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Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post. Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post.

06-25-2015 , 07:51 AM
Instead of coercing people to sweep cheating under the rug, I think it might be a better approach to not cheat at all.

Absurd post.
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06-25-2015 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinger88
All,

I have been following the thread some but been very busy this summer playing the WSOP. I'm aware of the allegations, but at this time I have nothing to add to the conversation publicly. I stopped caring what strangers on the internet said or thought about me many years ago; otherwise I probably would've jumped off the deep end by now. What I do care about is something like this being a major story in the poker world at a time in which the WSOP is in full force and we should be trying to promote and grow the game of poker, rather than drag it through the mud. Think what you want about me, but one thing I have in common with most people reading this is that we love the game of poker and want to be able to play it freely in the comfort of our own homes. I'm moving back to PA soon to play 400/800 mix live and be closer to Sonya's and my parents, and state regulation of online poker would be a nice cherry on top.

I think especially those of us who are professional poker players should be taking steps to try to promote and grow the game, rather than feeling sorry for themselves because Cardrunners was founded, Black Friday happened, everybody is too good now, etc. With enough hard work, I truly believe that just about anyone (at least anyone smart enough to be browsing 2+2) can make a living playing poker in 2015. I think it's unfortunate that certain people have been on bad runs and choose to take their frustrations out outwardly rather than by trying to self improve, but I get it, it's certainly not always easy. I did not turn a profit in 2 of the previous 3 years, but with an improved mindset, an amazing woman in my life, and a strong work ethic, I've gotten my game back to where it needs to be.

This will be my last post in this thread. If you'd like to discuss further with me I'm just a PM away.

Brian
Translation: "I multi accounted, everyone who's anyone already knew I was multi accounting, and it'd be better for poker if NVG stopped talking about it even though there's really no incentive for them to stop talking about it. But hey, whatever, it's worth a try."
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06-25-2015 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinger88
I think especially those of us who are professional poker players should be taking steps to try to promote and grow the game, rather than feeling sorry for themselves because Cardrunners was founded, Black Friday happened, everybody is too good now, etc. With enough hard work, I truly believe that just about anyone (at least anyone smart enough to be browsing 2+2) can make a living playing poker in 2015. I think it's unfortunate that certain people have been on bad runs and choose to take their frustrations out outwardly rather than by trying to self improve, but I get it, it's certainly not always easy.
Is this a stab at those who outed him? Or is it a jab at NVG? I can't decipher.
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06-25-2015 , 07:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinger88
All,

I have been following the thread some but been very busy this summer playing the WSOP. I'm aware of the allegations, but at this time I have nothing to add to the conversation publicly. I stopped caring what strangers on the internet said or thought about me many years ago; otherwise I probably would've jumped off the deep end by now. What I do care about is something like this being a major story in the poker world at a time in which the WSOP is in full force and we should be trying to promote and grow the game of poker, rather than drag it through the mud. Think what you want about me, but one thing I have in common with most people reading this is that we love the game of poker and want to be able to play it freely in the comfort of our own homes. I'm moving back to PA soon to play 400/800 mix live and be closer to Sonya's and my parents, and state regulation of online poker would be a nice cherry on top.

I think especially those of us who are professional poker players should be taking steps to try to promote and grow the game, rather than feeling sorry for themselves because Cardrunners was founded, Black Friday happened, everybody is too good now, etc. With enough hard work, I truly believe that just about anyone (at least anyone smart enough to be browsing 2+2) can make a living playing poker in 2015. I think it's unfortunate that certain people have been on bad runs and choose to take their frustrations out outwardly rather than by trying to self improve, but I get it, it's certainly not always easy. I did not turn a profit in 2 of the previous 3 years, but with an improved mindset, an amazing woman in my life, and a strong work ethic, I've gotten my game back to where it needs to be.

This will be my last post in this thread. If you'd like to discuss further with me I'm just a PM away.

Brian
so you only turned a profit when you started to blatantly cheat?
You couldn't make this up.
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06-25-2015 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinger88
All,

I have been following the thread some but been very busy this summer playing the WSOP. I'm aware of the allegations, but at this time I have nothing to add to the conversation publicly. I stopped caring what strangers on the internet said or thought about me many years ago; otherwise I probably would've jumped off the deep end by now. What I do care about is something like this being a major story in the poker world at a time in which the WSOP is in full force and we should be trying to promote and grow the game of poker, rather than drag it through the mud. Think what you want about me, but one thing I have in common with most people reading this is that we love the game of poker and want to be able to play it freely in the comfort of our own homes. I'm moving back to PA soon to play 400/800 mix live and be closer to Sonya's and my parents, and state regulation of online poker would be a nice cherry on top.

