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Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post. Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post.

06-26-2015 , 05:29 AM
if you want to stop the cheating. Have consequences; simple as that. Seems like there wont be any so the rampant cheating will continue.
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06-26-2015 , 05:32 AM
Maybe schwein will go after Multi-Accounts after finishing off the bots? Then more of them are caught and there is more risk to actually cheat.

He should be able to pinpoint these new suspicious accounts quite fast.

Hastings playing the NoelHayes account is similar to urindanger-barcode playing socustief a few years ago for a brief period. When the account with some lowstakes playing history suddenly played 100x bigger.
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06-26-2015 , 05:41 AM
Hope the tax man goes after him
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06-26-2015 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by k i d`
eh, i don't wan't to derail this thread, but i been going over this hand for a while now given a top player like BS posted it, and i just don't get it. Don't get the play nor the thinking behind it nor reason he posted this hand in particular ITT

BERRI or anyone wanna explain?
I'm pretty sure BerrySweet ment that he would have played the hand differently if he had known it was in fact hastings playing, instead of having to presume it was a micro stakes value player who happened to be rich enough or won enough somewhere to play these shot take these stakes. Hence, he wouldn't 4 bet hastings here but he night/would and in fact did 4 bet a fish who's more likely to give him respect or whatnot
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06-26-2015 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 5=2+2
I would have a hunch that Sauce has always been 100% straight. Probably Ike too and many more. I can also honestly say I have never angle shot either, but I'm not a big name. A lot of people actually are honest.
lol the mvp of the thread has cited a "hunch" that sauce, ike, etc have never broke stars tos
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06-26-2015 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by moki
Brian, this is what being a stand-up guy looks like.


Stop vouching for poker player you dont even know, will some of you ever ****ing learn?
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06-26-2015 , 06:38 AM
LOL money.....
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06-26-2015 , 06:46 AM
Anyone now less inclined to believe the "official" version of the $4m isildur session now?
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06-26-2015 , 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by epcfast
Anyone now less inclined to believe the "official" version of the $4m isildur session now?
Not really. Not sure what else could have happened? I can't imagine it would be that easy to collude in real time playing 6 tables of HU PLO at warp speed.

Pretty sure what he said happened there happened.
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06-26-2015 , 07:04 AM
cliffs on joey's recent video?
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06-26-2015 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Calm Down
cliffs on joey's recent video?
- Brian told most opponents that it was him behind the NoelHayes account
- Most people are cheating accept it
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06-26-2015 , 07:20 AM
Guys I don't understand what Hastings has to do with any of this. Noel Hayes is a well known shrewd operator in the gambling industry in Ireland.

He recently came into a lot of money after selling a racehorse for a seven-figure profit. He's been a man of leisure ever since. I have personally seen him out and about in Dublin in designer suits, splashing the cash and generally living a playboy lifestyle. You can see his posts on IrishPokerBoards where he is asking for advise on where to get all the best things in life. He's made a load of brag posts about his mahogany desk and brand new BMW. He even bought a wifi ****ing kettle - sterling silver! Someone wrote a song based on one of his ludicrous nouveau riche posts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ6h...ature=youtu.be

Anyway, it is no surprise to me that he's now beating high stakes. Noel has excelled at everything he's turned his hand to. If he was a casual player before this it was because he played for entertainment and didn't take it seriously. It's clear to me that he's now putting in the time and effort required to beat the game, and all this palaver is just sour grapes from players who can't believe anyone - even an exceptional man like Noel Hayes - could improve so much in so short a time.


Edit: Song looks to be no longer available :-/ shame.
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06-26-2015 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyFB
Guys I don't understand what Hastings has to do with any of this. Noel Hayes is a well known shrewd operator in the gambling industry in Ireland.

He recently came into a lot of money after selling a racehorse for a seven-figure profit. He's been a man of leisure ever since. I have personally seen him out and about in Dublin in designer suits, splashing the cash and generally living a playboy lifestyle. You can see his posts on IrishPokerBoards where he is asking for advise on where to get all the best things in life. He's made a load of brag posts about his mahogany desk and brand new BMW. He even bought a wifi ****ing kettle - sterling silver! Someone wrote a song based on one of his ludicrous nouveau riche posts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ6h...ature=youtu.be

Anyway, it is no surprise to me that he's now beating high stakes. Noel has excelled at everything he's turned his hand to. If he was a casual player before this it was because he played for entertainment and didn't take it seriously. It's clear to me that he's now putting in the time and effort required to beat the game, and all this palaver is just sour grapes from players who can't believe anyone - even an exceptional man like Noel Hayes - could improve so much in so short a time.


