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Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post. Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post.

08-12-2015 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cooozy
So if someone personally tells you they are cheating and you don't report it, anyone that's angry with you is "witch-burning"?
If this "angry" person has posted 50+ times regarding it, you might say that.

Plus he named his own thread "Should Ike go or should Ike stay?" so he screwed that up too.

Last edited by greybeard33; 08-12-2015 at 11:38 PM.
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08-12-2015 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R



lol thank you for inspiring me to play that again


You can get it cheap for iPad now.
I played through the whole game on my flight over for the WSOP.
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08-13-2015 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee
the moralizing and sanctimonious army of dip****s make NVG unreadable. People who are furious about Ike's response need to take a break and stop posting for a while.
He reminds me of her...


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08-13-2015 , 01:04 AM
This thread was always a little witch hunty but now dragging ike into it all its just gone full crazy.
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08-13-2015 , 01:08 AM
After carefully reading this thread and thinking about the copious amount of repetition I have decided that the best punishment for Ike would be to make him an NVG mod.
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08-13-2015 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by R*R
After carefully reading this thread and thinking about the copious amount of repetition I have decided that the best punishment for Ike would be to make him an NVG mod.
You MONSTER
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08-13-2015 , 01:47 AM
in a way, i kinda like hotwarmcold, he is like the batman of the internet, having a one man crusade against crime
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08-13-2015 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamsym2
This thread was always a little witch hunty but now dragging ike into it all its just gone full crazy.
He admitted that he made a mistake, therefore its not crazy to drag him into it. Not reporting multi-accounting seems pretty bad as a player, but as a rep of the company seems very bad.
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08-13-2015 , 02:08 AM
monkey island 1,2.

so much love.
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08-13-2015 , 02:11 AM
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08-13-2015 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
OnMyBike, this thread has probably been instrumental in getting ike to respond, and this response has most likely been in the works since before hwc arrived. The annoying manner in which hwc posts does nothing to win people over to his side, and distracts from any legitimate points he is making. Anyway, I'm sorry to have derailed this and am done complaining about hwc.
Dude was is your cut in %. I am the derailing, but come on you must delusional to think that any of us will buy your rhetoric. Think about it we are poker professionals and one of our top dogs obviously hiding something. I got 20 IP just for just stating that you guys talk and think like american politics. I writing 500-700 page on Hegelian dialectics.You guys display such level of disrespect for us that I really worry about the way they pick mods around here. Modern English is a joke and thats a fact. I speak 6 languages and English is not of them. But I can and I will destroy intellectually any of you who wants to step in the arena. All you guys do is hide the criminals and ban the people like me who are cheated by Ike.
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08-13-2015 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hired Goons2
He admitted that he made a mistake, therefore its not crazy to drag him into it. Not reporting multi-accounting seems pretty bad as a player, but as a rep of the company seems very bad.
Ugh i was going to type a long post but halfway through i realised its pointless. Yea Brian did wrong, yes ike did wrong, its all black and white with no grey areas. burn the witch etc
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08-13-2015 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamsym2
Ugh i was going to type a long post but halfway through i realised its pointless. Yea Brian did wrong, yes ike did wrong, its all black and white with no grey areas. burn the witch etc
I'm all for burning Hastings. Sorry, not seeing the grey area.
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08-13-2015 , 02:42 AM
its an unwinnable argument for me. Id just be curious how many people in Ike shoes would have reported brian, id guess less than 5%
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08-13-2015 , 03:52 AM
Not sure why everyone is upset with Ike. So he knew of a MA, he is not the poker police and no one likes a rat.
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08-13-2015 , 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ike
Some time in early May I heard a rumor that it was Brian on the account. I was inclined to believe it, but without any actual evidence I didn't think there was anything for me to do about it.
your starting to flip-flop from your initial confession, ike. you didn't need any evidence, especially since you yourself thought the rumor was credible & were inclined to believe it. the burden of investigating & confirming the cheating is upon pokerstars. the burden of reporting it is upon you (and any other stars employees who knew) the worst part about this is you could have done it anonymously & chose not to.
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08-13-2015 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
hwc, are you encouraged to learn that the only time ike knowingly played against Hastings as Noel was in one tournament, in which case the charge of ike getting action from people who wouldn't ordinarily play him doesn't apply.
unfortunately i am not. primarily due to ike's past history of choosing his words so carefully. i hope i am wrong, but i think he is the type of guy you need to clarify everything with given his past reliance on the ToS in many arguments he made about prahlad friedman, for example. just my opinion, but with ike you need to ask: "did you have hem running every time you played, are you including all the hands you played scoop events with etc..etc.." i'm not going to bother with it right now.

