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Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post. Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post.

06-25-2015 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by COG
Bakes, why did you hold on the the info so long and wait so long to out him? Seems kinda hypocritical
I think hypocritical would be a situation where you were sponsored by a poker site like PokerStars, knew about a person blatantly multiaccounting and breaking the TOS, and did nothing about it

I am bringing this information to light ~3 weeks after I got it. Some people had it for months and months. I had to prepare for the series and travel from Europe, but it has been on my mind for sure.

I didn't know quite what my line would be , but once I saw our hero calling out others for improprieties, I felt like saying something
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06-25-2015 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bakes
The simple fact is that many 'high profile' players play on their own screen name. I could give a **** where they play from, as others stated ITT, US law is total bull****

But plenty manage to do it without playing on another name

And if you think that Brian was doing this in equitable fashion, then simply lol
came here to post this. ive heard of many players vpning on their own screen name. its annoying losing to them and i get urges to report them to stars, but what they are doing is fine. the state is an open air prison where you dont even have the freedom to choose what you put in your own body, or do with your own money. **** their laws. i dont want to go into a rant, im not mad at the world, its certainly progress and is getting better daily. #buybitcoin

stars should confiscate all funds and he should pay restitution for every dollar he won, imo.
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06-25-2015 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AceCR9
...is being broke with a clean conscience really worth it?
Whats that got to do with (pressumably) one of the most successful players of recent times preferring to be able to get blowjobs while grinding then go round for dinner at his parents.

Again, its not like if he didnt do it hed be out on the street.

I can somewhat understand how someone whos financially desperate can end up in a situation like this, although I dont think they should be treated any differently.

But he just did it cos he doesn't see the problem in ****ing people over to make his life easier. Which is what douchebags do.

The whole, omg keep it quiet im Brain Hastings and you could RUIN poker by ruining my rep is almost the funniest delusion i've seen over the years on 2+2. And there have been some whoppers!
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06-25-2015 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ToDeepToFold
It was an especially genius move using an account that was actually someones name, a recognised name in the gambling industry as well!!

Trust Noel or whoever owned the account to begin with is loving all this attention!!
Not genius. It's more on the same level as check raise bluffing. I suspected the Noel account as being MA as soon as he started playing the big mixed games. Didn't think it was Hastings specifically but some random pro. Noel shows up out of nowhere and his stars nick is his full name? Too obvious
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06-25-2015 , 01:41 PM
Isn't it against the TOS here on 2+2 to post PM's without permission?

Also, for some context, when did he send it?
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06-25-2015 , 01:42 PM
If you're so afraid of "Damaging the reputation of poker" then you should have tried not secretly multi-accounting you stupid ****.

Also lol'ing pretty hard at you repeating "the dream is to have Americans able to play poker from the comfort of their own home". Literally what you have been doing anyway.
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06-25-2015 , 01:43 PM
(fwiw Our Conor won neither the Grand National or a Novice Hurlde. He won the Triumph Hurdle confined to 4 year olds and specifically not open to novices. Ok ignore me and back to the matter in hand.)
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06-25-2015 , 01:44 PM
Poor Brian is having a meltdown:

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06-25-2015 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fivetypes

Again, its not like if he didnt do it hed be out on the street.

I can somewhat understand how someone whos financially desperate can end up in a situation like this, although I dont think they should be treated any differently.

But he just did it cos he doesn't see the problem in ****ing people over to make his life easier. Which is what douchebags do.

The whole, omg keep it quiet im Brain Hastings and you could RUIN poker by ruining my rep is almost the funniest delusion i've seen over the years on 2+2. And there have been some whoppers!
Well said.
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06-25-2015 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bakes
I think hypocritical would be a situation where you were sponsored by a poker site like PokerStars, knew about a person blatantly multiaccounting and breaking the TOS, and did nothing about it

I am bringing this information to light ~3 weeks after I got it. Some people had it for months and months. I had to prepare for the series and travel from Europe, but it has been on my mind for sure.

I didn't know quite what my line would be , but once I saw our hero calling out others for improprieties, I felt like saying something


So it's not your obligation to call out a cheater because you aren't getting paid by pokerstars? Terrible logic and you can't complain the next time you get cheated when someone else that wasn't sponsored by the site didn't bring it to your attention...

I know you aren't a pokerstars pro. But would you like to out anyone else? Or rather wait for this to happen to someone else.
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06-25-2015 , 01:47 PM
Where is this pm u guys are talking about!
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06-25-2015 , 01:47 PM
He called bakes a hater and negged the **** out of him lolol.
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06-25-2015 , 01:50 PM
Hahaha he just basically said
"Downswings are tough bakes, **** you"
Hihi this is hilarious
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06-25-2015 , 01:50 PM
Brian,
If you are so concerned with poker getting tarnished with another cheating scandal i'd suggest not cheating.
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06-25-2015 , 01:51 PM
I'm lucky enough that I live in England and I certainly have never cheated. but I would never consider reporting a player for playing from America. but what Brian's done here is obviously another level.

sending that tweet about helping people with depression then using it in that pm is just lol. does he think we are a bunch of level 1 fish here or what.
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06-25-2015 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bakes
This is the level of delusion we're dealing with here folks

The guy was no doubt blowing up my old Skype that I never use and got frustrated when I didn't immediately respond

