The actual pope or popedow?

Pretty sure that when you specify a specific person it has to actually be that specific person and not someone dressed up as him/her...

Ugh, don't remind me of that crap. What did Damien Sandow do to deserve this treatment?

I think the pope appearing on raw is about 50 million to 1. I will bet you a penny and ship it to your Pokerstars account.

Using google can be entertaining, but within pro wrestling it seems that many people can end up playing the same character. Apparently many played the character of Doink the Clown for instance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doink_the_Clown

so if a similar wager was offered with Doink being the person of interest ( a sentence I never thought I would type) then one would need to specify which one.

There is even a wrestler using the name "The Pope," though I think it is safe to say that he does not fully resemble the specific pope mentioned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah_Burke

10,000-1+ bets need to be pretty specific!

Does unrelated video footage count?

I agree Sandow deserves much better - he still owns the stuff he's given and does amazingly well though

Not taking that bet though as I'd still be less shocked at the pope appearing at raw as I was at Lesnar beating Undertakers streak.

While I certainly see the similarities between Doink and Pope Benedict XVI, I'd still maintain that "Pope Benedict XVI" with no qualifier is specific enough that no unbiased arbiter would tell me to pay up unless it was the actual Official One.

Doink had way better entrance music than the Pope btw.

I feel like it's my duty to protect 2+2ers whenever I see something like this that just feels "off".

To be fair, there was a post about bitcoins a while back that I initially did not like and posted my arguments (similar to this thread).

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...tcoin-1481690/

the poster challenged me to do some research and I did, and I came back to the post and recanted my initial arguments and acknowledged I was wrong.

In this case, I honestly love and hate this idea.

What do I love? Well, at it's core this is a phenomenally good idea with huge potential.

What do I hate? I think the execution is for shtt and half-assed and the primary focus is to make the owners and VCs money by using a business model that minimizes their risk and puts the burden/risk on Joe Schmoo poker player who doesn't understand business.

In business, one of the things you want to look for are companies that have "skin in the game". You want the company you are invested in to be heavily vested in themselves such that they will "feel" the failure.. Self preservation is a very big and necessary incentive for successful business ventures. And I just don't "feel" it in this venture.

They want to sell tickets first and THEN build the gaming platform.

If they were serious, they would build the gaming platform first THEN sell tickets.

I'm sure they have every "intent" of building a great event gaming platform but intent doesn't equal results. They are putting the risk on me instead of assuming the risks themselves.

And then there is the marketing. I have done a ton of searches and I can't find anything resembling a good press release on any major media site. Hell, I even look at Bluff Magazine and couldn't find anything other than two tweet references let alone something on CNN, ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC...

To me, it just doesn't have the gravitas that something like this should have. They should have bought the front (or back) cover of Bluff and Card Player and they should be on MSNBC talking about their upcoming launch...

I guess i've been OCD in trolling them, I'll have to think harder about why the more I research them the more pissed off I get. I dunno *shrug*

There is nothing wrong with transferring risk if reward is also transferred. In this case the reward being transferred is staking in Breakoutcoin. They are currently in the fund raising stage so how do you know they want do an all out advertising blitz? You don't know any of this stuff. You sound like somebody that knows a little about poker and a little about the legality of poker and very little about crypto currency.

I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread is getting trolled

Fair enough, I'm done trolling for a while. I'll wait a month, do more research then come back to this thread and post then I'll periodically come back in 3month / 6month increments and see how this goes. Maybe I am being overly harsh...

You seem to be confusing two separate things, which I will try and clarify:

The ongoing BRO Coin Sale, is a sale of a new cryptocurrency to folks who want to buy a new coin. Buying a BRO Coin is not buying an investment in any business that may accept BRO Coins as payment, buyng a bitcoin is not an investment into Overstock or Expedia or Paypal merchants who accept bitcoin. What someone buys in the BRO Coin Sale is some BRO Coin, they are not investing in a gaming company or any other venture.

