looool, that was an incredibly bad response. Didn't even think that was possible

Feel pretty bad for the people who lost a lot to "NoelHayes" not realising they were playing stinger88. That reply from stinger is nothing but a kick in the face from him.

Ridiculous he played Blom under Noel as well, that is out right cheating.

Whatever they did or did not do, guys like Haseeb & Zeejustin showed a level of dignity and respect for both themselves and the community. Respect to them.

But this guy??? I said it already: Lance Armstrong level of arrogance.

The dislike is for the cheating and misrepresentation, plus the obvious belief you are above the law and rules.

Almost everyone has respect for people who are successful the legitimate way.

FYP, sorry.

Are you joking? You were caught multi-accounting. Own it instead of acting like people are HATING on you and dragging down the poker world (?!). You're not a victim here lolololololol

ZeeJustin really handled his scandal well. Admitted it was some youthful crayness and changed his ways. Ended up getting his ban lifted from Stars and respect from everyone. Of course both party and stars seized money from him as well.

Nah, Haseeb was a habitual liar and never really stopped

So is this the first time someone VPNd stars?

I'm not saying that what Stinger (allegedly) did isn't wrong, but it wouldn't be the first time someone VPNd.

Did he break the rules? Yes. Should he be punished like everyone else if found guilty? Yes. Is he scum like everyone is saying ITT? I don't think so- at least not as how I am perceiving his intent, but maybe I'm just naive.

Cliffs on Stinger88

• played underage
• cheated isildur for 4millions
• VPN on 888
• multi-account on Stars
• ...
• profits

missing anything?

I never said nor do I believe that I am above laws and rules. You are putting words in my mouth that are untrue. I believe I also said that I'm human and like all humans I make mistakes.

What time is it in Vegas?
i imagine rasva has been partying hard all night to be spouting this nonsense.

lol at that brian. you still aren't answering the issue. why is it so hard for you to understand that the very strong suspicion of multi-accounting would elicit such a response. especially from someone who is a popular 2+2 member.just telling Jason Mercier about your new SN is not enough.i get that VPNing is appealing but its inherently unfair to pros who moved and ppl who play you and dont know that they are playing vs. cheeseburger-dude

"I get the mob mentality to pile on and hate on one who is more successful than the mobsters, but just realize that in an adult world more problems are solved through..."

@ Stinger: it's not about this. If you were homeless after losing millions you would still get the same response for acting as if you can do whatever you like. You can't and no one else can either. One's level of success is irrelevant. You might put a lot of importance on "success" but it doesn't all boil down to this.

Honestly, the arrogance of your initial response was worse than the actual offense.

So. Because of what youve 'given back', it means you can take what you want when you want?

Maybe try re-assessing things. Not always but most of the time when behaviour (and then posts) are widely denounced by a large cross-section of people, then perhaps its an indication that you could have things arse about face.

Its not just NVG-tards (Myself included) and randoms giving you grief.

sweet, I guess then it makes everything you did ok

actions speak louder than words

So how about owning up to said mistakes instead of blaming a mob mentality and jealousy, or guilting people into hiding this stuff because it's 'bad publicity for poker'?

I was a high school teacher. They fired me for banging the students, but I found it funny how in when people were getting mad at me no one every considered all those lessons I taught, papers I graded, clubs I helped run, meetings I planned and ran, and the long late-night tutoring sessions I selfishly ran. Don't you know people make mistake? We need to be growing the teaching profession as a whole, not ****ting on people just trying to slay some tang.

PM sent.

Sleep it off Hastings you're only digging a bigger hole.
Coke is a helluva drug.

This. Before his statement it was possibly something like 70/30 against Stinger with a reasonable amount of folk sticking up for him, but since that ridic arrogant response it's obviously 100% against.

Stinger: maybe you are not thinking straight in this moment? Take a step back and analyse this whole thing better before posting again. I know I have not spared you ITT, but this is some genuine advice.

Sorry, you are in no position to dictate on what terms this discussion will be had. I think I speak for everyone in the poker community when I say that the discussion will take place in this thread for ALL TO SEE. Don't fall for his self-serving and manipulative attempts at handling this via PMs, guys!

The audacity of you is truly shocking and absolutely appalling.
The poker community is already saturated with cheaters, I think we can do without you. Good riddance!

On a serious note, this is a complete joke. Brian, you need some help. Take your winnings and hire a therapist and a PR coach. Slow down.

One other point: This is a slap in the face to the many pros who are hustling around Toronto, Vancouver, the Philippines, Europe, etc. so they can use Stars. They give up life EV for that. Brian just says F that, love slayin' tang in FL gotta play that Stars. Suckers.

This is what is happening here:

1. Brian really cares about what people think about him. See the tweets, the celebrations, the personal responses on his bracelet thread to the congratulations to him, plus the public banter with his girlfriend who loves him for him.

2. Brian feels like **** at the moment because he realizes he's caught and will certainly get banned from Stars/FT for life. Brian probably feels in his heart he didn't harm anyone based upon all sorts of rationalizations. He played well, so why does it matter? Plus, we should be trying to grow the game, right?

3. Brian knew full well the risks he was taking and the public censure he would face. And despite having gone from this before, he's a litttttle too addicted to gambling to pass up the opportunity.

It took his lawyer 3 days to come up with a statement that completely turns a blind eye to the actual issue...don't get it twisted...

The second response was actually worse than the first...I'm 39 and learned alot about poker from guys like you 12 years ago...I used to foam at the mouth for Stars and Tilt to come back to the ol US....now I wish I never played online in the first place...just a big old dick slap across the face...thanks bud

FYP