I don't always get Multiaccounting apologies, but when I do they curse me out, condescend and call me a bad player, talk some patriotic bull**** about what's good for the game, and something something I didn't scum you that bad but I'll still pay your equity back



Fwiw let me explain how I was contacted

With 7 left in the FT a poker player who is my friend but is no doubt much closer to Brian than me messaged a close friend of mine saying that they had a 'business opportunity' or something like that for the FT. I had no clue wtf this was so I played out the FT and only realized after this was my opportunity to learn who I was playing against

Of course, that was the SCOOP FT

When we played sessions like this together

Hand #4379

PokerStars Hand #130955392733: 8-Game (Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit, $100/$200 USD) - 2015/02/22 12:46:20 ET
Table 'Coppelia V' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Crazy Elior ($6493.10 in chips)
Seat 2: NoelHayes ($8830.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Fresh_oO_D ($7211 in chips)
Seat 4: hotmark777 ($2576.69 in chips)
Seat 6: WhooooKidd ($2450.50 in chips)

He didn't give two ****s about telling me 4 months prior at 100/200 8game
Holy moly.
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06-25-2015 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by COG
Bakes, why did you hold on the the info so long and wait so long to out him? Seems kinda hypocritical
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Originally Posted by COG
So it's not your obligation to call out a cheater because you aren't getting paid by pokerstars? Terrible logic and you can't complain the next time you get cheated when someone else that wasn't sponsored by the site didn't bring it to your attention...

I know you aren't a pokerstars pro. But would you like to out anyone else? Or rather wait for this to happen to someone else.
Why are you attacking the messenger, he is not the one that was multiacounting?
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06-25-2015 , 01:51 PM
Lmao at the PM . " YOU ARE CREATING BAD PR FOR POKER WTF ARE YOU DOING!!! NOT ME THE ONE ACTUALLY BEING A SCUMBAG MA'ING CHEATER, THIS IS YOUR FAULT YOU ARE THE ONE DOING STUFF BAD FOR POKER!!!" how ****ing delusional
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06-25-2015 , 01:52 PM
lol I love the logic.

I'm doing something that could ruin Poker's reputation.

But you shouldn't tell anyone because that could ruin Poker's reputation.

Sigh. I feel bad for him because he's clearly got some issues to work through. I don't think he's actively trying to f*** anyone ever, but I don't think he quite thought all this through in advance. Now he'll deal with the consequences.

Also not a good look for any PS pros that knew and stayed mum.

These are the kinds of consequences he didn't think through.

All because it's sad in Canada. Dammit Canada.
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06-25-2015 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nobel1
Why are you attacking the messenger, he is not the one that was multiacounting?
Was just asking a question. He was mad that mercier didn't tell everyone when he knew. But after he found out he didn't tell anyone for 3 weeks
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06-25-2015 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
as ansky said the VPNing is not the major problem but still significant.

its not the problem of me and others if the good old us government bans onlinepoker, either you live the country and dont play for a living on stars or live somewhere else. i dont give a **** about his personal situation. theres ****loads of murricans i met on my travels and alot of them like that lifestyle but a significant part would also like to live in the us rather than abroad. this behaviour of a somewat ambassador of teh game is just such a slap in teh face for every single one of them.


Far worse is teh whole MAing thing... that a couple of guys knew about his "new" screen name makes also zero difference bc i would assume alot of 1k and 2k players took shots in teh beginning after googling noel hayes - shots theyd have never taken if they knew who that account belonged to. How guys who knew that wouldnt out that info earlier or directly bring that to stars attention is also beyond me. I personally would have to be DAMN good friends with someone who admits to me he's multiaccounting to not bring that to Stars attention.
you spelt the correct five times. you ok
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06-25-2015 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by COG
So it's not your obligation to call out a cheater because you aren't getting paid by pokerstars? Terrible logic and you can't complain the next time you get cheated when someone else that wasn't sponsored by the site didn't bring it to your attention...

I know you aren't a pokerstars pro. But would you like to out anyone else? Or rather wait for this to happen to someone else.
WTF, man? You are talking to the guy who DID out him. Talk about terrible logic.
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06-25-2015 , 01:55 PM
I have no business muddying the waters but that PM is more pitiful than the actually offense, in my opinion. He could have replied with "I get money" and came across a hell of a lot better.
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06-25-2015 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by geoffoakley
I would imagine he gives more than a crap. Not so much about people he doesn't know talking about it and considering him shady but I imagine he's going to be involved in the gambling world for a long time and specifically the non poker gambling world and when people from that world are just a google search of his name away from these cheating allegations it will have a hugely detrimental effect on his life and peoples perception of him. For example He had some big jobs in the Irish gambling industry. If he trys to get a big job again Im sure there will be some background checks online and the likes and one of the first things they come across is threads and reports on this situation with words like cheated,scammed etc. While i agree that old school cheaters get their stories retold at poker tables and people love hearing of a good stroke in Ireland nobody wants to be considered a cheater or scumbag or someone with next to no morals or ethics even more so in the non poker gambling world then the poker world.
his mates all regularly multi account for gambling and shady ****, how did stinger have the account and not some irish hs player tho?
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06-25-2015 , 01:56 PM
So ITT today we have 2 things

I - An official admission....I think
II - AE Muthafkn Jones!

Wassup? Starting to get some traction!
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