Breakout Gaming Brand games will be a Brand used by a separate company or companies, across a variety of games, some gambling and some skill/fantasy, to offered in markets where such business is legal. The Brand will emphasize certain crypto-currency derived benefits for players by denominating its chips and games in BRO Coin. (The Coin Sale sponsor has committed to provide a pool of BRO Coins to the Gaming Brand sponsor to give away for freerolls, et cetera to promote the gaming brand to players, when the gaming brand is ready to launch.) Player benefits of crypto-denominated gaming should include transparency as to 100% coverage of player liability, which could be secured by blockchain technology recently developed which allows for securing those funds against operator theft .... No poker player or other gaming customer is being asked to "invest", they will be offered an opportunity to try the games, likely for free, once the games are licensed, launched and legally operating in markets where they reside.

The gaming brand model has been designed to accept BRO Coin, bitcoin, USD, LiteCoin, DogeCoin, Euros, et cetera. No one needs to have acquired BRO, BTC, LTC et cetera to play. This aspect is designed to bring in as many prospective gamers as possible, not just the current crypto-affinity markets.. The design should collaterally bring this new fiat-user value to the BRO because it "gamifies"* an introduction to cryptocurrency. It also may collaterally promote price stability; as a regulated gaming company the Gaming Brand sponsor will be required to maintain 100% coverage of player liability. which will drive BRO currency trading liquidity.

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamification. One of the drivers to Bitcoin use has been gambling, like SatoshiDICE. However, such bitcoin-only games require a prospective player to have already made the decision to buy a cryptocurrency. By making the first decision one to play a game, the idea is to bypass entirely the need for a decision to go out and buy a cryptocurrency, whether BTC or BRO, just to play that game. No great percentage of Overstock customers will ever buy bitcoin just to get a good deal on sheets that they want.)

Will the player experience on the gaming software be good, great or even lousy ? When the games are launched, the market will decide. Buy a bunch of gaming marketing today ? Why ? The games are not yet available for play. There is little point to enriching Card Player, Bluff, or even 2+2 until the gaming launch is a lot more imminent.

classic

Why are people gonnna go through all this just to play poker when they could just log into Pokerstars instead?

pokerstars play money chips are probably a better investment than brocoins

Now what?

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool...nes-a-scammer/

if john cougar mellencamp ever wins an oscar, i'm going to be a rich man

I just want better software than Seals with Clubs, better structured tournaments, a couple of respected poker pros, grey market friendly and some good marketing.

It doesn't have to be that hard. The software is the most difficult part. Make it BTC-only if needed.

Or if you can somehow process credit cards to BTC but that seems unlikely without cash advanced fees or some tricky/expensive processing.

well it is that hard ... all the smaller rooms don't struggle, b/c they don't know what a good software is, but they can't offer a better solution

kinda OT, but how do all the smaller rooms (especially non regulated bit coin clients) get their random numbers?

Calling Will Tipton?!

This **** is going to fail so hard it's ridiculous. There's no way these people don't realize this is just a scam to try and grab some quick cash.

Tom Dwan? Pass the crack pipe please!

update: http://www.flushdraw.net/news/return...t-coin-lagoon/

"And now, all of a sudden, it’s back. But with an entirely new coat of paint. A recent press release promoting Breakout Coin omits all mention of the once-planned Breakout Gaming platform. Gone are the 88 casino games, the online poker the virtual-currency betting exchange, all of it. Even BreakoutGaming.com, the original online home, now resolves to something called BreakoutEnterprise.com. And if you visit there, you can find out that Breakout Coin is still there, still envisioned as an online-gaming currency, but now utterly devoid of any site where such coins are supposed to be used."

ty for posting this.

A real shame that another scam site has so many well known "pros" attached to it.

So, playing the "WSOP Poker Champions" tourney today and this rolls thru the chat



I'm certain that your "luck" doesn't actually increase with the purchase of BRX coin but shady none the less. p.s. Brunson is sitting to my direct left !