I think especially those of us who are professional poker players should be taking steps to try to promote and grow the game, rather than feeling sorry for themselves because Cardrunners was founded, Black Friday happened, everybody is too good now, etc. With enough hard work, I truly believe that just about anyone (at least anyone smart enough to be browsing 2+2) can make a living playing poker in 2015. I think it's unfortunate that certain people have been on bad runs and choose to take their frustrations out outwardly rather than by trying to self improve, but I get it, it's certainly not always easy. I did not turn a profit in 2 of the previous 3 years, but with an improved mindset, an amazing woman in my life, and a strong work ethic, I've gotten my game back to where it needs to be.

This will be my last post in this thread. If you'd like to discuss further with me I'm just a PM away.

Brian
This isn't about "promoting and growing the game of poker as a whole."
This isn't about someone "taking their frustrations out on you outwardly rather than trying to self improve."

You know that, but you're deflecting in order to dodge accountability and avoid a hit to your reputation, despite your claim that "I stopped caring what strangers on the internet said or thought about me many years ago."

You're a ****ing coward.
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06-25-2015 , 07:58 AM
what did you exactly try to accomplish with that post stringer? lol
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06-25-2015 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by danfiu
Dunno if it was mentioned but Brian got banned from 888 network for VPN-ing like 2-3 years ago after Black Friday along with some other pros.
The ride never ends with this guy.

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Originally Posted by Stinger88
All,

I have been following the thread some but been very busy this summer playing the WSOP. I'm aware of the allegations, but at this time I have nothing to add to the conversation publicly. I stopped caring what strangers on the internet said or thought about me many years ago; otherwise I probably would've jumped off the deep end by now. What I do care about is something like this being a major story in the poker world at a time in which the WSOP is in full force and we should be trying to promote and grow the game of poker, rather than drag it through the mud. Think what you want about me, but one thing I have in common with most people reading this is that we love the game of poker and want to be able to play it freely in the comfort of our own homes. I'm moving back to PA soon to play 400/800 mix live and be closer to Sonya's and my parents, and state regulation of online poker would be a nice cherry on top.

I think especially those of us who are professional poker players should be taking steps to try to promote and grow the game, rather than feeling sorry for themselves because Cardrunners was founded, Black Friday happened, everybody is too good now, etc. With enough hard work, I truly believe that just about anyone (at least anyone smart enough to be browsing 2+2) can make a living playing poker in 2015. I think it's unfortunate that certain people have been on bad runs and choose to take their frustrations out outwardly rather than by trying to self improve, but I get it, it's certainly not always easy. I did not turn a profit in 2 of the previous 3 years, but with an improved mindset, an amazing woman in my life, and a strong work ethic, I've gotten my game back to where it needs to be.

This will be my last post in this thread. If you'd like to discuss further with me I'm just a PM away.

Brian
Haha oh wow, this might be even worse than the douchey self congratulatory speech you gave after cheating a guy out of 4 million. I cant even.
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06-25-2015 , 08:05 AM
WTF is that rediculous post. No deny of any multi accounting or anything, but the people confronting you should stop spreading the word. It's almost like you seem to think multi-accounting is ok.
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06-25-2015 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinger88
All,

I have been following the thread some but been very busy this summer playing the WSOP. I'm aware of the allegations, but at this time I have nothing to add to the conversation publicly. I stopped caring what strangers on the internet said or thought about me many years ago; otherwise I probably would've jumped off the deep end by now. What I do care about is something like this being a major story in the poker world at a time in which the WSOP is in full force and we should be trying to promote and grow the game of poker, rather than drag it through the mud. Think what you want about me, but one thing I have in common with most people reading this is that we love the game of poker and want to be able to play it freely in the comfort of our own homes. I'm moving back to PA soon to play 400/800 mix live and be closer to Sonya's and my parents, and state regulation of online poker would be a nice cherry on top.

I think especially those of us who are professional poker players should be taking steps to try to promote and grow the game, rather than feeling sorry for themselves because Cardrunners was founded, Black Friday happened, everybody is too good now, etc. With enough hard work, I truly believe that just about anyone (at least anyone smart enough to be browsing 2+2) can make a living playing poker in 2015. I think it's unfortunate that certain people have been on bad runs and choose to take their frustrations out outwardly rather than by trying to self improve, but I get it, it's certainly not always easy. I did not turn a profit in 2 of the previous 3 years, but with an improved mindset, an amazing woman in my life, and a strong work ethic, I've gotten my game back to where it needs to be.

