I'm forced to play on Bovada, I never know who I'm playing.

How can you be so dumb?
It's absolutely all about Brian's evasiveness and lack of transparency. How can anyone not see that?

I'm not dumb, thanks though. I'm pointing out how hypocritical the majority posting here are. I don't particularly agree with what he did or how he handled it, but it makes perfect sense to me why he would. He did nothing different than a lot of people posting here do every single day. The only difference is he's one of the best players in the world and he is too big of a name to play from his account in the US and not immediately get called out if he leaves his house and sees a poker player.

If he was playing NoelAhayes from outside of the US then I see a point to all the hate.

....Which provides a level playing field for everyone involved. (Of course there are collusion aspects to Bovada that one should rightly be concerned about)

Maybe you aren't dumb but you are definitely coming across as clueless.

Just trying to create a level playing field for the conversation. It's hard to crucify 1 individual when a big majority of the people lighting the cross on fire do something very similar. Had he not told multiple people then I see more merit to the hate. I'm not saying it's right at all, but it's a product of the things that many people in this thread helped perpetuate. Bum hunting, scripting, VPNing, ghosting, etc, etc.

The biggest transgression was choosing a whales account, imo.

Yes, it was wrong when Guy was doing it. Where and who do you think he got the idea to do it from?

However, Guy was doing it to avoid public humiliation, not to gain an edge by losing money more slowly. He could be spotted in a moment's notice. It takes a certain personality to become a billionaire and that personality probably isn't a guy that likes to be publicly shamed and reminded of results that prove he sucks at something to do with money. If there was no PTR, no forum ridicules and no ribbing, then he'd still be donating (obv if no uigea) and having a good time doing so.

your posts come off as pretty dumb & if your not dumb, then your probably a pretty miserable human being. it would be better if you were dumb & not someone who has no integrity, sense of fairplay, moral or ethical foundation etc... i hope for your own sake that your quite stupid.

you seem to think cheating only takes place at the highest stakes & that it doesn't matter since we don't play in those games. you realize these cheaters don't ma so they can login and play all their volume with the best players, right? these cheaters never drop down & run over smaller games, right? no, they just around and destroy the top of the food chain for hours on end where their edge is the smallest. and even at high stakes, they never sit players whose game they know inside out & exploit that?

playing under a different account is cheating. passing the information of what account your playing under to other cheaters in your network is how these scumbags justify it. so honorable, but in reality they reveal their accounts to make sure they are given the same info in return.

want to know what the bonus is for all that? all the unsuspecting recs, fish & pros at their normal stakes and below who have no idea they are playing against. can't tell them right? hey, i told the important people: the ikes, deebs, merciers etc..etc.. now let me go filet these fish,k thanks.

when are you going to realize that "the multiple people who he told" were not the players who are & will be the most victimized?

for the most part i have never formed a serious opinion on a person's character based upon their posts in this forum, but i gotta say in the last 10 pages of this thread (and the other thread) it is really becoming obvious who i would prefer to avoid in real life.

https://instagram.com/p/6K761ULdB4/

Mildly interesting photo if you zoom in. It's from his Twitter yesterday.

He's viewing this thread.

Also mentions extending an olive branch to a "Cole".

2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts (PLO and Poker Life episodes).....PG 133-Post #1981 date 6/25/15.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X58u...u.be&t=1h5m20s

Watch the first ten minutes if nothing else.

Hotwarmcold you need to relax. Just trying to further the conversation to something more than an Ike Haxton witch hunt and Stinger hate thread.

The issues are big and need talked about. You're not helping start a conversation, you're piling on.

You mis-spell things like Limon.

U seem to be very inscene. Can you please out some multiaccounts and vpners? Since you say a big majority is operating like this. I play for a living for over 6 years now and im not aware of any people doing this (even though im sure there are some)

It isn't my job to do something like that, I'm nobody. It's probably much less common in other parts of the world, but in the US it's the only way some people can play ROW sites.

zoomed in it reads: "i also sent cole a long olive branch email last night we will see what happens there"

good, he should read this thread. he needs to respond.
oh wait, i'm being self interested again!

Cole or Brian?

ok, who deleted all the posts that included a chat transcript with hastings?

in the transcript he states that his pokerstars account has not been frozen?

can someone with legit pokerstars access try sending him a transfer & see if the account has been suspended or not? does that even still work??

It's been posted several times that the noelhayes account can't receive transfers. Don't know if anyone has tried his main account yet though.

whats his main account?

Stinger885 I think

just brian

Why though? He admitted to everything, what else do you want him to say? I'm more curious about the people that knew about it and didn't say anything. But that's just me I guess.

Whats the over/under on turdstings playing on stars and tilt as stinger885 by christmas? Its a lock he will be imo

he could answer adam's questions for starters.

Repost his questions if you can.