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Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post. Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post.

07-03-2015 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GMLAW
Moooooooom,

But everyone else did it toooooooo!!!!

Pretty compelling arguments ITT.
Read:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/de...ish/status-quo
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07-03-2015 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GMLAW
Moooooooom,

But everyone else did it toooooooo!!!!

Pretty compelling arguments ITT.
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07-03-2015 , 03:30 PM
No, I see your point just fine :-).

He screwed up by doing what everyone else was doing. With no evidence that indeed everyone else was doing it.
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07-03-2015 , 04:09 PM
I wonder if the GPI WSOP POY points system will combine any Brian Hastings points w Noel Hayes ones?

something to consider

any chance Stinger might try using the Vanessa Rousso acct for awhile? I hear it might be dormant for the Summer.
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07-03-2015 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by captZEEbo
I'm not exactly clear how many people were doing this, but I always assumed a lot were. The same tournament with multiple accounts was basically the party network's fault. It wasn't some mad computer hacking skill to be able to enter multiple accounts into the same tourney. Many people (myself included) had accounts on multiple party network sites like party, empire poker, pokernow, etc. Their software disallowed you from sitting on the same cash game table on your party/empire account at the same time. Their software also disallowed you from playing at the same Sit N Go at the same time from multiple accounts. However their software allowed you to enter into the same tournament from multiple sites. They had the capability to not allow ZeeJustin's et al shenanigans but seemed to tacitly condone it with their policy. I assume they wanted the extra rake and didn't really care too much about the outside chance someone gets put at the same table as themselves. I can't say I blame ZeeJustin at all. If I were a tourney pro at the time, I probably would have done the same thing. I'm pretty sure this started as a player's rule and not a site's rule.
I started getting into poker just after some of this happened, but the bold part is precisely what I figured.

Also, if their software prevented the same player from sitting at the same cash or SNG table, it's also quite possible that it prevents multiple players from ending up at the same MTT table. (I'm sure someone can confirm/refute this first-hand.)


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Originally Posted by highhustla
Other members of the elite HS inner circle are obviously those most directly affected by Hastings' actions, and that would likely be the most +EV short term play for them.

However, this thread is about poker players who are not in the elite HS circle actually giving a **** about the integrity and long term health of the game.

That's why guys like Bakes deserve props.
A little love for this, please.

Indeed, I don't get the "it doesn't affect you so why do you care" argument that has pervaded throughout this thread. Besides the interest in integrity and long-term health of poker, there's also a little something called empathy.

Suppose you see some car smashing the panel of a neighboring BMW while backing out of a parking spot. The driver gets out, looks around to see if anyone noticed, fails to spot you watching from your office window, then screeches off.

The type of person concerned with integrity would say, "What an idiot! Leave a note, because it's the right thing to do."

The type of person concerned with the overall health of poker would say, "What a bastard! Each time someone gets away with this only increases the probability that I will one day get hit-and-run myself."

An empathetic person would say, "What a prick! I know I'd be pissed if that was my car."

But the average NVGer in this thread would say, "Meh, it wasn't my car, so he did nothing wrong." Additionally, to the second and third person, he'd say, "Oh sure, like anyone is worried about you taking your 2004 Camry to the body shop." And to the first, he'd just say "Dude, are you gay?"
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07-03-2015 , 05:52 PM
^^^ lol soapboxes.
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07-03-2015 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
^^^ lol soapboxes.
I apologize if I've missed some of your contributions to this thread, but mainly they seem to be complaining about people expressing their views on an Internet forum.

As such - I'm not sure you understand a fairly big part of the purpose and point of Internet forums.

They're not just about yelling about whether or not Roman Reigns deserves a title shot.