This will be my last post in this thread. If you'd like to discuss further with me I'm just a PM away.

Brian
You´re a ****ing joke man. So what you´re saying is calling YOU out for being a useless cheat is the same as dragging POKER AS A WHOLE through the mud. That´s like a Phil Hellmuth level of delusion. I know you´re way too smart to actually think that, so this makes your pathetic attempt at spinning this even more ridiculous.

Ban this clown already.
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06-25-2015 , 08:06 AM
"Nice" story but totally off topic, since the title of this thread is Brian Hastings accused of Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes"
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06-25-2015 , 08:11 AM
Bro, seriously, F**K this guy!!
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06-25-2015 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by joeri
WTF is that rediculous post. No deny of any multi accounting or anything, but the people confronting you should stop spreading the word. It's almost like you seem to think multi-accounting is ok.
He definitely thinks his multi-accounting is justifiable because of the current legislature. He feels he had to play under someone else's screen name because poor Brian is well-known, thus VPNing from the US on his own Stinger88 account couldn't be done without Pokerstars being notified immediately. So he broke rules (multi-accounting) so that he wouldn't be caught breaking rules (VPNing).

No doubt in my mind with a dismissive mindset like this he's cheated before and will continue to do so. I sincerely hope this ruins his career as we know it. Scumbags like Brian need to be made an example of or this will set an undesirable precedence.
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06-25-2015 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
He definitely thinks his multi-accounting is justifiable because of the current legislature. He feels he had to play under someone else's screen name because poor Brian is well-known, thus VPNing from the US on his own Stinger88 account couldn't be done without Pokerstars being notified immediately. So he broke rules (multi-accounting) so that he wouldn't be caught breaking rules (VPNing).

No doubt in my mind with a dismissive mindset like this he's cheated before and will continue to do so. I sincerely hope this ruins his career as we know it. Scumbags like Brian need to be made an example of or this will set an undesirable precedence.
eh it's common knowledge he's cheated before.
(Now prepare for the flood of "well Isildur was gonna lose anyway" comments)
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06-25-2015 , 08:25 AM
How come people like Chino Rheem and Brad Booth are considered "scum" in 2+2s eyes while Hastings isn't? Not paying back an, initially risky, loan isn't as bad as scamming an entire player pool at the highest stakes. And from the looks of it several times, and in multiple ways.


Absolute joke of a response.
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06-25-2015 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by e i pi
Spoiler:
hate to derail, but this needs more
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06-25-2015 , 08:30 AM
Why not just leave the country for a few months like all the other pros? It's not like Ft Launderdale is some amazing place to live. Also I googled to see how Noel did in scoop because I remember he had a big final table and the first thing that comes up is bakes tweet from May asking if Noel will show up for wsop.

It's obvious no one will really care is everyone already knew, allegedly and he will just get a free pass. Would love to see someone confront him at the rio or poker news try to get an interview.
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06-25-2015 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
No doubt in my mind with a dismissive mindset like this he's cheated before and will continue to do so.
Despite what his nut huggers on here say he did cheat v isildur in my opinion and I agree with your post.

Given what others like ZeeJustin and Mark Teltcher have gone through when caught multi accounting by stars I hope this is investigated properly by them.

going to take a wild stab in the dark however that "NoelHayes" account has long been cashed out and his victims left high and dry.
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06-25-2015 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinger88
All,

I have been following the thread some but been very busy this summer playing the WSOP. I'm aware of the allegations, but at this time I have nothing to add to the conversation publicly. I stopped caring what strangers on the internet said or thought about me many years ago; otherwise I probably would've jumped off the deep end by now. What I do care about is something like this being a major story in the poker world at a time in which the WSOP is in full force and we should be trying to promote and grow the game of poker, rather than drag it through the mud. Think what you want about me, but one thing I have in common with most people reading this is that we love the game of poker and want to be able to play it freely in the comfort of our own homes. I'm moving back to PA soon to play 400/800 mix live and be closer to Sonya's and my parents, and state regulation of online poker would be a nice cherry on top.

I think especially those of us who are professional poker players should be taking steps to try to promote and grow the game, rather than feeling sorry for themselves because Cardrunners was founded, Black Friday happened, everybody is too good now, etc. With enough hard work, I truly believe that just about anyone (at least anyone smart enough to be browsing 2+2) can make a living playing poker in 2015. I think it's unfortunate that certain people have been on bad runs and choose to take their frustrations out outwardly rather than by trying to self improve, but I get it, it's certainly not always easy. I did not turn a profit in 2 of the previous 3 years, but with an improved mindset, an amazing woman in my life, and a strong work ethic, I've gotten my game back to where it needs to be.

