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Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post. Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post.

08-18-2015 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigoldnit
You do play a game of incomplete information for a living, right?

Let's look at what we know:

- Ike says that, prior to SCOOP, he had heard credible rumors, but not definitive proof, that Hastings was playing on the account.

- During SCOOP, Hastings tells Ike, that he is in fact playing on the account.

Given that (a) we know that high stakes players were speculating that multi-accounting was occurring, but asking Stars to investigate the account was apparenty never discussed, (b) Hastings apparently believed that confessing to multi-accounting to a Stars sponsored player was a relatively low risk proposition and, (c) Ike basically reacted to this revelation by shrugging and going about his business, is it really that unreasonable to infer that there is a lot of multiaccounting going on?

If Hastings was some renegade scumbag who was really operating way outside of the boundaries of acceptable behavior, I find it hard to believe that Ike (who does seem like a decent, thoughtful guy, imo), would have been quite as blase about Hastings' confession.

Imo, Hastings' conduct tells us a lot about Hastings, but Ike's conduct reveals a lot about the state of the game...
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Originally Posted by PsyLens



If the system wasn't broken, would this have ever happened in the first place?
The real questions that come to my mind are:

1. Does Stars just allow VPNing/MAing knowingly?

If not then:

2. Doesn't that mean that Stars can't stop VPNing or MAing?
Important observations and questions from both posts.

What amount of responsibility does Poker Stars bear for the state of the game?

If Poker Stars security is comprehensive why so frequently does it take players investing numerous hours documenting abuse before Poker Stars takes action?

If Poker Stars cannot provide safe games should they be considered for inclusion in the U.S market?

What is the most appropriate or effective way to obtain answers on this issue?

Is there a regulatory institution that Poker Stars complies with which can provide answers if petitioned?

Poker Stars remains firm in not disclosing any internal information. Under most circumstances this is to be respected. Due to the recent varied problems regarding security it may be time for Poker Stars to offer evidence of actions improving security and outlining any new procedures.
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08-18-2015 , 04:58 AM
From an outsiders pov= who cares. If I wore a mask to the live tables then im cheating??? Stop bumhunting and get over it from my pov.
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08-18-2015 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by UwantMyGame
Important observations and questions from both posts.

What amount of responsibility does Poker Stars bear for the state of the game?

If Poker Stars security is comprehensive why so frequently does it take players investing numerous hours documenting abuse before Poker Stars takes action?

If Poker Stars cannot provide safe games should they be considered for inclusion in the U.S market?

What is the most appropriate or effective way to obtain answers on this issue?

Is there a regulatory institution that Poker Stars complies with which can provide answers if petitioned?

Poker Stars remains firm in not disclosing any internal information. Under most circumstances this is to be respected. Due to the recent varied problems regarding security it may be time for Poker Stars to offer evidence of actions improving security and outlining any new procedures.
It might help if you can itemize just what are the "recent varied problems regarding security" you want new procedures to address. Problems with account security, player transfers, bots et cetera present very different issues than collusion in game play, back-door access to hole cards, et cetera.

For example, if US regulators require GPS for geo-location issues, such as in Nevada and New Jersey, it is certain those will be implemented by any new licensee. Same for other regulatory measures that might be the rule under various licensing schemes. Stars is licensed all around the world, under a variety of different sets of rules, no reason to think it would not comply with the various US markets' operating and licensing rules.

FWIW, Amaya already IS licensed in New Jersey as a provider for gambling software I believe. Would you feel better if the Full Tilt brand and products were offered in the US, instead of PokerSars ? In any event, your seeming opposition to any new competition in the US poker markets is puzzling.

"A quick list of the companies Amaya does business with in some form or another (primarily as a supplier of casino platforms, poker platforms and casino content):
•Caesars.
•Golden Nugget.
•Borgata.
•Trump Plaza."

http://www.onlinepokerreport.com/134...ersey-answers/


If you feel that Stars has broken some regulation in some licensing jurisdiction outside the US, the regulator to complain to (or petition as you put it) is where your account is located .... look it up. I understand that is not very dramatic, but it is the answer to your question.