Spoiler:
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07-03-2015 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RJPoker
He is far from being respected and never will be respected. Tolerated maybe. Look at people like Ferguson and Lederer. They were once at the forefront of respected poker players and now they are not even welcomed at most cash games. Poker players do not have short memories for cheats and liars especially when that cheating affects the bottom line. All poker players should support the people cheated and shun the cheaters. But you like the cheaters which is indicative of "Birds of a Feather Stick Together." There cannot be any other rationale for your support.
Lmao

Lederer and Ferguson would both be more than welcome in any cash game anywhere, and have been since BF

This is an obnoxiously awful post
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07-03-2015 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCanoe
Lmao

Lederer and Ferguson would both be more than welcome in any cash game anywhere, and have been since BF

This is an obnoxiously awful post
Hey Genius. Why don't you ask Howard the next time you run into him at the Aria about the visit that Chris and him received after their on-line escapades. Just mention the name "Al" and watch him cringe. Welcome in any cash game my ass. Those boys are still jumping at noises in 2015. But you are the expert. You know nothing about Vegas justice.
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07-03-2015 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCanoe
Lmao

Lederer and Ferguson would both be more than welcome in any cash game anywhere, and have been since BF

This is an obnoxiously awful post
idk anything about others

but personally I would book a plane anywhere in the world to piss on their graves when that time comes.

My hope is that others in this community feel the same, but idk.

*TheCanoe* you seem confident speaking for the rest of the world as a group, that must be really empowering. Watch out for that first step tho, it can be a big one.
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07-03-2015 , 11:02 PM
this is my fav...back when hastings cheated isildur out of $4 mill

In another interesting twist, Hastings posted the following on the Two Plus Two Forums on Dec. 7, the day before his $4.2 million session:

“Everyone who took pieces of my 500/1k action this spring,
Just so there's no confusion I am taking the standing pieces off the table, I don't remember if it was supposed to be for all 500/1k or just for vs Gus but anyway my situation has changed a lot in the past 6 months and I wish to end with the standing pieces because of that. Sorry I lost you a bit of $ and thanks for understanding, I'll try to get in touch with all of you individually too although I don't have everyone's email”

Who’s winning against Isildur1? Hastings (+$3.84 million), Ivey (+$2.91 million), Antonius (+$2.18 million), and Townsend (+1.32 million).

Who’s losing against Isildur1? Dwan (-$5.52 million)
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07-04-2015 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RJPoker
Hey Genius. Why don't you ask Howard the next time you run into him at the Aria about the visit that Chris and him received after their on-line escapades. Just mention the name "Al" and watch him cringe. Welcome in any cash game my ass. Those boys are still jumping at noises in 2015. But you are the expert. You know nothing about Vegas justice.
This post gives me a hard-on, it implies so much great stuff
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07-04-2015 , 07:27 AM
the correlation b/w post count and content quality on 2p2 has slowly reversed over time, pretty sick
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07-04-2015 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RJPoker
Hey Genius. Why don't you ask Howard the next time you run into him at the Aria about the visit that Chris and him received after their on-line escapades. Just mention the name "Al" and watch him cringe. Welcome in any cash game my ass. Those boys are still jumping at noises in 2015. But you are the expert. You know nothing about Vegas justice.
This is awesome. Why didn't we hear about this before?
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07-04-2015 , 08:35 AM
going through instagram and Mercier posted a pic the other day of Brian, those 2 are clearly really good buddies so it makes sense that Brian aka TittyBoi McSmiles told Mercier from day 1 that he was on the Noel account he possibly even told Mercier beforehand that he was acquiring the account to play from the USA so I wonder if Jason advised him not to or just didn't care. I think PokerStars needs to punish them both, Jason maybe a suspension but its not like he plays online all to much so i doubt he'd care.
fwiw i needed a $ transfer the other day on Stars and my friend told me to log into his account and transfer to my account since he was away for the day well i was already logged into my account all day from an ip address that i had never logged on from before so anyways when i tried logging into my friends account on vpn i couldn't get in so i just logged in on the internet connection and immediately Stars sent me the answer these security questions prompt instead of calling my friend back to answer them i just hit cancel logged out called and told him and he logged in his account when he finally got home answered the 2 security questions and he was in his account no problems..LOL Stars is hillarious.
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07-04-2015 , 09:15 AM
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LOL Stars is hillarious.
Indeed.
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07-04-2015 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by YaBoyINthe604
going through instagram and Mercier posted a pic the other day of Brian, those 2 are clearly really good buddies so it makes sense that Brian aka TittyBoi McSmiles told Mercier from day 1 that he was on the Noel account he possibly even told Mercier beforehand that he was acquiring the account to play from the USA so I wonder if Jason advised him not to or just didn't care. I think PokerStars needs to punish them both, Jason maybe a suspension but its not like he plays online all to much so i doubt he'd care.
If he get banned, Pokerstars can ban him from EPT as well for the same period.
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07-04-2015 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by samooth
the correlation b/w post count and content quality on 2p2 has slowly reversed over time, pretty sick
wish I could fav this
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07-05-2015 , 05:09 AM
Any statement from Stars yet?
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07-05-2015 , 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by epcfast
Any statement from Stars yet?
Yes, they took swift action. I sent in video of BH playing and multi-accounting on Stars and they swiftly reacted by banning me from making any more videos of people playing on Stars
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07-05-2015 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Acesfullofgarbage
Yes, they took swift action. I sent in video of BH playing and multi-accounting on Stars and they swiftly reacted by banning me from making any more videos of people playing on Stars
Rightly so.
Clearly for the good of the game.
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07-05-2015 , 06:31 AM
I think if they issued a statement it would be something like this.

