Every time a cheating scandal around known HS players occurs (and there have been many of those over the years, especially MAing and colluding) the same mindset of a HS pro gets revealed which is:

- There's a massive cheating of all kinds going on online.
- MA is standard and one of the minor offences.
- Therefore, I don't mind people I know MAing and I'm gonna keep my mouth shut about it as long as I am told who are the players behind the SNs on my current tables.
- Couldn't care less about other victims of a MA scam, as long as it's not me.
- The last thing I'll do is inform the general public or the sites I'm playing at about known MA-ers.
- Occasionally, when some of them get cought I'll jump on forums to defend them and downplay their cheating behaviors.

This is the vibe I'm getting every time something like this happens, it's a Deja vu.

This is just another reason sites should do away with stakes above 10/20

Vanessa was right she should never have posted this in the first place.

But coming on here to belittle the act of BH, make it sound like not a big deal and state that black&white rules from the site she represents are grey area was just not very smart, she should know better. If she's not friends with BH i don't really know why she got involved I'm guessing that because Mercier was mentionned in this story and she's good bud with jason she wanted to extinguish the fire. Mercier's spot is at least a grey area and his situation is a lot more debatable and I wouldn't blame him without knowing more. With what we know, BH was 100% wrong and doesn't deserve to be defended. If she had just posted that what Brian did was absolutely wrong and he deserves the blames he's getting but argued in favor of Jason then it would have been no problem by me

Let's not forget that BH played on the NH account in the SCOOP.

How many players (dozens? hundreds?) were at his tables and would have played hands much differently if they knew BH was in the hand with them?

hi Vanessa, Thanks for clearing the air.
Well said, as someone earlier in the thread said its not what u said but the way u came across.
If i offended U in my earlier post, sorry about that, but i don't think i did
tbh.
As a public figure(stars pro) u MUST condone all & any forms of cheating.
And yeah for the 1 person to accuse u of ghosting lol (did he have a camera in you're house haha) u can take that with a pinch of salt.
Please don't stop posting, I appreciate you're insight into things as I for 1 can agree that you're defo smarter that me. 2 defo have more experience than me. 3 I like to hear someone elses opinion, indifferent or not.
The one thing that i will take from you're posts is that if US gets regulated i agree with U that is when the LAW can be enforced.
Maybe just MAYBE STARS will have to start looking outside the box to get better at detection VPN'S MA'ing. If the NSA & UKGHQ can do it then stars needs to follow suit.
As you are a law abiding person like myself i know it irritates u just as much if not more that ppl are cheating to gain thousands if not millions of $ a year.

Please keep-up the good work u do to get regulation for the US & then all players can take it from there.

Gl at the WSOP & you're travels

very astute analysis of how these situations actually affect various parties

and the following scenario is imo quite likely to sometimes occur:
a group of top players(in a player pool) agrees that one member will pose as a fish/unknown to attract a weaker player for their mutual profit

This post sounds very formal (for your standards) and 'washing-hands-like' all of a sudden.
For the record : Did stars got in touch with you after your last few posts?

I think he is serious, also a little ****ed in the head. He sounds a LOT like a guy I know...

Needs more

As for Hastings, it seems like he can't win at poker without a crutch of some kind, well,a cheating kind.
And talking about delusions omg:
"I love poker and I want to promote it, how dare you giving bad name to poker telling on the bad-name-giving things I do?"
You don't see that level of idiocy every day that's for sure.

you say none of your friends multi account, but earlier you say:

And I am aware you put "right thing" in quotation marks. I also noticed you put ANYONE in capitals

You obviously know people who have ma'ccounted and possibly still are.

Pokerstars should freeze the accounts of anyone having a transfer to or from the noel hayes account, an work backwards from there.

STOP EVADING THE PROFANITY FILTER

This thread has become a witch hunt. A whole bunch of sad NVG folk trying to burn down anyone associated with hastings, or anyone who recognizes this as one of the smaller offenses in online poker. Some knights templar just slaughtering anyone who doesn't share the viewpoint of "He is the most heinous of evils, burn him!" For this nonsense to get more attention than the botting thread is ridiculous.

This thread should have 1 post, it should say "Brian Hastings multi accounted playing high stakes on Pokerstars from the US." When PS decides what to do, their decision should be included. That should be it. US pros on VPNs aren't ever going to kill the pokerstars games, botting, will eventually end online poker. Ya'll can burn my effigy now.

Well there you go LOL.

Level playing field indeed.

I want to preface this by stating that I have no horse in this race. That said....

LOL at most of you NVGTards. Brian made a ****ty decision, yes. Should he be crucified? Hell no. Also, Vanessa is smarter(and a better player) than 99.9% of the ppl posting here, so LOL at all the vitriol being thrown her way. Sad state of affairs.

Carry on....

Who cares what selbst has to say anyways I think people are starting to realize Brian Hastings is a scum bag and they dont want a big name like selbst defending him for all the fanboys out there...Its fairly upsetting when he suggest people should not publicly out him because it would negatively affect poker..OK pal we should let you cheat for the good of the game

you know, even very smart people can be wrong.

People overestimate how bad it is for the game when scummy stuff like this happens. It's bad for Brian Hastings (whose reputation is pretty much ruined) but I'm not convinced that it actually hurts poker's popularity that much, if at all.

In fact, it could inadvertently help poker if it's the watershed moment that causes Pokerstars to get its **** together and take multi-accounting and other issues more seriously.

True. But, she's not wrong here. Lots of you are being very shortsighted. GL to all.

Because the goddamn site owners want it you ****ing idiots.

So everyone knock it the **** off.

Thank you, that's all I ask.

atleast we dont cheat...or think its bad to talk about...GL

I doubt he just bought one fake account im sure hes got back ups incase he gets a full on ban

any statement from stars yet?