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07-07-2015 , 02:57 AM

#1976

grenzen

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Maybe it just looks this way to me, but usually the dealers incompetence is a direct correlation with the quality of the cards dealt to the player.

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07-07-2015 , 03:03 AM

#1977

Wilbury Twist

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Originally Posted by tercet

By my estimates 90% of the people who are giving Hastings a hard time, have multi-accounted/shared accts, used VPNs, in the past, so stfu and stop being a bunch of hypocrites.

Have never multi-accounted or account-shared, nor have I used a VPN.

A total of 544 people have posted in this thread. One is Hastings himself. So of the 542 other people (I also excluded you), if there are 55 people in this thread who also have never done either act, your estimate is high.

Although using a VPN, as has been stated already, is not in and of itself an act that makes one hypocritical.

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Originally Posted by vinivici9586

Brian Hastings ‏@brianchastings 1h1 hour ago
Fwiw I was 100% polite, and I tried to verbally help first but it didn't help. Just super over coaching dealers in every tourney. A grind.

At risk of being nitty, has anyone ever non-verbally helped a dealer? I guess those on the National Deaf Poker Tour.

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07-07-2015 , 05:22 AM

#1978

numberonedonk

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Originally Posted by PeteBlow

What would that achieve? By residing in the US, he was already banned.

You do realize that many players "reside" in the US and still play when they leave the country right?

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07-07-2015 , 05:34 AM

#1979

Vas Deferens

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He was only trying to be helpful to a slow dealer,he is used to playing online and that is much faster, so i unnerstand his pain.

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07-07-2015 , 07:25 AM

#1980

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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist

I have never used a VPN or had multiple accounts. I think that Brian Hastings is scum for some of the things he does. But the best part is the fact his behavior shows he does not care. He knows he is disliked, but I guess anything to make a buck.

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07-07-2015 , 07:46 AM

#1981

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Originally Posted by jmurjeff

The High Stakes regs (most?) are not particularly bothered by what he did/does because they have behaved in the same/similar manner in the past with various degrees of scumminess.

Those most upset are the recreational/aspirational players who have come to realize from BH's actions and the defenses/rationalizations of it by High Stakes regs that if they play those games they can look forward to being cheated to one degree or another sooner or later.

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07-07-2015 , 08:34 AM

#1982

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There is a lot of colluding that goes in during high stakes games, live and online.

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07-07-2015 , 09:11 AM

#1983

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Originally Posted by numberonedonk

You do realize that many players "reside" in the US and still play when they leave the country right?

Of course, but they use their own account, which is my exact point.
They can ban the Stinger and NH accounts but not any others that he chooses to buy.

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07-07-2015 , 10:15 AM

#1984

poorme

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Originally Posted by PeteBlow

Of course, but they use their own account, which is my exact point.
They can ban the Stinger and NH accounts but not any others that he chooses to buy.

yep they probably already told him privately- "don't get caught this time dummy"

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07-07-2015 , 12:37 PM

#1985

sinepar

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Did anyone else just get a random email from stars warning against vpning from the US?

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07-07-2015 , 12:51 PM

#1986

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Originally Posted by sinepar

Did anyone else just get a random email from stars warning against vpning from the US?

No, can you post email?

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07-07-2015 , 12:54 PM

#1987

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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen

There is a lot of colluding that goes in during high stakes games, live and online.

When were the Gee Liberty halycon days on FTP?

2007? Gee was basically playing 3 teams by himself lol.

So Johnny Lodden thingie happened before that so blatant colluding/cheating/angling has been going on since pretty much online poker.

I remember in Irish Eyes Poker you could walk into a internet cafe and you were allowed enter many different accounts into the same tourney. This was in the poker boom ~2007 and the place was full of people doing it. You could even deposit on the counter no need for a card

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07-07-2015 , 01:05 PM

#1988

sinepar

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Originally Posted by LOLNHDONKWP

No, can you post email?

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07-07-2015 , 01:26 PM

#1989

poorme

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Originally Posted by sinepar

at least they are trying to cover their butts and taking steps to ensure they get licensed in whatever jurisdiction in the US.

curious to know if they sent that email out to all accounts or just some. cant help but wonder if the email was sent selectively to some they deem as possible/likely offenders in some way.

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07-07-2015 , 01:34 PM

#1990

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Limon in his Twitch stream last night said he was one hundred percent certain that PokerStars knew what Hastings was doing.

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07-07-2015 , 01:44 PM

#1991

sinepar

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Originally Posted by poorme

I've never played much volume on stars/obviously haven't vpned or anything so no clue. Thought they might have sent it to everybody after the attention this thread has received.

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07-07-2015 , 01:56 PM

#1992

DaCus3

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I got the email, I am an American that lives in Germany so it's possible they just targeted Americans living abroad.

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07-07-2015 , 02:00 PM

#1993

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I got the email. American living in the Czech Republic.

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07-07-2015 , 02:01 PM

#1994

Monorail

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Originally Posted by restorativejustice

Limon in his Twitch stream last night said he was one hundred percent certain that PokerStars knew what Hastings was doing.

When asked why on these forums, he has repeatedly ignored the Q. His "rationale", if you want to call it that, has been nothing more than "because how could they not!!eleven!!!???!!". Assume he provided 0 in the way of proof on the podcast as well.

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07-07-2015 , 02:01 PM

#1995

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lol "strong action against such users"

Rasva is rolling around on all the money that he scammed on Stars like that fat arse conehead from breaking Bad

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07-07-2015 , 02:17 PM

#1996

pocket_zeros

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Originally Posted by vinivici9586

just lol

Brian Hastings ‏@brianchastings 1h1 hour ago
Got in altercation w/ dealer who was unhappy that I was helping her make change to speed up game. Enjoy my business while you have it @WSOP

Brian Hastings ‏@brianchastings 1h1 hour ago
Fwiw I was 100% polite, and I tried to verbally help first but it didn't help. Just super over coaching dealers in every tourney. A grind.

Brian Hastings ‏@brianchastings 1h1 hour ago
I really hope @WSOP does the right thing and starts a players committee to help work thru the issues. W/o it I will play v little in future.

Brian making this public is horrible for the game of poker. He should have kept it quiet and sent a PM to the dealer to work out mutually-agreeable reparations.

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07-07-2015 , 03:28 PM

#1997

jfound

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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros

Brian making this public is horrible for the game of poker. He should have kept it quiet and sent a PM to the dealer to work out mutually-agreeable reparations.

lol a+

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07-07-2015 , 06:43 PM

#1998

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Originally Posted by restorativejustice

Limon in his Twitch stream last night said he was one hundred percent certain that PokerStars knew what Hastings was doing.

Zero benefit for stars letting BH fly under teh radar, huge downfall if it comes out they knew and give him a freepass...

Stars isnt run by a bunch of ******s, teh majority of those guys is fairly smart.

Limon is an entertaining kid but sometimes he should just zip it

OR PROVIDE A REASONABLE THEORY WHY STARS KNEW...