"On the subject of the so called multi accounting high stakes cheating,it does not now nor never has existed,and moreover we have made excellent progress in combating it if it does or has,which,of course,it doesn't and hasn't,unless you have compelling evidence that you're about to show us ,in which case we're late for a very important meeting."
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07-05-2015 , 07:47 AM
Breakeven (NoelHayes version)


I'm at the final table of SCOOP this evening
Got a business deal but Bakes not believing
And I got good feelings bout bracelet season
'Cause when I play on NoelHayes no I don't break even

What I did was bad, but tattling is worse
Keep your mouth shut and put poker first
My intentions are good, got no trouble sleeping
And when I play on NoelHayes no I don't break even... even... no

What am I supposed to do when they call me a cheat on 2+2?
And what am I supposed to say when I feel like what I did was ok?
Who wants to buy pieces (of Noel)?
Who wants to buy pieces?

They say downswings happen for a reason
Don't take it out me that your roll's decreasing
While I've moved on, forum nerds are steaming
Stinger will pay your equity, please believe him (I mean me)

What am I supposed to do when they call me a cheat on 2+2?
And what am I supposed to say when I feel like what I did was ok?
Who wants to buy pieces (of Noel)?
Who wants to buy pieces?
(Bracelet bets cashing in this season)
I'm falling to pieces
(Stinger's rusty at these games, but Noel ain't even)

My integrity vanished along with my chin
I'll do whatever it takes for a win
Now I'm bathing in money while you all complain, ooh
This has left me with no trust and honour to my names.

Saying I cheated is a bit misleading
I told some dudes who I was, so let's call it even
If you want online poker in the land of freedom
We can't drag its name through the mud so
Don't talk about Noel,
Don't mention him even


What am I supposed to do when they call me a cheat on 2+2?
And what am I supposed to say when I feel like what I did was ok?
Who wants to buy pieces (of Noel)?
Who wants to buy pieces?
(World series is calling)
Who wants to buy pieces?
(My girl loves me for my personality)
Who wants to buy pieces?
(I'm a real good dude if you get to know me)

NoelHayes don't break even no
NoelHayes don't break even no
NoelHayes don't break even no

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For the record just made these lyrics for the lolz, not a Hastings hater and while I don't agree with what he did I do have some empathy for his situation. so I feel a little bad for making this but it fit too well not to do it.
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07-05-2015 , 08:00 AM
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07-05-2015 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Acesfullofgarbage
Yes, they took swift action. I sent in video of BH playing and multi-accounting on Stars and they swiftly reacted by banning me from making any more videos of people playing on Stars
lol. on that note they should ban training videos which can give info on how particular players play etc and how to counteract it. training videos should be forced to black out all players names.
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