So there is a fairly new acount on 2+2 called "8-game" and his first post on this forum was a direct answer to stinger88 in another thread about sharing HH before this story got public.

And all the other posts are here in the BH - MA thread about having 4 horses in those game.

Maybe I am wrong, but I would not be too surprised if there are no horses.

Perhaps they should do this for the Lithuanian stable that reg all 3x's. Or should honest players be expected to pay a hidden rake?

Love you Donk!

There was a time where, at the highest stakes, every gambly new account was thought of as possibly being Guy. Everyone sat in long waiting lists to play these new names... Most of the time, it wasn't the golden goose. Some high stakes bosses even started rumors that their SN's were in fact Guy to get action... No one complained about it in the heyday of Tilt! Why? There was enough money to go around and nobody cared.

Hastings original name on FT was LucLongley. I remember that people on this board debated for weeks about whether it was actually the basketball player. back then, was hastings required to let 2+2 know that it was him?

Nobody, "knew", this NH account. Yeah, it was named after some degen. If you think that anyone in highstakes actually assumed it was the original owner you are crazy. You don't get to the nosebleeds being an idiot.

There's been no solid proof that the account actually played "fishy" to start sessions. Sounds like a great way to rationalize a loss.

Had stinger started a new account to VPN would it of been ok? Players still would of assumed it was a random account and taken some shots before realizing it was a reg. This is the risk of the game in online poker imo.

Or is anyone that VPNs from the US scum?

Lots of dumb smart people in the thread imo.

I lost 14k in equity from side bets against Noel Hayes with my bros while we were railing the high stakes games. Then I bet my house on a bracelet bet against Hastings. Thanks a lot, Stinger.

I played a substantial amount of 8 game mix with Noel Hayes and he didn't actively play different than BH to get action. It took very little time for me to realize NH was clearly experienced in all the games but just was on the spewier/laggier side.

I want to weigh in a lot more on this whole mess soon. Hopefully I'll have something written that I'm happy with tomorrow.

YES! Too funny. Just what I expect of a Huff&Stapes-fan...

I hear ya 8-Game....... It starts with getting the evidence that is out there, then u call up some news outlet like" THE YOUNG TURKS" & also calling the FBI & IRS about how americans are scamming/fraud the igaming world by avoiding TAX (by using accounts registered in tax free countries).
And by also Using sophisticated computer programs to gain edges etc just for a spin on it. Add in this thread in that lee jones & other poker pro's see this as no big deal, make the numbers sound BIG like MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
Get a few people You know & trust to give up some $ to get a P.I like that lot that went after the CARD COUNTERS from MIT, i say them cos they were dam good at the job & when its fraud-tax avoinence these guys are 1 sighted with no grey areas, RUN WITH IT & make a
HEADLINE"HIGHSTAKES POKER PLAYERS & HOW THEY AVOID THE IRS ETC"
already enough info hear for a good investigative journalist to run with.

Gl 8 Game

lol the trolls out in full force

This is just so much bull****.

This is like saying (hold on to your horses) that it's fine if my mother decides which jail sentence I should get for robbing a bank. She is soooo strict anyways.

It's bias. Bias is collusion by default no matter how you try to spin it.

If I knew beforehand I was going to sit at a table where people shared bankroll or with a backer and backee I would stay far away from that table.

Walk us through this one.

Isn't the difference that a horse doesn't have a piece of another horse's action, even if they have the same backer - so he's incentivized to work for himself - whereas a backer has a piece of one of the other players at the table.

Slightly weird situation but it would also be ok if someone had the same piece of every other player at that table - for example to make a televised cash game appear to play bigger.

Well Noel Hayes probably went along with this right? Otherwise BH would have had to crack the password and any other security measures there might have been and this whole time without the account holder knowing about it.

So considering this Noel Hayes is almost as big of a douchebag if the former is true.

oh the nerve

Can't help but think of the Sparrows when reading this thread.

For 6 and 9m sngs, possibly 18s, youre supposed to report any staking relationships and they will ban you from entering same games. Id assumed it was similar for cash but apparently not.

Wow never though anybody would be able to top Busquet on the **** stakes but Rasva has somehow managed it.

Cliffs on why Busquet is a **** ? must have missed something

Looking forward to this post. I mentioned earlier that any "top pro" should have been able to see this at least in the limit games more or less right away.

PLO and NLHE may take longer but I have no idea cause I don't play those games.

https://twitter.com/olivierbusquet/s...39918584496128

finally, a real look into the mind of Brian Hastings

Something tells me this thread would have been 1/10th of the size it is if Hayestings would have kept his mouth shut. Not sure he could have handled this worse.

Also if it was someone like Isildur or Patrik who were unable to legally play online in their home country admitted to VPNing, people would admire their ingenuity and dedication to play the games they love in spite of "the man" and his bullsheeet laws.

But since everybody hates Rasva it's open season.

It's kind of lol.

Getting Feds Invloved would be the worst thing.

The Feds are already aware of issues surrounding Hastings and on-line poker.