(If your beef concerns solely MAing, would the "security problem" be solved if MAing were permitted; same for anonymous tables, changing screen names, and other non-game play matters.)

A good poker environment satisfies player demand best, which means perhaps most often the entertainment demands of recreational players, rather than creating the optimal abattoir for bumhunters' specific benefit.

Last edited by Geezer Soze; 08-18-2015 at 11:22 AM.
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08-18-2015 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AdamSchwartz
Ya Limon is afraid of speaking his mind, needs to open a dupe account because he's afraid to be confrontational on his original account
That's not the only reason people create new accounts. He can't just keep repeating the same crap over and over (on one account) or he would get banned, but if he creates new accounts he can do that and pretend that more people hold the same ideas.
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08-18-2015 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dody
HWC,

Don't you think with all of your assertions that full disclosure and responses to questions are critical, when they can clear your name.. Why won't you answer the simple question that have been directed at you several times?

What are the names of your other 2+2 accounts?

Thanks for your full disclosure. Being open and honest can't make things worse and can only improve the situation...right?
bump.

After all, this is a discussion about openness and transparency, and how we say what we know even if we think it might not look so good for us...
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08-18-2015 , 08:06 PM
congratulations brian hastings!!!!!!
(& hat tip to that stupid pos "magazine" cardplayer for the announcement!)

Brian Hastings Joins Multi Action Poker Team
Three-Time WSOP Bracelet Winner Endorses New Variant Of Live Poker

by Card Player News Team | Published: Aug 18, 2015

from the multi action poker website under the spokesmen tab(www.map poker.com/6/)


Brian Hastings
“MAP is an online poker player's live poker dream game.”

“Multi Action Poker is a fun new variant of live poker. The action is fast and furious, and players get significantly more hands per hour.”


Brian Hastings has 3 WSOP bracelets and over $6,350,000 in lifetime online high stakes cash games net profit, putting him in the top 10 of all time for tracked online poker results. Brian is considered an elite player at almost all variants of poker. His WSOP bracelets have come in the $10,000 Heads Up No-Limit Hold 'Em Championship event (2012), the $10,000 Stud Hi Championship Event (2015), and the $1,500 10 Game Mix (2015). Brian has a B.A. in Economics from Cornell University and has made over 80 instructional poker videos for CardRunners.com (most recently 2013).

Why is Brian our spokesman? As one of the greatest online players of all time, Brian is the ideal person to bridge online play and live MAP play. Furthermore, Brian's character, integrity, and outward focus is in alignment with our company philosophy of win-win. He is a registered member of Raising for Effective Giving (www.reg-charity.org), pledging 2+% of his gross tournament winnings to the organization. You can follow Brian on Twitter @brianchastings and check out his website www.brianc hastings.com for more substantial, focused blog posts.




Last edited by Bobo Fett; 08-19-2015 at 01:08 AM. Reason: You know you can edit things when you paste them so you don't give free publicity to those you don't like?
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08-18-2015 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by volcano41
From an outsiders pov= who cares. If I wore a mask to the live tables then im cheating??? Stop bumhunting and get over it from my pov.
Yeah, this.
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08-18-2015 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hotwarmcold2
congratulations brian hastings!!!!!!
(& hat tip to that stupid pos "magazine" cardplayer for the announcement!)

Brian Hastings Joins Multi Action Poker Team
Three-Time WSOP Bracelet Winner Endorses New Variant Of Live Poker

by Card Player News Team | Published: Aug 18, 2015

from the multi action poker website under the spokesmen tab(www.map poker.com/6/)


Brian Hastings
“MAP is an online poker player's live poker dream game.”

“Multi Action Poker is a fun new variant of live poker. The action is fast and furious, and players get significantly more hands per hour.”


