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Bryn Kenney: Ghosting, Collusion, Scamming, Warlord Shamans and Frog Poison Bryn Kenney: Ghosting, Collusion, Scamming, Warlord Shamans and Frog Poison

04-22-2022 , 10:06 AM
I mean there’s multiple sources that confirm he has done shady stuff regarding ghosting, multi accounting, Lauren situation, RTA etc. there’s only one person who’s claiming frog poison stories. They’re entertaining but probably an exaggeration at best. The chances he hasn’t done some ethically wrong things/cheated is very low though.
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04-22-2022 , 10:08 AM
We've been doing this for nearly a decade a now.

Something being pre-computed does not make it a chart. If your "chart" is the size of thousands of telephone books then its not a chart.
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04-22-2022 , 10:10 AM
I thought I smoked a lot of weed but this dude couldn't go 5 min without hitting the vape pen. I was convinced it was a nicotine vape because of how often he hit it but then towards the end he says "I am high as **** right now" when failing to remember a detail.

Was an interesting story hour but the evidence of cheating was not provided, particularly evidence of Kenny cheating in games. The entire online MTT staking/stable business seems sketchy though, and GG poker seems kinda sketch as well with their agent program.

Then there is the cult leader stuff which is weird and scary, but people are making decisions to associate with him on their own. That has nothing to do with the cheating allegations.
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04-22-2022 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by GreatBigRedOne
The credibility of the witness is relevant. Since he provided no verifiable evidence of wrongdoing it is possible he is just a scumbag pissed off he lost his stake, that he is verifiably out of his mind and unstable due to drug use also affects the credibility of his accusations. Instead of defending the indefensible why not focus on the verifiable evidence of wrongdoing he presented? I didn't see anything other than Bryn is weird that could be verified in the podcast, the rest was the speculation and unhinged rantings of a verified scumbag.
During the interview Doug interjected to say that several sources have confirmed to him some of the salient points of the accusations and Doug said they were sources he trusts. Admittedly that's not proof but it does appear to be corroboration.
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04-22-2022 , 10:39 AM
Love to see Sergei just straight up admit to cheating
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04-22-2022 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JERRYJ0NES
Im not sure where this notion comes from that if you do something wrong in the past you cant bring attention to wrongs in the present. The FBIs best informants are other criminals.
It should be pretty obvious to you that most of the people bringing up his past merely use this as another factor to demonstrate he may well be an unreliable witness. If he'd backed up his claims, no one would be interested in what he did eight or nine years ago. But the combination of 1) not providing any concrete evidence after making pretty ****ing wild accusations 2) being as high as a kite and incoherent as a result during the podcast, 3) clearly showing he's big into the use of psychedelic substances that can lead to brief episodes where his reality is distorted, and 4) being a shady individual himself that's been arrested for arguably worse offenses than he's accusing BK of, doesn't make him the most reliable witness, does it? The shady individual thing is just part of the entire package.

I don't even like BK and I wouldn't be surprised if he's guilty of most of the stuff he's being outed for. But all we have currently is just some weirdo with a dubious reputation and possibly a substance abuse problem yapping about all kinds of crazy **** he hasn't backed up yet by any evidence.
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04-22-2022 , 11:18 AM
Bingo. And by putting him on his podcast, tbh Doug has entered a super grey area regarding slander/libel. Dude needs to give receipts or shut up.

Kind of surprised Doug went for the interview without doing a bit more research.




And all of this is sad, because if one of the horses just admitted "hey we basically scammed Lauren out of 2 million" it'd be extremely verifiable and Bryn would likely disappear from the limelight. Instead, we have accusations that TBH I really doubt (lifestyle, not the cheating) just because the dude is clearly schitzo.
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04-22-2022 , 11:23 AM
I thought Doug actually did a good job of asking questions, letting him tell his story, and asking for proof or hard evidence. The GG RNG being rigged claim was quickly dismissed by Doug when the "I have a strong intuition" answer was given when Doug asked about HH proof to back up his claim.

