in this thread, that's not the case for everyone else.

The documentary was definitely more of a character study than the flashing of a lifestyle. In the future if they pick someone like Robl or David Williams, I'd only be interested if it's done in the same vein. I don't care about what these people spend their money on, the thought of Robl spluttering his way through his house as he shows off his plasma screen tv, doesn't interest me at all, (and imo it'd be far more off putting than this zeebo doc), but seeing the person behind all the flash and balla, understanding how he came to poker and how he rose to the top, that could be interesting if done right.

...is a dead-ringer for:



IMO

Very nice, the best part for me was learning a bit more about 2incher.

when's the next video coming out? anyone know?

my favorite part was the phil galfond interview.