This will be my last post in this thread. If you'd like to discuss further with me I'm just a PM away.

Brian
Yeah as I thought, No denial
Anyway i do hope that the ppl who are from the UK whom played with Noel Hayes get in contact with the UKGC to get to the bottom of this incident.
If u say what u mean in the above post i am sure that U would provide any evidence that U have on the subject.
As for the pro's that are calling U out on this, are u responding to them by PM?
Also if anyone has evidence that the Noel Hayes acc is being used to MA then i suggest that Y'all gather the evidence & present it to UKGC & Pstars.
As the Noel Hayes acc did indeed play against UK based players then they must investigate.
What annoys me is that stinger88 acc has played online aswell as Noel Hayes(in same timeframe) not at same time ofc, so if u wanted to play on a new acc to remain anon then don't go back to the old acc. Simple, but controlling 2 acc online is angleshooting at the least.

HAVE A GOOD DAY BRIAN

Last edited by smacc25; 06-25-2015 at 08:54 AM.
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06-25-2015 , 08:36 AM
I was a fan after the podcasts, even with the isildur stuff in the past. That said,

I hope nobody pays his bracelet/fantasy betsz ( i certainly wouldnt) and I hope all his accounts get banned as a minimum.

I do think he had to know it would come out eventually, esp when you are telling people yourself so how he ever thought he could get away with this is beyond me, allthough atm he seems to be succeeding in it.
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06-25-2015 , 08:42 AM
shouldnt be too difficult to confront him about the issue.but as long as the other high stakes regs dont complain to PS, cheesburger-dude aka McBrian aka baby-gap will get another free ride. i personally think that merging handhistories with you buddies is worse than multi-accounting but it is obv still unfair to those who relocated
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06-25-2015 , 08:47 AM
You guys what LuckyGump did at that final table was way worse, and much more of a story.

Brian's just trying to promote the game.
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06-25-2015 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinger88
All,

I have been following the thread some but been very busy this summer playing the WSOP. I'm aware of the allegations, but at this time I have nothing to add to the conversation publicly. I stopped caring what strangers on the internet said or thought about me many years ago; otherwise I probably would've jumped off the deep end by now. What I do care about is something like this being a major story in the poker world at a time in which the WSOP is in full force and we should be trying to promote and grow the game of poker, rather than drag it through the mud. Think what you want about me, but one thing I have in common with most people reading this is that we love the game of poker and want to be able to play it freely in the comfort of our own homes. I'm moving back to PA soon to play 400/800 mix live and be closer to Sonya's and my parents, and state regulation of online poker would be a nice cherry on top.

I think especially those of us who are professional poker players should be taking steps to try to promote and grow the game, rather than feeling sorry for themselves because Cardrunners was founded, Black Friday happened, everybody is too good now, etc. With enough hard work, I truly believe that just about anyone (at least anyone smart enough to be browsing 2+2) can make a living playing poker in 2015. I think it's unfortunate that certain people have been on bad runs and choose to take their frustrations out outwardly rather than by trying to self improve, but I get it, it's certainly not always easy. I did not turn a profit in 2 of the previous 3 years, but with an improved mindset, an amazing woman in my life, and a strong work ethic, I've gotten my game back to where it needs to be.

This will be my last post in this thread. If you'd like to discuss further with me I'm just a PM away.

Brian
Hahahahaha, ah hahaha
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06-25-2015 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
He definitely thinks his multi-accounting is justifiable because of the current legislature. He feels he had to play under someone else's screen name because poor Brian is well-known, thus VPNing from the US on his own Stinger88 account couldn't be done without Pokerstars being notified immediately. So he broke rules (multi-accounting) so that he wouldn't be caught breaking rules (VPNing).


No doubt in my mind with a dismissive mindset like this he's cheated before and will continue to do so. I sincerely hope this ruins his career as we know it. Scumbags like Brian need to be made an example of or this will set an undesirable precedence.
+1
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06-25-2015 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinger88
What I do care about is something like this being a major story in the poker world at a time in which the WSOP is in full force and we should be trying to promote and grow the game of poker, rather than drag it through the mud.
Translation:

"The problem isn't that I cheat. The problem is that people call me out for cheating."

It's because of scummy shameless pieces of **** like Hastings that online poker has such a bad rep.
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06-25-2015 , 08:55 AM
Seriously: Stars has strict rules against this and prides themselves on taking stuff like this seriously. Have they been notified / made a statement of any kind? He's essentially just admitted to it. Stars: where you at?
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