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Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post. Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post.

06-26-2015 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
theres just a lot of things that don't add up to me like i said

1- selling for 10k scoop main (he could sell to hundreds of people offline wtf do it online) (why even sell at all when you're going to bet huge amounts later. he's even cross booking vs fedor in nl tourneys for 100k outlays!!

2- ireland? wut?

3- noelhayes, wut?

4- playing very unlike bh in lots and lots of spots.
come on, it's clearly him. he's as much as admitted it, and joey said he and everyone else new by the start of the wsop.
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06-26-2015 , 09:56 AM
here is a tournament Noel Hayes played.. 10r in 2013.. No other tournaments around there, just fancied playing a 10r one night after work I guess

http://www.sharkscope.com/#Find-Tour...ents/707010645

randomly one night played 55$ omaha mtt in august last year before everything, one tournament, nothing else for the whole month. Again likely just fancied a punt

http://www.sharkscope.com/#Find-Tour...ents/944974477


once september comes, account is taken over/played a lot on and played very regularly (same time as noelhayes leaves job getting paid off for millions)



Whatever though, in 2013 there was a guy with an Account from Ireland called NoelHayes that was based in Ireland playing 10r on a random night. This wasn't an account that was sold to anybody that night. Its very likely this is actually NoelHayes account. Maybe he was sharing the account with Hastings, but again seems really weird how they would be connected.

Why would he have the motive to sell his account to Hastings full time either?

Wow wait a minute, 3 days before the tournament activity with NoelHayes starts EireAbu stops playing tournaments?

http://www.sharkscope.com/#Find-Tour...ents/919442822

EireAbu has lots of big MTT wins etc and has played 6000+ MTTs, he was based in Ireland and was unknown right? Where did he disappear to and is it just coincidence he just disappeared once Hayes appeared.
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06-26-2015 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
I'm not sure a regulated gaming site could ban a player for whatever reason they wanted or none at all. This isn't a restaurant or a clothing store where they can deny service to anyone for any reason. I have a feeling a good lawyer could make a very good case as to why BH should be able to play regulated sites from regulated locations regardless of what may or may not have unregulated sites in the past. Apples and oranges.
my memory is a bit fuzzy, but there was a thread (internet poker sub forum) where some reg claimed he was banned w/o giving a reason and he was super frustrated. maybe the whole situation was resolved, but as far as i followed the thread, it was basically like PS (and any other room) could say no to a player w/o a reason - best example are the banned winning players on one of the smaller networks (well they where told a reason ^^)

sure a good lawyer might help in some situations, but there are probably hundreds of "skilled players" banned in b&m casinos in the usa (which are imo better regulated) and i never heard a case, where a good lawyer went to court to enforce a "right to play".

besides that ... even BH will be banned, it doesn't mean that ruling is set in stone, so you're right, that bh could be playing on regulated sites in the future
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06-26-2015 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by roddy
come on, it's clearly him. he's as much as admitted it, and joey said he and everyone else new by the start of the wsop.
It definitely was him at least some of the time (8 game w Bakes as admitted, nosebleeds, etc.).

He may have let someone else, perhaps the actual account owner, play at other times.
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06-26-2015 , 10:02 AM
I hope Brian snaps and blows the lid off this whole thing.
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06-26-2015 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
he hasn't admitted it.

1- theres close to 0% chance he knows who noelhayes is / would choose that avatar, its a really big in joke because of who he is etc
hayes friends must have set it up


may be ask him!


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...9&postcount=86
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06-26-2015 , 10:06 AM
People saying that he hasn't admitted it clearly have some reading comprehension issues.
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06-26-2015 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NerdSuperfly
my memory is a bit fuzzy, but there was a thread (internet poker sub forum) where some reg claimed he was banned w/o giving a reason and he was super frustrated. maybe the whole situation was resolved, but as far as i followed the thread, it was basically like PS (and any other room) could say no to a player w/o a reason - best example are the banned winning players on one of the smaller networks (well they where told a reason ^^)

sure a good lawyer might help in some situations, but there are probably hundreds of "skilled players" banned in b&m casinos in the usa (which are imo better regulated) and i never heard a case, where a good lawyer went to court to enforce a "right to play".

besides that ... even BH will be banned, it doesn't mean that ruling is set in stone, so you're right, that bh could be playing on regulated sites in the future
Well ya, merge network will straight up tell ya ur banned or drop the # of tables a player can play for winning too much, WPN is laughable in almost every area other than cashier stuff, the way the offshore unregulated sites currently operate would not fly with regulators aniec. As far as a licensed card room or casino banning a player for no reason, I'm also not sure that's legal etc, I live in so cal and heave never heard of or seen such a thing. Every time somebody is banned or given a time out there is a reason. I've seen all sorts of players that I'd imagine the casino/card room didn't like there but if you ban somebody for no legit reason seems to me like opening yourself up to a discrimination lawsuit from a random player. Of course PS could be proactive and suggest sites applying for regulation share blacklists or banned players and carry it forward into regulated markets and give BH a lifetime ban to make an example, set a precedent sort of thing.. I'm just spitballin here. Just my opinions.
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06-26-2015 , 10:10 AM
I remembered Jared Bleznick (Harrington25 - known multiaccounter) was on poker after dark with Hastings and quick creepy detective work shows they are fb friends.

furthermore jared is friends with multiple irish poker players on Facebook (and coincidentally david williams)


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Last week, Andrew “EireAbu” Grimason took over the top spot on PokerStars’ yearly leaderboard with almost $1.3 million in profit. Unfortunately for him, his reign lasted just one week as Ben “Sauce123” Sulsky continued his heater.

