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Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post. Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post.

08-13-2015 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Jamie Staples is a Stars pro? wtf? the guy hardly knew the rules of poker during that High Roller he was narrating. I guess stars will hire anyone these days.
Skill has nothing to do with getting a sponsorship anymore. All that matters is your following.
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08-13-2015 , 11:17 PM
Is it a classic sign of denial when he blocks all tweeters who write something about this?
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08-13-2015 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AdamSchwartz
Ya Limon is afraid of speaking his mind, needs to open a dupe account because he's afraid to be confrontational on his original account

Ha and the only mistake Limon ever made was that damn "i" typo.
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08-14-2015 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
The lion was shot by an ignorant American.
I'm reading this and I literally am listening to you on EPT Not Live right this second. How bizarre.
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08-14-2015 , 01:41 AM
Been lurking this thread for the most part. If we want people like Ike to respond to questions that are important they can't see 100+ posts in front of them every time they log on imo. Especially when the banter is useless for the most part.
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08-14-2015 , 01:46 AM
Now hes got to read all that too...
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08-14-2015 , 02:38 AM
A+ point
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08-14-2015 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Papicoolo
I just thought about this one guy who won the scoop main event playing under the screenname of his sister. That was a couple of years ago and he didn't see a dime of his win. What happened to stars. Why did they change their manner that hard?
Ha forgot about this. Didn't Stars make a statement about it?

Hayestings SCOOP cashes should absolutely get the same treatment.

Last edited by fivetypes; 08-14-2015 at 03:06 AM.
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08-14-2015 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Papicoolo
I just thought about this one guy who won the scoop main event playing under the screenname of his sister. That was a couple of years ago and he didn't see a dime of his win. What happened to stars. Why did they change their manner that hard?
Mark Teltscher playing under "The V0id" won the WCOOP main in 2007 and had the full $1.2m winnings seized for having multi accounted the tournament. All players in the tournament were moved up 1 place in payouts and the original 2nd place finisher was the new champion. "The V0id" was registered to his sister.

http://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/wo...heating_08380/

Unfortunately the big difference between that case and the Hastings case is that Teltscher never got to actually cash the money out of stars. I would be willing to wager a large amount Hastings got all the winnings off "NoelHayes" very quickly.

PokerStars did make a public statement about that account, seizure and redistribution

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news...r-disqualified

At the very least I would hope that will happen for the big MTT scores NoelHayes had.
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08-14-2015 , 03:21 AM
pokerstars emailed a few players that refunds will be made to anyone due one. if amaya sued a deadbeat like eric lindgren, they will likely sue noel & hastings. they can apply some pain & likely will. we are not talking about a couple k here.
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08-14-2015 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by hotwarmcold2
pokerstars emailed a few players that refunds will be made to anyone due one. if amaya sued a deadbeat like eric lindgren, they will likely sue noel & hastings. they can apply some pain & likely will. we are not talking about a couple k here.
You keep saying that PStars will, should or would sue. I gotta ask though under what theory of law could PStars (Amaya) sue Hastings? Did he cheat them? What pecuniary loss have they sustained as a result of the alleged actions of Hastings and/or anyone else involved? How are they damaged by Hastings conduct even if it is true as detailed ITT? What law, statute or regulation, civil or criminal, would you suggest gives them standing to sue Hastings?

More importantly, where would they sue him? In the U.S. where playing online poker on PStars while in the U.S. is illegal? In The Isle of Mann where the PStars servers are? Good luck with that! In the country or countries where the alleged conduct occurred? I don't think so. In the end though dude, you are just dreaming. Amaya has no actionable cause to sue Hastings. Can they ban him? Sure. If what he did is true they probably should. Can they seize money in his account? I guess so, if they want to. They seem to believe they have that right, as they do it all the time. Would that be legal? I don't know, maybe, but what could he do about it? Sue them? Maybe, but where would he find a court to file his complaint? Not here in the U.S. where just by playing online poker on PStars while in the U.S. makes his conduct illegal. You have to have clean hands to sue. He does not.

With respect to Lindgren; Amaya, when they bought PStars, also acquired the rights to a legal debt (a "loan") that had in turn been acquired by PStars in their acquisition of FTP via the settlement with the DOJ. The settlement agreement specifically assigned this specific debt (and a few others) to PStars. That is how Amaya claims to have standing to sue Lindgren in a U.S. court.
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08-14-2015 , 05:16 AM
It isn't illegal to play online poker in the US.
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08-14-2015 , 09:25 AM
MonsterMcgee gagging on Ike's ballsac ITT.

Will take Ike's response as gospel truth. He'd have no reason to be less than truthful here. Lord knows how quick and transparent he was to respond to this in the first place.
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08-14-2015 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Jamie Staples is a Stars pro? wtf? the guy hardly knew the rules of poker during that High Roller he was narrating. I guess stars will hire anyone these days.
He isnt a stars pro, he is a "friend of pokerstars" atm. One of few stars friends
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08-14-2015 , 11:01 AM
good 2cu itt 1938ford. we are talking about losses estimated to be >$1m to pokerstars along with all the embarrassment this has brought upon them via their own employees knowledge of the cheating & their now public confessions to it. worth the pain of going after brian's merril, boa & citizens accounts (at a minimum). i'm certain the US DOJ & some attorney generals will be helpful to them as well. living in another country does not shield you from de-frauding any person or entity. we are not talking about $100 here and amaya's corp hq is in canada i believe.