Edit: Song looks to be no longer available :-/ shame.
Its post's like this that protect scumbags like Noel Hayes and Brian Hastings. If noel has that much money he'd be over in vegas playing all the wsop high stakes and cash. Just cause he brags about having more money than he probably does , doesnt mean jack. If it was him he'd be everywhere fluanting it. Did you even read the full thread? And would I be right to presume you play irish circuit, you sold a for a tourney in canada that you won a couple of years back.and you post as andyf#tba*×#rd on irish poker boards?
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06-26-2015 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyFB
Guys I don't understand what Hastings has to do with any of this.
Apart from admitting that he played on the NoelHayes account you mean?
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06-26-2015 , 07:55 AM
Can people stip using the phrase 'sour grapes' its rly stupid.. And it tilts the F out of me
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06-26-2015 , 08:00 AM
I have watched this unfold in shocked disbelief!
This is not an allegation it is a fact that Brian Hastings played on the Noelhayes account. A fact I am willing to prove with evidence. This was something I was reluctant to do but the arrogance of Brian and the silence of Noel is disgusting!
Cheating is cheating and deceiving is deceiving let it be for $1 or $1000000.
Brian has history and as for Noel, well given the posts he held with Paddypower and Tote he should know the wrongs of this!
The fact I have heard both in the past be critics of similar actions by others just makes it all more stomach churning.
As soon as I have pm's available i will pm both and ask for a response if they refuse I will post said evidence and confirmation of their actions.
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06-26-2015 , 08:03 AM
I may have missed it but has there been a response from Stars or tilt in relation to this?
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06-26-2015 , 08:05 AM
A lot of scoreboards are way off on this one. There is a range of situations where it matters on just who and what is going on and the severity of offense is hinged on. I agree to disagree with disagreers. (Bold opinions are a freeroll to the listener; generous of the speaker)

If stinger MA's to play nosebleed mixed games and people like sauce, pfa or thuritz found out; let's just say they would be delighted. Same for huge Nl. Also, if this were an era where huds weren't so powerful than it would be a much bigger deal. That statement is in fact nullified if NH had prior history is fishy **** play. However bottomline, you see a name with no history you know it's a pro who has been around.

I have a lack of respect for trying to pull a victim card when you have super powerful tools to use to improve or exploit opponents at super rapid rates. You either are going to master the off the table analysis with max effort and precision and win or half-ass it and lose unless you are playing the very top tier. The scoreboard is reading you get a phd in poker or you gtfo. If you are butthurt by that assertion, then that's even more of a reason to just get out of poker. For a mix game player to complain about hastings being in his game incredibly weak to anyone who knows the high stakes mixed scoreboard is laughable.

If an actually recreational fish did it, silence, why should the select few people get a say when he's logged many many hours in -ev situations and when the other range of opponents can so easily figure out when they are in breakeven situations because of how quick you can get to the point where you'd play NH and BH the same. If you don't agree with this than online poker is not for you. This is me looking out for you without any incentives and the reality of the situation. I myself go through hoops to play on my own account that is well-known to appease people knowing damn well that they'd play the same vs me regardless of account name after a long day of grinding.

You should always go through life where things like this either don't affect you a damn or you are plugged in. You will be much better off the sooner you have this conviction.

This will come as poor taste if NH had huge history as being a fish and that would be worth an apology. This era is not for people who play the victim role though.

Bosses who deal with this issue and stick to their guns deserve recognition and should be honored, but never given sympathy and I just don't think any equity should be given unless they want to start paying an independent group of people to run an ethics committee with rulings.
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06-26-2015 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by roddy
you really have to stop accusing people of things with no evidence, because you just don't like them. or better yet just stop posting.
+1 You have no idea the impact "ripple affect" a small remark like this can have on someone's rep. I'm sure people can see you just have no clue, but to try to sully someone's reputation in the poker is way out of line, especially which no evidence, and it seems you have none. Stop hating on CTS and focus on hastings the actually cheat that's got caught with his hand in the cookie jar!!!
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06-26-2015 , 08:29 AM
Would have been even more disgusting if he was playing against Makarov online, and then still had the nerve to call out LuckyGump for angleshooting in 10-game.