I don't think Doug could have done an interview like that any better. Jesus, he even wore a blazer!
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04-22-2022 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nutflopper
I thought Doug actually did a good job of asking questions, letting him tell his story, and asking for proof or hard evidence. The GG RNG being rigged claim was quickly dismissed by Doug when the "I have a strong intuition" answer was given when Doug asked about HH proof to back up his claim.

I don't think Doug could have done an interview like that any better. Jesus, he even wore a blazer!
How he managed to keep it together when he told the story about the ostrich which seemed to go completely over Martin's head and he said Bryn wouldn't care about a blue ostrich leaving the Aria.
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04-22-2022 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackJackDegen
How he managed to keep it together when he told the story about the ostrich which seemed to go completely over Martin's head and he said Bryn wouldn't care about a blue ostrich leaving the Aria.
Another thing Doug did well, was let Martin ramble on with his insane stories and claims, then try to articulate better what Martin was saying so the viewer could better follow. Martin really was all over the place with his stories. I used to do that when my kids were like 2 or 3, because I knew what they were saying, but others would have a hard time following.

Kudos to Doug for keeping that interview half assed on the rails.
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04-22-2022 , 12:19 PM
Lmao @" i hope this is slander is some way"

The only thing surprising about any of this scandal is the cult like shaman type stuff. A bunch of people playing the same money colluding high stakes tournaments isn't remotely surprising.
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04-22-2022 , 12:35 PM
https://youtu.be/LM0vRMkvSgQ?t=81

In that pokernews interview when they ask Bryn if he plays gto or not and he replies "gangster-style" .. I thought he referred to street poker, but apparently, he referred to illegal poker with RTA & Collusion , what a tricker
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04-22-2022 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by smashed you bro
The game is about exploding people....
You must have played in the famous Timothy McVeigh home games of the early 1990s
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04-22-2022 , 02:14 PM
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Is there a rule that one scumbag can't call out another one?
Thats how a lot of cases get to court!

Its laughable to assume that a person in a shady outfit is somehow super honest and clean.

A lot of what Martin is saying makes sense and has been corroborated by people like Berkey who said on his podcast he knew about this over a year ago.
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04-22-2022 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerEthics
It seems like a reoccurring theme on this site (and the internet) is to have someone be accused of something and instead of ever defending themselves they and their supporters turn it into ad hominem attacks on the accuser.

Idk what happened but it would be nice if the people defending would explain and address the issues instead of just attacking and gaslighting the accusers.
I think you already know the answer to this! Its a well known political tactic to kill the messenger if you don't like the message.
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04-22-2022 , 02:39 PM
The whole story would make a great book. The part I am the most curious about is the shaman stuff. I want to know what happen in Hawai, bad!
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04-22-2022 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamer
Thats how a lot of cases get to court!

Its laughable to assume that a person in a shady outfit is somehow super honest and clean.

A lot of what Martin is saying makes sense and has been corroborated by people like Berkey who said on his podcast he knew about this over a year ago.
To be fair Berkey only said he knew it from Martin's drunken rambling...
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04-22-2022 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamer
I think you already know the answer to this! Its a well known political tactic to kill the messenger if you don't like the message.

Could there be a worse messenger though? Random no one that I would have trouble believing could beat the Hot 4.40 on Stars by watching that interview, playing 10ks on the regular somehow. And the Craigslist armed robbery scams are quite sociopathic. Did I mention the ramblings of a deranged lunatic who is a clear drug addict.

Saying all that, everything he says may be true, but I sure wish he wasn't the guy to say it.
Clearly a busto scumbag if I've ever seen one.
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04-22-2022 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nutflopper
Could there be a worse messenger though? Random no one that I would have trouble believing could beat the Hot 4.40 on Stars by watching that interview, playing 10ks on the regular somehow. And the Craigslist armed robbery scams are quite sociopathic. Did I mention the ramblings of a deranged lunatic who is a clear drug addict.