Brian Hastings has 3 WSOP bracelets and over $6,350,000 in lifetime online high stakes cash games net profit, putting him in the top 10 of all time for tracked online poker results. Brian is considered an elite player at almost all variants of poker. His WSOP bracelets have come in the $10,000 Heads Up No-Limit Hold 'Em Championship event (2012), the $10,000 Stud Hi Championship Event (2015), and the $1,500 10 Game Mix (2015). Brian has a B.A. in Economics from Cornell University and has made over 80 instructional poker videos for CardRunners.com (most recently 2013).

Why is Brian our spokesman? As one of the greatest online players of all time, Brian is the ideal person to bridge online play and live MAP play. Furthermore, Brian's character, integrity, and outward focus is in alignment with our company philosophy of win-win. He is a registered member of Raising for Effective Giving (www.reg-charity.org), pledging 2+% of his gross tournament winnings to the organization. You can follow Brian on Twitter @brianchastings and check out his website www.brianc hastings.com for more substantial, focused blog posts.



That sums up pretty nicely everything wats wrong with poker. If grinder or jen had any sort of integrity they would say me or him ur choice...
If cardplayer would have any integrity they wouldnt feature this.

Overall its just a v sad industry...

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08-18-2015 , 08:52 PM
i think i played w/this guy before. he might just be stupid enough to not know about hastings background, but seeing he has an account here maybe not

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08-18-2015 , 11:51 PM
so he joins the MA Team?
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08-19-2015 , 12:11 AM
He's just trolling us now, honestly.
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08-19-2015 , 01:02 AM
so when is a hater going to report hastings to DOJ or some relevant authority.

seems like NJ already has been wanting to steer far clear of issuing PS a license anytime soon. for whatever reason (before this scandal) it seems like they have had PS on their sh*t list for licenses . wonder if they knew or suspected PS of allowing vping for a while now. wonder if they even know about this scandal. maybe in another 5 years or so we can get PS licensed in at least one state
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08-19-2015 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by gausspoker
so he joins the MA Team?
Yeah when I saw "Multi-Action" Poker I thought it had to be a level
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08-19-2015 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
That sums up pretty nicely everything wats wrong with poker. If grinder or jen had any sort of integrity they would say me or him ur choice...
If cardplayer would have any integrity they wouldnt feature this.

Overall its just a v sad industry...
but dan colman was a douche for not giving interviews
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08-19-2015 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by volcano41
From an outsiders pov= who cares. If I wore a mask to the live tables then im cheating??? Stop bumhunting and get over it from my pov.
wouldn't be cheating, u'd still be easily recognizable as the only guy who's ever in the cardroom wearing a mask
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08-19-2015 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Game_On
wouldn't be cheating, u'd still be easily recognizable as the only guy who's ever in the cardroom wearing a mask
But what if he had multiple masks?
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08-19-2015 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by highhustla
He's just trolling us now, honestly.
pretty much this ... had to read the "Brian Hastings Joins Multi Action Poker Team" headline three times to understand, it's not related to the accusations
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08-19-2015 , 07:32 AM
lol BH is the nut low.
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08-19-2015 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hotwarmcold2
"Brian's character, integrity, and outward focus is in alignment with our company philosophy of win-win."
Satire writes itself again.
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08-20-2015 , 04:17 AM
Ashley Madison style data dump of MAers on the way?
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08-20-2015 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
But what if he had multiple masks?
Would still be the only wierdo in the cardroom with a mask. If everyone started wearing a mask then youd have a problem. But Until theres at least 2 of u with the same body type/skin and hair color wearing masks it wouldnt be n issue. Be gone troll
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08-20-2015 , 05:39 AM
what is multi action poker?
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08-20-2015 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberShark93
what is multi action poker?
One table (I think up to 8 players), two dealers, two separate hands going at same time. You keep your chips in two distinct, separate sections.
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08-20-2015 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dagrims
One table (I think up to 8 players), two dealers, two separate hands going at same time. You keep your chips in two distinct, separate sections.
that sounds chaotic
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