the most interesting part of the post is he made crystal clear that brian hastings contacted him on skype & told him he was playing on NoelHayes. now can someone tell me why him producing that chat transcript will make him look much,more,credible? give it some thought...

i believe bakes said brian hastings tried contacting him at the final table becuase he "had a business opportunity for bakes". ike needs to tell us exactly what hastings said. ducy (and no,, this isn't the answer to the previous question)

what i am most interested in atm is the criminal implications of the cheating & the financial penalties. i believe noel hayes is a UK resident? and if everything is true he violated the UK gambling act of 2005? which makes jail time a possbility. i think pokestars will go after him for all the money that was cheated off the site & since the speculation is hastings got most of that money, will hastings bail out noel hayes by shipping back the $$$ ? i am also curious as to how the money was moved around & if banking laws were broken & what the DOJ might think about that..
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08-13-2015 , 04:56 AM
pretty sure hastings didnt bother asking ike for any "business opportunity" because he knew the answer for that already.
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08-13-2015 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by hotwarmcold2
unfortunately i am not. primarily due to ike's past history of choosing his words so carefully. i hope i am wrong, but i think he is the type of guy you need to clarify everything with given his past reliance on the ToS in many arguments he made about prahlad friedman, for example.
I don't think anyone reading this thread is likely to believe you "hope you are wrong" to doubt Ike.

Do you have an agenda against him for reasons beyond what's in this thread? Are you willing to share who you are and what your history is with Ike or others involved here? If you need to stay anonymous, why?
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08-13-2015 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hotwarmcold2

i believe bakes said brian hastings tried contacting him at the final table becuase he "had a business opportunity for bakes". ike needs to tell us exactly what hastings said. ducy (and no,, this isn't the answer to the previous question)
How is Ike privy to conversations between Hastings and Bakes?
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08-13-2015 , 05:46 AM
this thread needs a srslysirius video
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08-13-2015 , 06:00 AM
Hotwarmcold is annoyingly overbearing.

With that said, I just think it's important to note, mostly to the ppl that are becoming frustrated saying this has turned into a witch hunt against Ike.

It is Bakes' public allegations against Ike for being in the know (as a sponsored PS pro) that started the outcry that a statement from Ike was needed. Not just a bunch of nvg 'tards going on a random witch hunt/fishing expedition.

My personal humble opinion is that Ike's responses have been mostly reasonable. Although I found the backtracking nature of his 2nd post to be a tad troubling.

I guess I'd be most interested to know what Bakes has thought of Ike's responses itt.
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08-13-2015 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ike
I would like the chance to address some of the concerns people have raised that I may have somehow been conspiring with Brian to get action that he or I or both of us wouldn’t have otherwise gotten or that I was protecting his identity out of any sort of financial self-interest. Neither of these things are true. Please allow me to clarify a few things about the nature and extent of my interactions with Brian and with the NoelHayes account.
I believe the NoelHayes account turned up around February. My records show that I played 290 hands of zoom PLO in games with the account in March and April. At that time I had no idea who was behind the account.
Some time in early May I heard a rumor that it was Brian on the account. I was inclined to believe it, but without any actual evidence I didn't think there was anything for me to do about it. Over the course of May I played 130 hands in games with the account.
On the last Sunday of SCOOP, I ended up on the same table as NoelHayes in a tournament and Brian messaged me on Skype to tell me it was him.
Now, in retrospect, I know that I should have immediately passed that Skype transcript along to someone at Stars. In reality, I was preoccupied with just trying to play poker and I ignored it. This was a lazy, irresponsible, path-of-least resistance choice, and I regret it, but in the moment I just didn't really think it through very carefully. The very next day I left for Vegas for the WSOP, the Noel account pretty much stopped playing online, and I didn't give the whole thing much further thought until this thread started.
When Brian messaged me to tell m
e he was playing on NoelHayes, it was the first time I had heard from him in several years. We are not close friends and have never had any sort of financial relationship.
Isn't it a bit strange that as soon as Brian told Ike he was Noel Hayes he just drops off the face of the earth?

Why would Noel Hayes stop playing?

Maybe Ike was a Good Samaritan and told Brian that he would report it to stars if he didn't stop?
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08-13-2015 , 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SootedPowa
Ike showing how not to rat even it if means others are getting robbed.
FYP
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08-13-2015 , 07:49 AM
^^^^

Wouldn't the long term health of poker and its reputation be improved if cheaters were immediately outed and ostracized?

Silence and rationalization only benefits the cheaters at the expense of the game and everyone else.

Am I correct, Ike?
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