The fun thing is though, you can call a senator/governor/judge whoever from states where it is legal and they will usually bumble and say it is illegal when really they have no clue.

I can only imagine how much Hastings is loving that this thread has been successfully diverted to roasting Ike as an outlaw, and at the same time essentially giving Hastings a walk for cheating again and being an overall dirtbag. The guy overtly cheats, has been caught cheating for years, and a few of y'all get so obsessively focused only on taking Ike down. Yes, Ike's omission in informing Stars was wrong and likely unethical, but why is he taking nearly all of the heat?

The repeated willful deceit and scumbaggery by Hastings trumps Ike's omission to report him imo. Focus the flaming effort on where it truly belongs.

Hmmm good job but what about all the other online pros who made money under aged / playing women's events on their mummas accounts? Did they have to pay back what they won? Doubt it Stars just issue email reprimand and keep raking

What about them? Life's not fair. Get used to it.

Chances that another random account pops up during wcoop and starts playing the biggest games?

So what can happen to Brian? Pokerstars is UK based so how can they pursue charges against him?

It is kinda funny that the Stinger 88 account is used to pay Cr coaching fees. Thanks Brian for putting my account under investigation.

Not a fan of pokerstars silence on a very public issue especially if they are approving messages posted by their pros

100% happens everytime.

FYP. how long ago did you get notice of that? and did they lock it pending? oh & nice calling that pos out on twitter.

Prolly all accounts that r related to cheatrunners are in some way compromised so really not brians fault

just awesome how shaun deeb can call out bleznick for being a ma'ing pos, but just can't say a word about his buddy brian hastings doing the same. shaun, is it just cheating when you don't know who is playing what account?





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IT was so sick during the Main Event when people were basically handing brian chips.

What is Shaun Deeb have to do with this? he knew about all this?

answer the question shaun. my guess is you [will be quiet] like you were when matusow told you he'll punch you in the mouth

[Mod edit for personal insults and evading profanity filter]

Read the Twitter conversation and combined with that photo, it doesn't look great. Seems fair to ask him if he has a comment.

Did you consider responding to that tweet?

total coincidence that everyone in that pic on stinger's twitter is wearing a ted's fish fry hat.

Explain the connection for those of us who are too involved in our own lives to realize the significance.

tedsfishfry is shaun deeb's SN on FTP

Isn't it his families restaurant?

yes

The problem of integrity is the most important one.
Integrity- wikipedia
First of all I will like to mention that they are two ways of "testing" integrity.
a) Subjectively — by human constructs of accountability and internal consistency, or
b) objectively — via the scientific method.
It seems to me the "objective method" is not the correct one. We as a poker community have a good "constructs of accountability" and the absolute need of "internal consistency" in this forum.

"An individual's value system provides a framework within which the individual acts in ways which are consistent and expected. Integrity can be seen as the state or condition of having such a framework, and acting congruently within the given framework."

"One essential aspect of a consistent framework is its avoidance of any unwarranted (arbitrary) exceptions for a particular person or group — especially the person or group that holds the framework. In law, this principle of universal application requires that even those in positions of official power be subject to the same laws as pertain to their fellow citizens. In personal ethics, this principle requires that one should not act according to any rule that one would not wish to see universally followed. For example, one should not steal unless one would want to live in a world in which everyone was a thief. The philosopher Immanuel Kant formally described the principle of universal application in his categorical imperative."

"The concept of integrity implies a wholeness, a comprehensive corpus of beliefs, often referred to as a worldview. This concept of wholeness emphasizes honesty and authenticity, requiring that one act at all times in accordance with the individual's chosen worldview."


mods plz delete post. #3421 thank you ( I am trying to make more sense in NVG)

Not sure what people want or expect from Ike. I would compare what he did to jaywalking. If, of course, he is being truthful. For whatever reason, I believe that he is.

Hotwarmcold, you seemed to have really irked Bobo Fett, which is hard to do because he might just be the most reasonable, level headed person on here..

Forget the actions. The state of mind (worldview) in which one takes the action is the tree of which the action is a fruit.
Personally I am concerned that "constructs of accountability" in this case applies to the tree but not the fruit.

If we are to agree that when we speak about the concept of Integrity it implies a wholeness and that wholeness emphasizes honesty and authenticity, requiring that one act at all times in accordance with the individual's chosen worldview.
Then I will have to say that you are missing the point.

Mini derail but did you not say the other day English is not one of your strong languages?
Might I just say, you seem to be getting the hang of it

The poker community should never be lax when reasonable claims of abuse are presented. If someone were to have started a thread months prior to Black Friday warning of corrupt practices at Full Tilt Poker e.g Improper lending of funds which called into question security and management of all funds. I believe they would have been shouted down by the masses. Numerous examples including the prevalence of iconic respected players would have quickly made the idea seem ridiculous. The history of online poker has taught us that involvement of people of regard does not equate to integrity and safety.

Bakes initial allegation regarding the NoelHayes account were proven accurate which offered strong reason to pursue related information. Due to Bakes correct assessment that either Isaac Haxton knew and did not say anything to Poker Stars or Poker Stars knew and did nothing made this a question that needed to be answered for the welfare of the community. Please stop and consider the ramifications if Poker Stars had been informed. Defense due to friendship and fancy when legitimate allegations are presented is debilitating and undermining to community safety. A profitable swindle requires victims to feel security.

Many were certain from the beginning of questions regarding Isaac Haxton that he was without fault. His situation exemplifies the insidious ramifications of tolerance. Does a person of integrity protect a cheater while allowing innocents to suffer? Bakes and Poker Stars among others have suffered due to tolerance. The source and time line for Poker Stars cognizance is still unknown. This situation may not be as grave as many feared. That fact does not annul the proper necessity of this discussion.

Comments ITT from the three of the most recognized players ITT (Joe Ingram, Vanessa Selbst and Isaac Haxton) unequivocally express that game integrity is and has been seriously compromised. None of these players has offered any assistance in changing the paradigm. Isaac Haxton has promised not to make the same mistake. These players understand how game integrity is compromised and would be extremely valuable in creating solutions.

There has been no communication from Poker Stars on if or how to address this issue. Very few players are expressing a desire for change. This attitude coupled with outside resistance, i.e Sheldon Aldeson, is damaging to existing players and obstructs licensed gaming in the United States.

I would suggest that due to disclosure this discussion has been a victory for the community regardless of the disappointment some were going to inevitably feel. I hope that the community will recognize and make use of the information learned to further accountability and integrity. Serious problems exist. Acknowledgement of this fact and seeking disclosure and solutions should not be equivocated to witch hunting. Hindering discussion based on personality etc. of those involved prevents obtainment of solutions and allows pernicious habits to continue.

To those who may have taken umbrage with my posts I hope you will bear no malice. I seek disclosure and game inegrity. I came to conclusions based solely on the information I had seen presented. If some of my conclusions are found to be erroneous based on new information I hope that they were not at the time of writing.

ps. to whomever suggested ike be punished by moderating NVG