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06-30-2015 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTyman9
has to be the high stakes mix games, can't be tourneys. He said that his horses would have not chosen to play him if it was stinger88. If it was tourneys they wouldn't have had a choice to not play or stop playing if put on his table so has to be cash games obv.
1 cashgame player. 3 tourny players that occas. play cash. All have played Noel at some point but only 1 for "big" money.
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06-30-2015 , 05:27 PM
hard to believe some big fish is playing and one horse doesn't tell the other. are you saying your horses never played together with him?
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06-30-2015 , 05:29 PM
Because most tournament specialists play nosebleed mixed games??

Seems like you're implying collusion or something, which is stupid. if not my b
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06-30-2015 , 05:44 PM
im not implying collusion. im saying it's very likely they colluded if they played on the same $ in the same game. almost impossible not to.
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06-30-2015 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by thankjay
hard to believe some big fish is playing and one horse doesn't tell the other. are you saying your horses never played together with him?
Yep. Its supereasy in 2015 to tell all your friends when fish comes on and then just sit alltogether. Plenty of time until a table fills up these days when a fish sits down. V suspicious 😂😂😂
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06-30-2015 , 05:57 PM
If Lee Jones was telling the truth in his last interview, then there is a major thing many of you are missing. He said Stars is prohibited by regulation from ever revealing details about a player account. If that is true we will never get a press release from Stars weather or not Brian has been punished. For all we know they have already banned him. There are lots of calls in this thread for Stars to say something, but I doubt they ever will.

Odds are they ban him and take his cash and we find out via the community.
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06-30-2015 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by thankjay
im not implying collusion. im saying it's very likely they colluded if they played on the same $ in the same game. almost impossible not to.
No collusion at all ofc. Maybe it's naive but we like the game to be fair. If everybody tries their hardest to cheat in every possible fashion the high stakes online poker arena will die a slow death. Maybe that's the only way going forward though. Shut down everything over 40/80 mix and 10/20 NL/PLO.
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06-30-2015 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by limon
the corporate spokespeople directly or tangentially involved (surely mercier, possibly selbst & negreanu?)
I usually love your posts, but this part is just wrong, particularly as to Vanessa Selbst. She posted earlier in this thread and, if anything, revealed her lack of understanding of the underlying facts. There's no reason to drag her (and Negreanu) into this. She did not come across particularly well in this thread - for a reason - but attribution of the Hastings scandal to her is unfair, at a minimum.
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06-30-2015 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 8-Game
No collusion at all ofc. Maybe it's naive but we like the game to be fair. If everybody tries their hardest to cheat in every possible fashion the high stakes online poker arena will die a slow death. Maybe that's the only way going forward though. Shut down everything over 40/80 mix and 10/20 NL/PLO.
so you're saying your horses never played cash on the same table?
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06-30-2015 , 06:32 PM
Did Vanessa play any SCOOP events this year? If so, what country does she play from?
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06-30-2015 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fisherfolk
If Lee Jones was telling the truth in his last interview, then there is a major thing many of you are missing. He said Stars is prohibited by regulation from ever revealing details about a player account. If that is true we will never get a press release from Stars weather or not Brian has been punished. For all we know they have already banned him. There are lots of calls in this thread for Stars to say something, but I doubt they ever will.

Odds are they ban him and take his cash and we find out via the community.
My experience is you can never really believe what Lee Jones says - not because he is necessarily a liar, more because (1) he's the ultimate company shill, and (2) he's an idiot.

Lee Jones most recently (on 2p2 PCast) said something to the effect that Stars was all over many breaches of TOS - when apparently many ppl seem to be VPNing fr all over the US with no identification or repercussion - and also apparently for some time.

Sarah Palin has been known to provide better answers to direct questions.

If they (Stars) *ban him (Stinger) and take his cash* they have an obligation to the community to yell it from the highest mountain as a means of dissuading future similar violations. This is not about pride - its about cleaning up a big friggin mess quickly decisively, and completely.
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06-30-2015 , 06:53 PM
My horses don't even live inte same country. I invest in players and expect roi. These individuals have nothing more in common than any 4 random players playing on the EPT tour. I back them and they play to win. They all play on their own account under their own names. BH did not follow one player/one account rule and have therefore cheated. This is fact. I accept if we get 0 back but something has to be done otherwise highstakes online poker will die.
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06-30-2015 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by my_nameaintearl
So your horses were targeting games NH played in because you thought he was a mark. Instead your guys were the marks and now you are demanding revenge.

