Look, no one is going to argue with the idea that, in order of culpability from MOST scummy to LEAST, the correct ranking is:
1) MA without telling anyone.
2) MA and tell as many people as possible.
3) Don't MA.

While I know it's the kind of intellectualism that makes for mature, interesting debate between YLS peers...this ain't New Haven, and trying to slice that onion while sidestepping the offensively egregious offense of MA'ing in the first place just isn't going to get much traction here, as you well know. And NVG doesn't like its red meat removed from the dinner table before they're good and done with it.
p.s. welcome back! figure we'll be seeing you again in 2017.

u havent thought it threw..on alot of sites u have more accounts which u can chance which makes huds useless and could spring back life into cashgames bekoz nobody has pre-reads on anybody

Fair enough. I remember you well from back in the good old days when you were. I was referencing those memories and the respect I have for you when I included you in my earlier post. Cheers.

No, it's really not. If it's in his contract to report any abuse he has knowledge about he should have reported it if he values his paycheck he collects from Amayastars, whether him and Brian are friends or not. I can't imagine a contract that doesn't have some sort of language like that in it. I could be mistaken. He'll most likely get a slap on the wrist until he runs out of steam with tourneys and throws up a big 0fer, then puts on bunch of weight and becomes unmarketable, in which case they'll fire him quietly.

no it doesn't, that's why everyone is so angry at what's been going on.

always strikes me as odd that people like you with so many posts in a short space of time are clearly against poker yet are always lurking around the poker community.

so you're saying you are that scummy business person? or would be if given the opportunity, and couldn't be arrested?

you're doing a great job of sounding scummy.

funny how the people who hate online poker because they think its scummy show how its actually them who are the scummy ones

So you saying jm was using the eireabu account?

stfu..u really gonna say that people who react in a cheating thread r worse then the cheaters?

That's part of the problem. It's an advantage for the select people that know and a huge disadvantage to the people that don't. So I don't think being honest to certain select people is necessarily an admirable course of action.

It is certainly a dilemma for US high stakes players. But in many walks of life and professions tough decisions and choices have to be made and the worst case scenario would be to make residence in Canada, Mexico, Europe or elsewhere. It's really not that bad an alternative for making a good living and doing something you love. A much better alternative than multi-accounting given the reaction herein and elsewhere, and given that it is against the TOCs and getting caught may result in irrevocable damage to a poker player's career.

Grunching but just some info:

The above case was the normal police, not the UKGC which is relatively new, but it's still a good counter-example IMHO.

Earlier the question was raised whether a site could refuse service to someone without evidence of wrongdoing:

UK (and presumably everywhere else) regulated gambling firms do this all the time when someone is winning at the sports book.

A friend of mine was picking up the pre-printed (and therefore unchangeable) odds coupons for football matches in the bookies and arbing matches against the market on Betfair - he wasn't very far up at all (4 figures IIRC not 5) before they just refused service and the process was repeated with different chains and phone bookies pretty quickly.

Obviously that's rare in poker because you are against other players, not the house, but there's no reason to think there is a specific law that makes poker an exception because it's all just gambling and they don't have to take your business.

guess you didn't read the post I just quoted before that where carl was saying he's glad bh did what he did. moran

i really hope he gets accused by english authority so he cant do bail...on a sidenote...u might wanna liquid a few 100k to ghet good lawyer noel hastings

read it all agin and ur right..no need for moran tho..kiss for roddy

he's sponsored by stars, knew about all of this and didnt give a f

plus he played the big games with noel hayes

Great ambassador of Poker eh.

Love how we all are the general poker players berating the pros for scummy stuff just like how 'The people' berate big politicians. I love it. Berate them at will for the scum they are!!!!

This might be a dumb idea, but if the wsop (and other live stuff) would ban online cheats, it may serve as a real deterrent to cheating. Up to this point there has never been any real consequences for cheating other than the occasional fund confiscation.

^^
not m,ent as diss but yeah dumb idea..companies would never deny anybody who has an entree fee

On this specific point - but the account had only played much lower. So unless people have been buying datamined hands then then it would surely appear to them as an unknown account so what's the distinction? (of course it appearing as unknown when there is asymmetry is also not ok until sn changes are allowed).

Now Hastings retweet glantz's joke about him MA, such a funny dude !

^Well there's the fact that it was someone's google-able actual name for a start.

@lektor read berri sweet distinction and ull see the point...he lost about 30k in equety bekoz he didnt knew it was hastings