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Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post. Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post.

06-25-2015 , 09:48 PM
So are there any updates on this subject?? Any FACTS? Hastings is as quiet as a church mouse on sunday.
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06-25-2015 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by xFlex
So are there any updates on this subject?? Any FACTS? Hastings is as quiet as a church mouse on sunday.
BH pmed Bakes and basically confessed. You can find the PM posted by Bakes
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06-25-2015 , 09:54 PM
hwg go..http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29.../index133.html

Joey is going to do a podcast about it now, mods delete if un needed, just wanted to get link here for people following this and not the whole forum
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06-25-2015 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gausspoker
BH pmed Bakes and basically confessed. You can find the PM posted by Bakes
Yeah. And to be precise, he didn't just basically confess: he straight up confessed

Last sentence of last paragraph. And I wonder if he means that he was going to not play online poker anymore, change to a third account, or what
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06-25-2015 , 10:04 PM
Def sucks... I relocated & always have played on my own name. I makes me sick how much I have lost to people cheating me out of money. I bet it is a lot.

I played 100/200 with Noel Hayes for months before I found out who it was & I had mixed feelings mostly because I figured it was a multi account & it was prob would have played in the game even if I knew it was stinger. MA'ing is just so accepted these days and it is sad. Gboro did it, I assume VanceVanilla was some US boss too.

If they want to play on their real account from the US then go ahead, but Brian doing this vs people who he has lots of history with & not saying anything sucks. Yo homie Bakes and I have Facebook. I have met you before. Obv you know who we are. Why no message? Why book bets vs people without complete information? Obv it's shady...

Anyone that expends too much energy worrying about stopping this is wasting their time. You can't control it. Unfortunately we work in a scummy industry where your bottom line can be directly linked to your personal ethics. It's +EV to be unethical and it won't stop. I'm owed 5x my net worth & I have been cheated, stolen from & lied to by too many pigeons to keep throwing fits about this stuff. If you don't want to get scum'ed don't play poker for a living. If you don't want to get MA'ed against don't play online poker. I accept the cheating & try to hope I am +EV enough to counteract it.
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06-25-2015 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by murph8788
I'm not even going to bother reading all of this. Like I said it's simple. Is insider trading illegal? Yes. Does it give the party an unfair advantage over the competition? Yes. Is multiaccounting illegal? Yes. Does it give the party and unfair advantage over the competition? Yes

Decided to read that nonsense. Your knowledge of insider trading is really lacking. A building exploding is immediately public information. It is not insider trading to trade on that. The market will correct itself shortly. Insider trading would be when a doctor involved in a trial decides to reveal phase 3 trial results to one firm when this information is not release to the public yet. Can't believe I had to explain that
The SEC itself tried to say the building exploding was not public information. Are you arguing you know more than the SEC about what is insider trading?

Because the SEC says all insider trading is not illegal (after being beaten over the head by multiple court decisions).

http://www.sec.gov/answers/insider.htm

What makes insider trading illegal is vague, complex and subject to court opinion.
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06-25-2015 , 10:16 PM
Im surprised everyone on here is so shocked and appalled that a professional gambler would have a few ethics violations. There isn't one top player present or past that is morally perfect. In fact, Chip Reese, who everyone considers to be the most honest player, probably (certainly are a lot of rumors) bent a few rules with Doyle in the past. So to try to burn someone at the stake seems overly harsh and hypocritical. Can someone name a player they think is perfect morally or has never bent or angle shot?
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06-25-2015 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lithium003
Im surprised everyone on here is so shocked and appalled that a professional gambler would have a few ethics violations. There isn't one top player present or past that is morally perfect. In fact, Chip Reese, who everyone considers to be the most honest player, probably (certainly are a lot of rumors) bent a few rules with Doyle in the past. So to try to burn someone at the stake seems overly harsh and hypocritical. Can someone name a player they think is perfect morally or has never bent or angle shot?
I would have a hunch that Sauce has always been 100% straight. Probably Ike too and many more. I can also honestly say I have never angle shot either, but I'm not a big name. A lot of people actually are honest.
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06-25-2015 , 10:25 PM
What a ****ing psychopath.
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06-25-2015 , 10:26 PM
Joey... "It is what it is..." Come on, that seems like a cop out. We know it is what it is. That's not the question. The question is is it right or is it wrong? I'm pretty sure the people who got screwed feel like they have the answer to that question.
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06-25-2015 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 5=2+2
I would have a hunch that Sauce has always been 100% straight. Probably Ike too and many more. I can also honestly say I have never angle shot either, but I'm not a big name. A lot of people actually are honest.