The word I have gotten is that there were people lining up to play "Noel " Some pretty big money games were being formed around this account and now people don't like being on the other side of coin.

So it's ok to exploit people, but not be exploited?
This is one of the most ridiculous pieces of logic fail ever. Poker games will never die.
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06-30-2015 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fisherfolk
If Lee Jones was telling the truth in his last interview, then there is a major thing many of you are missing. He said Stars is prohibited by regulation from ever revealing details about a player account.
Stars won't reveal personal information about their customers (you can't ask how much money is in the NoelHayes account and expect to get an answer) due to Data Protection and Privacy laws, but it can (and occasionally does) reveal the names of banned cheaters if you report suspicious behaviour.

I think that anyone who played against 'NoelHayes' has the right to know if they were cheated against, and what measures Stars will take to compensate the victims. Likewise with the PLO bots. It's called transparency and caring about your customers. You know, that thing that Pokerstars used to be really good at.
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06-30-2015 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by limon
As someone who worked for a media company with corporate spokespeople (loooong ago) what i believed was going to happen here was the corporate spokespeople directly or tangentially involved (surely mercier, possibly selbst & negreanu?) would be suspended pending an investigation. Normally a corporation with millions to lose from a scandal that includes spokespeople goes into damage control and throws any tainted spokespeople immediately overboard (NBC and Trump in the news now). Its an easy "fix".

In this case, we have, with 100% certainty, proof that a spokeperson knew of cheating/violations of the companies TOS and many have, rightly, assumed he wasnt immediately forthcoming with management. (let me make clear right now i don't believe these spokespeople owed anything to the poker community, but they do owe their boss if they want to keep their jobs). But herein lies the problem , if these sponsored pros knew of cheating, TOS and legal violations and willingly kept it from their bosses they would be instantly and viciously thrown to the wolves. ITS AN EASY SUPERFICIAL FIX.

So why hasnt this happened? How is it that information regarding a cabal of players cheating pokerstars paying customers was kept from corporate management BY THEIR SPOKESPEOPLE and no one has been canned? well..... heres where i think it gets interesting. It seems obvious that the sponsored pros DID TELL MANAGEMENT AND WERE IGNORED! STARS KNEW. Stars was going through a sale and then an IPO and they didnt need news that there was a huge cheating ring operating in their HS games. They swept it under the rug and now that its out they cant fire anyone because if they did internal documents would bury them.

WHAT DID THEY KNOW AND WHEN DID THEY KNOW IT?

The good news for the poker world is there is no honor among thieves, this story has legs.
very well said
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06-30-2015 , 07:36 PM
Hastings in first in $25k plo. TiD!!!!!!
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06-30-2015 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by lemmyisgod
My experience is you can never really believe what Lee Jones says - not because he is necessarily a liar, more because (1) he's the ultimate company shill, and (2) he's an idiot.
Nailed it.
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06-30-2015 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fivetypes
Nailed it.
Agreed. LJ is company shill. He is still living off his original awesome support staff at Stars first tango. He did absolutely nothing at CardRunners, his stint at Cake was laughable, and same thing at Stars again.
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06-30-2015 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
Hastings in first in $25k plo. TiD!!!!!!
He's also locked up #1 and #7 in the GCI for the month. (NSFW)
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06-30-2015 , 08:19 PM
this topic deserves wsop tv coverage
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06-30-2015 , 08:27 PM
Can someone explain how this cheater has still been allowed to play poker after his past history? I guess the rules don't apply to all. GG Stars.
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06-30-2015 , 08:38 PM
Hasting confirmed having greatest summer ever then ride off into sunset with his million never to be seen again.
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06-30-2015 , 08:48 PM
F U Brian you've been busted big time and then you just want everything to go away and for you to maintain your golden boy rep, what he did should not be accepted at all and the only reason i can see anyone defending him is you are his family, gf or best friend, seems like Brian needs to cheat to win.
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06-30-2015 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
Hastings in first in $25k plo. TiD!!!!!!
Check the cards for markings.
What? Is that the ONE thing he wouldn't do?
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06-30-2015 , 09:00 PM
Sooner or later sites will not even offer stakes above 10/20 or maybe even 5/10. This would be good for poker.
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