I mostly agree with Vanessa btw. Most of the posts in here aren't about being productive, they're about making themselves feel better and letting off some steam.

Edit to above post, I should've said every HS reg, not every HS reg in here.

Some of us are honest and follow the rules, scary insight and almost strange to promote and industry you feel that way about.

Not that strange to promote the good aspects of it and work towards legislation and regulation which will prevent a lot of the MA'ing issues as well as lead to real legal consequences for people who cheat/steal in other ways.

Anyways I'm done hijacking this thread. I never wanted it to turn into that but I had no idea how many random personal attacks I was going to have to deal with. Please just carry on with the witch-hunts or whatever else.

Random personal attacks? You literally just called everyone on here a piece of **** because they didn't agree with you.

Vanessa your input to this thread is cringeworthy. Nobody has personally attacked you ffs, they have just disagreed with you.

Suprised at all these posts and you haven't once tried to play some sort of sexism card.

so much this. this thread is an amazing insight into some of the top players in the game. probably for the best if poker dies.

ha ha was thinking exactly that.

I guess spending too much time in your HS circlejerk clique will eventually corrupt your morals.

You wrote regular known scammers so i presumed you meant incidents that might occur on this forum that you seemed to be attacking regarding the references to giftcards. I compared it to small stakes collusion because I was surprised you didn't see that a high stakes high profile situation would naturally draw more attention to it than a small stakes case. I wasn't aware of any regular known scammers in the HS world. I know there are poor people to lend money to and you have to be careful when it comes to trading money and the like, but regular outright scams would be new to me.

Afaik, no one has claimed you benefit financially from any of this and whilst some of the posts are irrelevant and understandably tilting for you, I think you are absolutely wrong in every way on this issue. Just because other cheating exists, doesn't mean Stinger should be let off the hook.

When you say the worst offences are ignored for people who are willing to dump money, do you mean Guy and his history of having several accounts?
I would argue strongly that MAing in this situation is less damaging in this case and because of this it should be looked on as a lesser offence. I'm not saying its ideal, or not wrong, but the difference between a fish playing under an unknown name and a regular playing on an unknown name is way way different.

I don't think I've mentioned Mercier at any point in the thread. Its a very tough decision to make, but people have the right to feel angry about it if they choose to, and I don't think I can blame them for that.

P.S I did read your post but I had to infer a lot of things because as per you know lots of cases but are unwilling to talk about them. I'm sorry if my incorrect inferences upset you. And lol at calling anyone holier than thou

Crikey

THIS

Been saying it around here for over a year, professional poker players are generally absolute scumbags who leech of society/dodge tax and cheat . Then theres the BOTS and colluders I wish poker didnt have to die but yeah they are also going to kill it off for sure ...gg online poker it was fun for awhile

In this thread one pokerstars pro makes complete fool of self and reinforces general NVG opinion of how divorced from reality/morality the high stakes "community" is.
Lie down with dogs and you get fleas.

this thread really shows how useless team pokerstars is. just sack them and keep DN and the celebrities imo

well put

Stupid question: what was brian hasting original screenname on pokerstars?

If you cared about the game as a paid "representative" and professional in it should, all forms of cheating/duplicitous behavior -- no matter how big or small -- should offend you.

The best thing for poker is an EXPECTATION of higher standards from those that play it and represent it and a castigation/punishment of those that fail to meet those standards.

There will always be scumbags in all professions, but is it asking too much that their "scum-baggery" not be accepted/rationalized as "no big deal" by those PAID to represent the game?

Yeah I love seeing my rake going to guys like ronaldo who are worth literally hundreds of mirrions.

Its in the title..

Selbst and Mercier get their marching orders yet?

grunch o rama, but...

meh.... complaining about cheating in HS online is sort of like going to whore house and complaining about getting crabs. regardless if regulated or not, there will always be cheating and scams given dollar amounts being pushed around with clicks and the plethora of cheating opportunities created therein. nothing will ever change that.

if you are going to play in that world just accept you are at some point gonna get crabs.


Vanessa I think your heart is in the right place but same as above, if you are gonna play on 2+2 your gonna from time to time get the crabs. filter out and ignore the scrum bums. I am sure most here greatly appreciate your participation as well as that from other top pros.

It could be the case that you throw fuel on the fire and bring a lot of this on yourself with your aggressive, confrontational attitude. its not what you are saying but more how you are saying it.

To be fair, I posted in this thread mentioning that I played against him unknowingly and he PMed me to try to find a fair way to pay me back the equity he stole by cheating.

And this is while being a true random to Brian.

For the people that already knew the bracelet bet is obviously valid. For those that didn't it is definitely not. High stakes online mixed games basically don't run outside of stars. It is a huge difference betting on someone who might have gotten coaching, played live games, played in the stars games 2 years ago, played in untracked euro games, and someone who is actively playing the highest stakes games right now. Secretly getting coaching, playing in tough live games, whatever else within the rules is totally fine, breaking the site rules is not.

hilarious the amount of outrage against Brian but he deserves it! what he did was totally scummy and I remember during the Scoops asking myself where is Hastings at..as NoelHayes account was playing everyday but anyways guys Brian only plays live poker now lol and hes offering "HU coaching & lessons on how to win bracelets"

hxxps://instagram.com/p/4YTXSKHwo_/

he really could care less about this thread/being a MA scumbag

He is only paying people back after he got caught. That doesn't make it ok. If it never goes public then he doesn't pay people back. Also he is up a ton this summer so he can afford it. If he bricks the wsop does he still pay people back?

Here's a video of Rasva Hastings admitting he played underage but it's ok cause ultimate bet "had no rules"

https://www.pokertube.com/videos/bri...ving-in-europe