Makarov take meeting with the Bratva.
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06-26-2015 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
I've followed this all along, caught up with a lot while listening to the CA state assembly hearing about the state being prepared to regulate igaming. VPN's and account security was a major talking point, with the experts saying the situation in the thread is pretty much impossible in a regulated market and they could prove it.
Something that keeps occurring to me that I've not seen mentioned, is that I'm not sure Amaya/Stars would even be able to enforce a ban on BH based on what happened here in a regulated environment. As in fine, they ban BH now but when they come to the US(or other providers) he's back in the game. I'm thinking that if/when anybody gets licensed in the US it's a fresh slate for players and BH and others could contact gaming commission/lawyers to get accounts instated etc, could be messy. I'm assuming he has gotten legal advice on the matter. AmayaStars can ban him now and he can do the same thing next week, probably wouldn't fly under the radar for so long. Im a ss STT/MTT player and I was offered foreign accounts, have played using a VPN on several euro sites on my own accounts or new ones created for me over 2 years ago, it's not very hard. Never on PS though but just because I was scared etc.
it's obvious, that anti poker conservatives will use such stories, no doubt

anywy ... i'm not sure why is everyone saying BH used a vpn ... i was explained (obv i could misunderstood this), that there's a difference between an vpn and someone using a computer in another country via remote software?

besides that, PS can ban (or not accept) players and don't need a reason. as for all ppl wondering why no official person has shown up itt ... u can't recall a case, where such investigations/results were made public (imo they aren't even allowed to talk about this due to IOM laws [as like the vpn thing, i could be wrong here])
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06-26-2015 , 08:47 AM
I'm still not convinced.

Lets say Brian IS NoelHayes, how the hell does he know wtf NoelHayes is? He is a random Irish dude who likes racehorseing, even the avatar etc, its just far from the persona that Hasting would go for right?

So lets say he is doing it, the guys running these VPN rings are super scummy too. It shouldn't be too difficult to find out who the middle guy is between Hastings and an Irish account. Was Hasings also EireAbu? He played HSPLO too right?

I remember railing my friend in a 2k final table and this Noel Hayes guy was playing extremely fishy. I think I remember him flatting really, really bad hands in spots where he was a shorter stack etc and we all were 100% convinced he was a big fish. I remember a heated argument between friends after that he was/wasnt a fish, in the NL tournament he was definitely doing undeniably bad things. I'm not sure if the account was shared and Hastings played sometimes but I would bet a lot of money that wasn't him playing the $2k SCOOP final table.

Lets say it was Hastings, what happens to all the money stars will obviously take away? Do the $s get filtered down through the final table? Or the whole field or how exactly is it?

Agree Joey's stance is pretty sad to hear. He was always the voice for the players and he's saying that its not a big deal at all and he thinks the only problem is that 2p2 hates Brian rather than 2p2 hating MA.

Assuming Hastings never cashed out money from the account how much are we assuming is on the account? How did they get $ on the account in the first place? Its tough to just make a random account from Ireland and get through all the deposits with no verification. Maybe Mercier sent the money and thats how he knew about the SN etc.

If Hastings did play on the account and told Mercier it puts Mercier in an awful situation, think its a little unfair to really go after him, he was put in very awkward situation.

I think that the story will be that it wasn't Hastings, but he knows who it was, maybe he helped the account or something IDK, but it doesn't all add up to me.

Bracelet bets not scummy imo. He could have very easily spent 10 hours/day studying for the last 4 years.
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06-26-2015 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
I would bet a lot of money that wasn't him playing the $2k SCOOP final table.
will book any amount you want
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06-26-2015 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
I think that the story will be that it wasn't Hastings, but he knows who it was, maybe he helped the account or something IDK, but it doesn't all add up to me.
So why would he tell a bunch of HS players that he was playing on the account?

This has been confrimed.
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06-26-2015 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by NerdSuperfly
it's obvious, that anti poker conservatives will use such stories, no doubt

anywy ... i'm not sure why is everyone saying BH used a vpn ... i was explained (obv i could misunderstood this), that there's a difference between an vpn and someone using a computer in another country via remote software?

besides that, PS can ban (or not accept) players and don't need a reason. as for all ppl wondering why no official person has shown up itt ... u can't recall a case, where such investigations/results were made public (imo they aren't even allowed to talk about this due to IOM laws [as like the vpn thing, i could be wrong here])
I'm not sure a regulated gaming site could ban a player for whatever reason they wanted or none at all. This isn't a restaurant or a clothing store where they can deny service to anyone for any reason. I have a feeling a good lawyer could make a very good case as to why BH should be able to play regulated sites from regulated locations regardless of what may or may not have unregulated sites in the past. Apples and oranges.
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