I wonder if PS has banned Hastings from all their live events, like they did Jake Schindler..

He'll be on the list

The ACR NoelHayes account was set up way before the scandal broke so it can't really be a troll account unless it's a mate of his. They all played pretty much the same, very aggro like he does. One account ft bubbled, another was around 20th and the last account finished 50th or so!

Only regs would make a Hastings gimmick so saying they all played an agro style doesn't mean much since all good mtt regs play an agro style that deep.

The Noel account was made in December of last year, fwiw.

Yeah I saw that, that's what led me to believe it was more than likely him, the account being made 6 months+ prior to the scandal that is!

I don't think ANY "online poker pro" has not multi accounted at some point.. which is why 99% of them won't come out and bash him.. I think it say a lot about the kid he stepped up and was honest about it... whether or not that was altruistic... is anyone' guess.. he should have to deal with consequences and he has expressed he is fine with that .. this thread is one of those consequences... before I get out the pitchfork I need to see more evidence or egregious abuse... The berri sweet thing is kind of bad... KINDA... I would be less forgiving if he multiple entered mtts/sngs especially high stakes bracelet/sattelite type stuff

I never liked stinger88 as a CR member to be honest I felt he was overrated and he had some trouble speaking clearly in his videos but he is defo one of the better players in both arenas.. I am not gonna throw other forgiven 'cheaters' under the bus but I more question some of the people who have gotten a pass after getting caught crushing high stakes mtts with multiple accounts... after seeing him on PAD ... Ii realized he actually is pretty sociable and 'normal'

who cares.. this is just a fish's 2c

I'm laughing so hard my voice box is creaking!!!

BAHAHAHAHHAHALMAOAOOAOOAOAOOAOA0!!

Uw0tmate?

Normally I'm disappointed when your posts don't involve a 'teh'
This made up for it.

:thumbup:

wtf dumbest post ever. poster should be banned. at least we know u r another one. and he didnt step up lol he got exposed rofl. i dont understand sympathy for rich people who break rules to get richer and get away with it.

There are many examples of MA at the highest levels. The top pros speak about it like its normal. Ben86 implied he was pretty confident isuldur was MA'ing but didn't give one ****.

Why do you care so much?

Where is the isuldur thread?

Do you know who you're playing against online? Do you get upset when you're really losing vs. the no teeth grandma to the real account holder instead of losing to the actual account holder?

Big difference isuldur has never been caught, or admitted MA, before you say just because he wasnt caught MAing doesnt mean he wasnt, he hasnt done anything to suggest otherwise, nor as far as we know has he done anything shady or questionable and he does not seem the type to MA for a edge against opponenets since he exhbits zero game selection. The only situation I can see isldur MAing is when he is busto and has to go back to $1-$2,, but all in all I wouldnt be surprised if they all MA when they have to play lower stakes for one reason or another, im sure these players can grind out 6-7 figures playing midstakes, but dont think just MAing is the reason this thread was started do more research

Saying all pros multi-account is a joke. This may have been more common place a LONG time ago. Not today and the community has reacted along these lines. Maybe a read of the Brian Townsend thread where he MA'd lower stakes would be worth a read. Just because every pro in town hasn't come to NVG and typed Brian Hastings is scum doesn't mean a large % don't think that way.

Here come the stupid replies from Nick_AA again. Not long ago you were defending isildur1's honor calling out everyone who had something bad to say about him now you are using being made look like a fool to support your silly arguments. Some of your logic defies belief. But maybe you're learning (doubt it)

And you seem to care more than most anyone. Constantly here to backup your heroes whether they are in the right (they are always pretty much in the wrong when you jump on board) or wrong. It's admirable however ridiculous

Also your comparisons make no sense comparing a rec who wouldn't remember the name of who they played last week to someone playing for a living and logging considerable hours learning their opponents tendancies and their livelihood depending on it is a bit different to joe blow donking off a few buy ins after a few beers on a friday night. The fact that you don't get this concept amazes me

LOL u sure about that?

Passwordgothacked
[x] Complete moron
[ ] valued member of the poker community or any community
[x] Nick_AA fanboy

Nick_AA
[ ] has poker heroes

I have no poker heroes - poker is corrupt/rotten from the bottom to the top. I am 100% correct in pointing out the hypocrites (especially you) in this BS thread. I don't (and no one cares) what your opinion on my logic is. We will let life sort out the winner of that "battle" (I'm about 110% sure it already has considering the majority of your life is spend posting on this forum desperately trying to sound smart).