Maybe those two never played on any other account ever (though I think thats unlikely too), but I just find it hard to believe that even Ike or Sauce NEVER had anyone watching over their shoulder or NEVER watched over someone else's shoulder and gave advice or received advice while playing. No one is that much of an angel.
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06-25-2015 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AllJackedUp
Please stop pointing out that there is cheating in online poker because then people will distrust online poker.
I do not trust online poker because people cheat in online poker.
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06-25-2015 , 10:44 PM
If he was playing deliberately worse at first then it is way worse imo. Obv impossible to prove but that is ridiculous if true.

Tbh nothing would surprise me anymore in poker.
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06-25-2015 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DesertCat
The SEC itself tried to say the building exploding was not public information. Are you arguing you know more than the SEC about what is insider trading?

Because the SEC says all insider trading is not illegal (after being beaten over the head by multiple court decisions).

http://www.sec.gov/answers/insider.htm

What makes insider trading illegal is vague, complex and subject to court opinion.
I can't tell if you don't know the difference between illegal insider trading and the legal "insider trading" when insiders (CEO's employees etc) buy stock in their own company. They use the same term for totally different concepts if you weren't aware. Someone help me out here and let this guy know he's off.

Also please send me article or whatever where a building exploding would be insider trading please

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06-25-2015 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
If Isildur was unaware of Noelhayes being stinger and they played 300/600 HU then that's absolutely ridiculously unethical. Like, straight up indefensible in every way and Hastings should be shunned from poker.

HU nosebleeds vs an unknown who actually is the biggest winner in history vs you
I agree with this; if Blom didn't know it was Hastings playing him, it's indefensible. I also find Hasting's attempts to squash the discussion of this by saying it "isn't in the best interests of poker" is absurd.

No, Brian. The problem isn't discussing this, it's you causing the situation in the first place.
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06-25-2015 , 11:12 PM
I remember when BH shared h/h w/ townsend and owned isildur. Since then, I've always disliked the guy. ChicagoJoey was always like, "we got a lot of love for Brian Hastings. If you don't got any love for Brian Hastings the live stream has no love for you." I will say now what I said back then, *** Brian Hastings.
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06-25-2015 , 11:17 PM
Scumbags going to scumbag
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06-25-2015 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
I told him I didn't want to know about it if it was him. Obviously a lot of people were talking about it online. There are many other players still very active in the high stakes world who knew way more about it than I did.

I'm not sure what people would expect me to do if I had known for sure.
Thanks for the response and the podcast Joey.
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06-25-2015 , 11:24 PM
reading stinger´s Posts makes me so fckn angry. imagine he goes deep in the one drop or main... In case he does, I will book a flight to vegas just to antirail him
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06-25-2015 , 11:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X58uNFnFdbg

Last edited by elgrindo; 06-25-2015 at 11:27 PM. Reason: joeingram1 youtube
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06-25-2015 , 11:29 PM
A bit off topic-

What's the difference between someone multi-accounting and someone watching another person play, discussing the hands and telling them what to do?

It just seems like the latter is accepted by some while the former is not.
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06-25-2015 , 11:45 PM
I hope this is stars response to his accounts

Spoiler:
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06-25-2015 , 11:46 PM
Asking for specific VPN information or services or offering of the same is not allowed on 2p2.

I've already deleted one such post in this thread.

The next offender will get banned.

Only warning.
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06-25-2015 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
Asking for specific VPN information or services or offering of the same is not allowed on 2p2.

I've already deleted one such post in this thread.

The next offender will get banned.

Only warning.
Maybe put it on the title or something? Not everyone will read your post.
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06-25-2015 , 11:52 PM
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