Grimason/NoelHayes mutual friends too

http://www.pokernetwork.com/news/the...reabu-atop.htm

Moving on slightly further Grimason and Bleznick also mutual friends on fb and not many/no other US regs.

So my long winded theory is that Harrington25 somehow set up the whole thing through NoelHayes who had an account with good credit history (rich guy probably punted in past for fun) as Harrington has a lot of links in Ireland and successfully made EireAbu work. Harrington/Hastings friends and Hastings wanted to get back on to play online and knows Harrington is the goat at getting all of that set up.

Maybe others were playing on the account at times, who knows.

Very possibly wrong, but kinda fun to think about.
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06-26-2015 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Great, now Hastings ruined poker for all of America.

I'm not even being sarcastic.
So once again STOP making a big deal out of it and maybe it won't be so public and maybe it won't ruin poker??? Whatcha think??
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06-26-2015 , 10:15 AM
Leave Brian alone and let him promote the game!

Brian Hastings ‏@brianchastings · 4h4 hours ago
Bagged 38k in 1500 Dealer's Choice, restart 2pm tomorrow, about 75ish players left
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06-26-2015 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
So once again STOP making a big deal out of it and maybe it won't be so public and maybe it won't ruin poker??? Whatcha think??
Is that a level or are you stupid?
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06-26-2015 , 10:17 AM
Wowwww no ****. I followed NoelHayes all of SCOOP since I saw that account run deep in everything. Go figure.

It's one of those things where it's like can you really be surprised he took an unethical approach to this? Oh well
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06-26-2015 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Getupdayard
hayes friends must have set it up


may be ask him!


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...9&postcount=86

yeah but there needs to be a link, Hayes is a very successful Irish guy, he's thousands of miles away from Hastings. Jared being the middle guy between it all makes logical sense.

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Originally Posted by BigCityBanker
bleh - lost too many races today and gone in 30th. Kevin Allen rivered a 6 outer for all his chips against me a few hours ago, his 99 then held against my A10 to send me packing. He is now chip leader and im at home on my counch drinking tea.

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=39404


Ok so NoelHayes account/BigCityBanker is 100000% NoelHayes original account.
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06-26-2015 , 10:18 AM


any comment?
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06-26-2015 , 10:20 AM
wouldnt want to be in jason mercier shoes atm,being a stars sponsor pro and being aware of someone breaking the rules and not saying anything about it......wonder how stars feels about it.especially when it includes someone playing illegally from the usa.
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06-26-2015 , 10:21 AM
I thought this was common knowledge by now
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06-26-2015 , 10:21 AM
The SN BigCityBanker dropped over 100k on a Euro site around a year ago!
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06-26-2015 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gabbkk
wouldnt want to be in jason mercier shoes atm,being a stars sponsor pro and being aware of someone breaking the rules and not saying anything about it......wonder how stars feels about it.especially when it includes someone playing illegally from the usa.
its not very fair though is it? its really hard to blame jason on this.
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06-26-2015 , 10:25 AM
Can someone help me with how I go about posting an image in this thread?
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06-26-2015 , 10:25 AM
I find it funny he's playing the WSOP and that he's on twitter like nothing's up. This guy is besides a cheat also a douche with no remorse whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by whitecollar1234
I have watched this unfold in shocked disbelief!
This is not an allegation it is a fact that Brian Hastings played on the Noelhayes account. A fact I am willing to prove with evidence. This was something I was reluctant to do but the arrogance of Brian and the silence of Noel is disgusting!
Cheating is cheating and deceiving is deceiving let it be for $1 or $1000000.
Brian has history and as for Noel, well given the posts he held with Paddypower and Tote he should know the wrongs of this!
The fact I have heard both in the past be critics of similar actions by others just makes it all more stomach churning.
As soon as I have pm's available i will pm both and ask for a response if they refuse I will post said evidence and confirmation of their actions.
Please don't hold back now. The poker community deserves to know what more this cheater has been up to.
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06-26-2015 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by restorativejustice
Is that a level or are you stupid?
Level?? No idea what u are saying. The bigger this becomes the more likely it becomes an issue to work against online poker. So dknt make a big deal about it. Let ps deal with it
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06-26-2015 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
So once again STOP making a big deal out of it and maybe it won't be so public and maybe it won't ruin poker??? Whatcha think??
other side of the coin is this is perhaps the greatest case lobbying for player protection from other players(not sites) I've heard of yet. The logic that the same thing would happen via Teamviewer or skype on a 2nd cpu not connected to the cpu logged into the poker site in a regulated environment with a live person operating the poker games is deterred by criminal charges being included in the legislation for igaming. As in if this were to happen in CA post regulation there would be at least 2 people looking at jail time and hefty fines.

In a regulated environment it would no longer be +EV even at the highest stakes for this type of thing to happen. As it stands now people are soliciting VPN's itt haha!
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06-26-2015 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
its not very fair though is it? its really hard to blame jason on this.
where was I blaming him? B-H put him in an awful spot by being a scumbag and now this could backfire on others. KINd of feel bad for jason.doubt amaya will let this go considering how tight ass theyve been with the doj and vpning or what ever from the usa.
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06-26-2015 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
its not very fair though is it? its really hard to blame jason on this.
Yeah I think blaming people he told is kind of absurd.

Even Mercier, a Stars Pro, doesn't work for Stars Security. It isn't his job to be a whistle blower, his job is to represent the site. Seems idiotic to put any blame on him.
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