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08-14-2015 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hotwarmcold2
good 2cu itt 1938ford
HWC,

Don't you think with all of your assertions that full disclosure and responses to questions are critical, when they can clear your name.. Why won't you answer the simple question that have been directed at you several times?

What are the names of your other 2+2 accounts?

Thanks for your full disclosure. Being open and honest can't make things worse and can only improve the situation...right?
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08-14-2015 , 11:36 AM
tried to edit out the banks/brokerages brian allegedly uses, but got timed out. anyway, he posted that information on instagram himself via a screenshot so i guess it doesn't matter.


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08-14-2015 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 1938ford
Not here in the U.S. where just by playing online poker on PStars while in the U.S. makes his conduct illegal.
I may be wrong but is it illegal to play online poker in the US? I thought PS/Full Tilt left the market (forced out) so when it becomes regulated they would be allowed back in.

I've heard varying opinions that it's illegal - it's not illegal to play but to operate - it's all very, very grey.
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08-14-2015 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Jamie Staples is a Stars pro? wtf? the guy hardly knew the rules of poker during that High Roller he was narrating. I guess stars will hire anyone these days.
Well obviously he's no Ronaldo when it comes to poker...
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08-14-2015 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildspoke
I may be wrong but is it illegal to play online poker in the US? I thought PS/Full Tilt left the market (forced out) so when it becomes regulated they would be allowed back in.

I've heard varying opinions that it's illegal - it's not illegal to play but to operate - it's all very, very grey.
Only in a few states. People who don't know what they're talking about like to say it is though.

It's illegal for the banks to process money from online gambling, not for you to play.
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08-14-2015 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 1938ford
You keep saying that PStars will, should or would sue. I gotta ask though under what theory of law could PStars (Amaya) sue Hastings? Did he cheat them? What pecuniary loss have they sustained as a result of the alleged actions of Hastings and/or anyone else involved? How are they damaged by Hastings conduct even if it is true as detailed ITT? What law, statute or regulation, civil or criminal, would you suggest gives them standing to sue Hastings?

More importantly, where would they sue him? In the U.S. where playing online poker on PStars while in the U.S. is illegal? In The Isle of Mann where the PStars servers are? Good luck with that! In the country or countries where the alleged conduct occurred? I don't think so. In the end though dude, you are just dreaming. Amaya has no actionable cause to sue Hastings. Can they ban him? Sure. If what he did is true they probably should. Can they seize money in his account? I guess so, if they want to. They seem to believe they have that right, as they do it all the time. Would that be legal? I don't know, maybe, but what could he do about it? Sue them? Maybe, but where would he find a court to file his complaint? Not here in the U.S. where just by playing online poker on PStars while in the U.S. makes his conduct illegal. You have to have clean hands to sue. He does not.

With respect to Lindgren; Amaya, when they bought PStars, also acquired the rights to a legal debt (a "loan") that had in turn been acquired by PStars in their acquisition of FTP via the settlement with the DOJ. The settlement agreement specifically assigned this specific debt (and a few others) to PStars. That is how Amaya claims to have standing to sue Lindgren in a U.S. court.
It violates the terms of the UK gambling commission, specifically regarding money laundering. It probably breaks other laws, maybe to stop players playing from countries with direct taxation, eg Greece.

Pokerstars will have a record of who transferred to and from the Noel Hayes account, everyone transferring should be investigated, as they would likely be aware of the true recipient.
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08-14-2015 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mullion
Pokerstars will have a record of who transferred to and from the Noel Hayes account, everyone transferring should be investigated, as they would likely be aware of the true recipient.
and records of how how they got the money off-line.
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08-14-2015 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkMattersMan
shop in ike haxton looking the other way for A+
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08-14-2015 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by hotwarmcold2
shop in ike haxton looking the other way for A+
Your animosity towards Haxton in this discussion doesn't make much sense.

The only involvement suggested is that Bakes claimed Haxton knew who NoelHayes was during SCOOP in a tweet. Haxton came in here and explained what he knew and when after he was cleared to do so by Stars, which is expected under the circumstances. He said he found out during a tournament while seated with Hastings playing under NoelHayes but didn't give it much thought because he was playing. That seems plausible.

The way Bakes likely found out that Haxton knew is from Hastings. It's a common tactic to try to switch the public focus away to others that had some sort of tertiary involvement. Based on Hastings comments so far I would not be surprised if he brought Haxtons name up in this way or at least told Bakes as evidence that he wasn't trying to hide.

Either way you seem to be falling for it, are a sock puppet or have some other beef with Haxton (or stars pros in general) and are jumping at the opportunity to trash them.
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