I agree and BH put his sponsored "friends" in a bad spot by telling them.

I guess even enough public speculation about certain pros knowing who was behind the Noel Hayes acount could get them their contract not renewed.

Maybe thats what BH was talking about in the PM to Bakes

A few of the things that don't add up for the depressed guy who just wanted to play in the US and tried telling everyone he played with:

1. Playing in cash games with Bakes and Hotmark since February
2. Intentionally doing fishy plays at the beginning of sessions to get action

I still can't get over that PM lol

+1

Surely all sponsored players are contractually required to disclose cheating/ breaking of TOS if they know about it. If that isn't the case currently then it damn well should be going forward.

Obviously it seems like Brian has admitted to being him, but to say ^ when BigCityBanker has been posting on these forums since 2007 and played $25-$50, also written many articles for World Poker Tour Magazine including this one http://www.wptmag.com/strategy.php?articleID=14

I think you will find both a poker buddies.

odds a Stars pro has transfer history with the NoelHayes account?

and btw, i dont mind if there are hundres or thousands of people doing the same. it doesnt make it any better for me. i really hope starts takes legal actions against every single player MAing but i dont think it will happen.

Unfortunately, this game and the tenuous legal position it holds in many countries makes players need to self-regulate.

Obviously, that doesn't work. As sport has shown us time and time again, it's only with the specter of very strict penalties and perhaps jail time hanging over people's heads that anyone plays by the rules.

In situations where everyone's drawing their own lines in the sand, some will clearly choose to go further than others. Hastings is one guy who went very far, with a personality profile to match (akin to Lance Armstrong).

Of course there will be others in the game at the elite levels doing similar things to gain edges. It's much like top level pro athletes using performance enhancers. To be at the elite level, to make money, to gain an edge, many will do it.

Some won't, and some will choose to draw their line a bit closer to what we consider reasonable, if a bit gray.

Clearly, until there is strict enforcement in place, nothing will truly change because players cannot and will not self police.

Spot on.

He obviously knew he could share information of him playing the NoelHayes account with quite a number of other pros, because they would see no issue with it as they quite likely do or would do the same.

Prove Stinger didn't write that article! haha

Okay so maybe he can beat 50$, but even though it has been confirmed BH, there was still no way it was ever Hayes himself and ridic to suggest he could have done so. And how long is it since we know for a fact he played 25/50? There is a big difference between having played 25/50 and actually being a reg there. A 5/10 reg from years ago played a few hands @ 25/50 would be a fish in today's 1/2 games.

The players he won money off should get together and sue Hastings/Stars, whoever.

Actually more inclined to think it was Joey who wrote that article given all the back door quad draw strat in the article back in 2009 which was when the article was written.

from article

LOL @ the inference Stars can/will take legal action. Their only option is to close accounts, confiscate funds, and ban players.

I agree with earlier posters, the interesting thing would be to figure out what Stars pros knew, if they had involvement, and how Stars will handle that.

Lol!

And yeah, article from 09! A current 25/50 PLO reg would be a massive winner if he could transport his skills back to 09.

Man, you have a wild imagination.

Stinger had zero to do with Eire Abu.
Harrington was certainly not Eire Abu.
Grimason was certainly not Eire Abu.

Damned thread is massive. Why do I always get linked to this stuff way too late damnit.

lol you guys care way more than i did and i promise i lost way more money than any of you from games with him :$

I believe there is 1 factual inaccuracy here....

Id rather have players who played those games and didnt know sue BH+those who knew+whoever

that's the problem, players involved don't even care. of course, you have been involved with shady guys in the past so why would you be mad for this at all.

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well, maybe ps cant, but some countries take this kind of actions seriously. if a british player who played against him sued hastings and the guy who let him play in his account (or sold it), they would be in huge trouble.

This whole sordid business could be about to get very ugly indeed.

If (big IF) the NoelHayes account was "rented out" to several players (not just Hastings), who else used it, and who knew? I'd be very surprised if it's only Hastings and Noel Hayes himself that are implicated. PokerStars has a high stakes cluster**** on its hands, and the biggest beneficiary will probably be Sheldon Adelson.

but then again u probably find this sort of stuff normal and did/do it urself being a HS player and all...im not even surprised u think its ok...plus how long did u know it and kept silent?

Because money is all that's important to you, right?

Nobody expects a cheat to have any other opinion.