Saying all that, everything he says may be true, but I sure wish he wasn't the guy to say it.
Clearly a busto scumbag if I've ever seen one.
Again it would be super easy to refute some of the things he has said if he was lying.

Him being a scumbag and telling the truth are not mutually exclusive.

I would focus on the accusations rather than the accuser.

Again, not sure what you guys want. I'm sure Mother Teresa is not part of any botting/RTA/ghosting ring.

But I would bet a dollar to doughnuts that some of the posters on this forum are!
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04-22-2022 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nutflopper
Agree with all of this.

I don't think you could pick a worse guy to be the whistleblower of all this. You also probably couldn't pick a more entertaining guy either, though.
The problem is there is no upstanding guy that is going to be a whistleblower. They were all cheating it’s just different levels. So you need some wild card like this guy who just said f it
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04-22-2022 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by nutflopper
Could there be a worse messenger though? Random no one that I would have trouble believing could beat the Hot 4.40 on Stars by watching that interview, playing 10ks on the regular somehow. And the Craigslist armed robbery scams are quite sociopathic. Did I mention the ramblings of a deranged lunatic who is a clear drug addict.

Saying all that, everything he says may be true, but I sure wish he wasn't the guy to say it.
Clearly a busto scumbag if I've ever seen one.
Well we cant have it all. No one is ever willing to say a thing so at least he came out and told his story and hopefully some of what he stated is corroborated by others. I get that if it was Doug or Phil Galfond as the messenger we would have got a clearer and better articulated story.

To be honest I think it's a little over the top to assign 'busto scumbag' from a 2 hour podcast--not everyone presents themselves exactly how they best could. The stuff from 8 years ago is disgusting if true as told and was a blow to read after the fact. But I really don't think it hurts his credibility when it comes to describing his staking situation with Bryn as much as others do itt. Really happy he told his story and hopefully more comes out.
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04-22-2022 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamer
Again it would be super easy to refute some of the things he has said if he was lying.

Him being a scumbag and telling the truth are not mutually exclusive.

I would focus on the accusations rather than the accuser.

Again, not sure what you guys want. I'm sure Mother Teresa is not part of any botting/RTA/ghosting ring.

But I would bet a dollar to doughnuts that some of the posters on this forum are!
He hasn't technically proven a single thing yet. Like, not a single thing. His stories were shocking and entertaining but we will need receipts. The onus is not on Bryn to proven innocence, it's on Martin to prove guilt.

What do we want? I mean, in a perfect world Galfond would be the one to come forward with facts and evidence. Instead, we got Martin, the smoked up armed robber.

It is what it is.
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04-22-2022 , 03:54 PM
So far the Lauren Roberts thing seems to be one of the main stories which has some corroboration around it in terms of people, timelines, verifiable losses, etc. He even claimed to have been texting with her during the interview when she said to mention that at times Bryn was playing on her account during that period.
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04-22-2022 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamer
Its a well known political tactic to kill the messenger if you don't like the message.
Right, but that usually carries more weight when the messenger doesn't really have proof to support their accusations like it is with a lot of the sexual assault claims we hear in politics.. All Martin has to do is show the nuts and his past becomes less relevant to the case.

If he doesn't nothing will change and it might even get worse.
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04-22-2022 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by nutflopper
He hasn't technically proven a single thing yet. Like, not a single thing. His stories were shocking and entertaining but we will need receipts. The onus is not on Bryn to proven innocence, it's on Martin to prove guilt.

What do we want? I mean, in a perfect world Galfond would be the one to come forward with facts and evidence. Instead, we got Martin, the smoked up armed robber.

It is what it is.
Really, so you think the stuff about Lauren Roberts is wrong? This has been been corroborated from multiple sources.

And now Lauren Roberts admitted she even let Bryn play on her account.

Again you seem to want to attack the accuser rather than look at the allegations.
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