Aye if you're on #teamhastings it comes under "and then what hastings done" if you are not on #teamhastings it comes under "playing under an identity to directly gain an edge" and i would think his initial motives when purchasing this rich buisness man's account was the latter.

Bakes hinted at a couple of them in one of his tweets.

Mercier is one for sure. Based on her hostile posts ITT, I'm going to go ahead and guess that Vanessa is another.

While Mercier knew for sure and played in the games with Hastings it's not sure if he was the one who Bakes hinted at.

George danzer would be my guess. He was at the same final table as him last year and also played in his online games.

that would be pretty interesting considering:

What comment #number is Vanessa contribution to this thread?

someone should start a petition thread to remove JM as a Stars Pro. at least force him to come out and deny or admit that he was aware that BH was cheating and choose not to do anything about it because #pals #greyarea

I am missing the joke. How is that different from what Hastings did?

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Because common sense dictates Brian used another account because of his status in the poker world. With his new gf being very active on social media and him being one of the more well known poker players he thought that playing from the USA was too big of a risk that his account would get shut down.

Add that with the fact he told a lot of the players he was playing against that it was him.

It makes way more sense that he did it to protect from getting banned than trying to gain an unfair advantage.

Now I think that Brian underestimated how much of an advantage he was gaining and how much his opponents thought he was gaining.


Bottom line is if he was doing it With the objective to steal equity he would have done it as annonomously as possible and that is clearly not what he did.

Almost half of these have been edited as well. Does anyone have the original posts still? Like I mentioned before, I remember seeing them when she was first posting and they came off even worse from what is posted now. IF I am remembering correctly.

Thanks for posting these though for quick reference.

EDIT: ( ironic ) It appears #2 does not go directly to a post, for me it is just going to the main page of NVG.

Thats a possibility.

But given that hes made the statement more than once that making a big deal of him breaking the rules of one man per account, is worse for poker than letting him do it, then I think its equally likely he just got over confident and thought his 'mates' wouldnt rat him out.

After all he played cash for a while didnt he? (Bakes hand from Feb) Did he tell everyone the first time he used it? Doubt it, he prob told a couple and it grew from there.

Also theres the whole fishy play to start games and all that.

Bottom line is theres no bottom line, but given what has been posted its weighted heavily towards him having both reasons as motivation.

Noone will ever no though unless he decides to explitly lay out the truth, which I doubt he even knows himself given his weird posts.

Pretty much agree with all of this

Don't see a problem in VPN'ing. **** our government. I'm from the US, can't leave, and haven't played since BF and if I had a way to get an address, bank account, etc. outside the US I would do it. But playing on an account that others already view as fishy to get action/deceive people is pretty scummy. Had a lot of respect for Hastings and remember watching his videos back in the day on CR, but can't say that I do now.

It seems impossible that he would not realize how big of an edge playing under a fish account gives him.

Also, it seems ridiculously narcissistic that he can't just wait to get outside the USA to play online poker. It is a hour-three hour flight.

Also, it is quite possible that someone figured it out on their own that he was behind that account forcing him to admit it to some, or that the guy who sold it to him told someone that he was behind it.

sorry, i ****ed up the link. fixed now.

It's not the kinda thing which happens all the time (accounts being sold) so it's not like he's being given a really wide range of different accounts to choose from. He needs to find someone who a) he trusts 100% and b) is willing to give up their account.

With 6 figures plus in the account it's a lot easier to trust a rich businessman than it is a regular small stakes grinder.

He could have created a new account in his dad's, brother, sister, etc. name that didn't have a fishy history, and let as many players know it was him, esp the ones he was playing HU. That way he didn't risk getting his original account shut down in case poker gets legalized in the US again and he wouldn't be using the account to gain an unfair advantage. And playing fishy at the start of a session against someone who didn't know it was him tells me he was doing just that.

This is a post by Michael Josem of Pokerstars pr.

This is why multi accounting is banned, and why stars should bring prosecutions for this.

F hastings, JM, VS, and stars period! time for some new blood and a new site to take over the online world. prolly wont happen but its what needs to be done! i hope stars and their new ownership never get in the US

Do people like BH (US citizens) VPNing pretending to be Irish or Canadian/whatever pay taxes on their winnings like US citizens should do? I would of thought evading tax would be a bigger issue to the VPNing winner than Stars banning the account. How would that work anyway, say I'm BH, I get the NoelHayes account set up pretending to be in god knows where, win $100K, how do I get my money? Are taxes filed? I mean theres always a paper trail.

Ok so if u did it what account would u play on?? If u were got u would play on an account of the best players? If u were bad u would choose a fishes account? U stated u would do it which is obv illegal, so u break one rule which account u gonna pick? One that give u more edge or less?!

Good point. Do tax paying countries have to show evidence of the games poker winnings are made in or what?

Can he just xfer 200k from NH to Stinger and say to the IRS, oh yeh I won 200k?

Also that Joesm post is pretty interesting. If they need to identify players by law isnt he breaking the law by hiding his identity, or using a false one?

Where are you stars? Your rake payers want answers

well except for that whole MA thing.

just read and fmop (fixed my own post, just made that up.. meme credit for me).

after thinking more and reading about this ITT was pretty scummy thing for anyone to do, extra scummy, unforgiveable, and also pretty dumb for someone with his position in the poker world .

and given that Stars should spend an unfair share of security costs on higher stakes game, really really bad miss that this slipped through. I'd expect costs were cut across the board post Amaya which might be partial to blame.

earth to Josem ?