Defending Isuldur? Stop making **** up.

Considering you're spending multiple paragraphs insulting somebody, and then say that, you sound like an elitist pathetic douche, not to mention a complete hypocrite. Congrats!

Nice try bud but your attempted attack isn't factual....

Compare the number of posts paragraphs and or text count ITT and you would see you are wrong..... Again.

[x] yet another complete moron ITT

Nick-AA Is learning from his hero the Donald.

I did not say all pros MA did I? Please great keeper of my posts, show me where I said that all pros MA. The basis of your posts are just plain incorrect. You hear what you want and make up or cherry pick facts you think support your feeble arguments.

I was not defending isuldur. Although I have no issue with him. Even if he did MA. If anyone I'm most sympathetic to him because his country's tax code is ridiculous for poker players (or was?).

Nor did he say you did - notice that part of his post comes before anything of yours is quoted. Someone else said that.

But that aside, do we need a separate thread for you guys to fight it out? It would be nice if you guys could knock it off ITT.

He quoted me and said "saying all poker pros MA is a joke".

I know you're smart enough to understand what that means.

I'm not asking for a fight. I have simply maintained this thread is stupid. MA is happening a lot more than BA but people love to hate him. The higher takes pros know better.

It is exactly as Bobo said we have butted heads plenty but I did not quote you as saying that. The comment after the quote is typically where one will reference their thoughts about said quote.

The comment you are referring to was actually in response to StackJacking that should be clearly obvious. You may rightly have times to stick up for yourself but this isn't one. Dunno what to tell you.

btw I'm not posting this to carry on any further argument just to clarify what seems to be clear to everyone else to put your mind at ease.

I also take offence to the fact you have insinuated that I am a hypocrite meaning that you obviously think I have MA'd at some point. Not sure where you are getting your facts from but we'll leave it at that. I played at FTP for a fairly long time without rakeback because I didn't think it was right to MA back then (and didn't want my account blocked or to have issues like Mr Hastings is having right now). It took me countless emails and volume to be given this. My opinion hasn't changed. And that cost me a lot of money. And that would have only been against a site not other players. So I have my morals hence my standpoint. I have never MA'd and I have been playing online for over 10 years. But I digress.

I just can't figure out why you are so hell bent on sticking up for something that is morally wrong and against T&C's on every site. Just because some people do the wrong thing does not make it right. And whilst there are still people that think it is wrong and the site T&C's agree with them then we have every leg to stand on by being outraged.

The argument someone else did it so I can is not the way you should choose your actions nor should it be your defence when you are caught and people are unhappy. Cop the **** and own it because whether others did it or not it is technically wrong.

I however do not think we will ever see eye to eye on this topic so I'm going to stop replying to you in this thread to save mods the headache. It's not worth arguing about really.

Cheers

[x] Butt buddies in this thread

Apparently Passwordgothacked and Bobo have a thing for each other.
I get PM "warned" by big bad Bobo Fett for insulting Password who insulted me 3 posts prior? lol. Somehow I don't think password received a warning. The ironic thing is I couldn't be more spot on with regard to password.

LOL@ password thinking you're on some moral high ground for not breaking ToS. Like ToS is somehow strictly aligned with moral code.....yet other sites allow periodic name changes, or are anonymous. Those sites must be breaking your moral code in a big way, I hope you're not playing on them otherwise you'd be more of a hypocrite. We should just register with ours SSN's as screen names and mug shots for avatars so we know exactly who we're playing against (because otherwise it's immoral...on the internet).

AGAIN for the 100th time, I'm not sticking up for MA'ing, which seems SO HARD for you to understand. I'm saying this thread and all the **** talking (from you included) is stupid as hell when SO MANY other high stakes players are doing the same ****, or breaking moral codes (I mean ToS) with illegal software.

Please do ban me for saying what you don't want to hear, it will be 100% consistent with what we'd all expect from this worthless forum.

Butt buddies - wow, good one! I haven't heard that used since I was about 12 years old. Pretty interesting response for a guy who's "not asking for a fight".

I neither know nor care whether "low stakes douche wannabes" and "it entertains me to see these losers getting all crazy" included PGH or not. You were warned because you went right back at it again immediately after I asked you guys to knock it off.

If the forum is so worthless, no one's stopping you from leaving. But you're welcome to stay as well, if you can refrain from insulting people at every turn.

They both prolly got paid by rasva to go at each other to make teh thread unreadable. Quality investment so far, they doing a damn fine job