Did they name drop Daniel or Ike? What were your thoughts on how they portrayed it? Thx

Your brain is hurted.

Seriously, I'm only giving you the courtesy of a few replies since you are a long-time 2+2 account holder so likely not trolling. You admitted to opening new accounts. If this is on a site that forbids this practice, then you are cheating and your personal thoughts about whether it is or not does not matter.

Tbh, you sound like a reg that was getting his ass handed to him daily and assumes that everyone must be cheating him but it's really because they have a line on your play, due to history, and so you start anew with a new name to gain back some edge as needed. Not an uncommon tale...

I like you

he's answer was yes and no.



pffff,come on moki. Eventho i dont like u for losing your faith over the
year on viktor,i really think u are smarter than that.

I dont know Bleznick either more than all the accusation over years to his name. I also know that when any reg/bumhunter get pounded hard by a new acc it,s the norm to adress that acc to Bleznick.Therefore we should
assume he has over 20 acc's. lol

Wat i do know it's smell bs from a liar.
When he was asked what he thinks of MA,we got this;

-"ahhhhhh,i mean mmmmmmmmmmm ,you know....
ahhhh first of all i want to say this....ahhh you know..... people..ahhh"
,......ppl likes to say oh that acc its me of that acc and a lot of that is bs..
-have u ever done it ?
(3 long seconds of silence ) ahhhblaablaaaa have i ever done it?
-yes
-ahhh mmm abhaa i have ever done it ? aahh i mean ..
-have u ever play on a diff acc,have u ever play on a diff name?
- have i ever play on a diff acc?

those long awkward 3 seconds of silence followed by even more awkward
aablabfgghaaabla and not to mention he repeat not once but
3 times the question cause he had not idea what to say.

he basically said that every1 always complaining about MA are bad losers
and all the hate on BH is from ppl that are jealous of his succes.

if u are not trolling about him coming over pretty genuine,man those are worst live reading skills ive see'n in a while.

The bottom line is it's fraud.

Guy playing on a different name? Deception, yes, but not fraud because everyone would be willing to play with him.

JoePro123 playing on his own name on a VPN in the states? Breaks the ToS, but no deception. Bad for the overall health of the games but at least no deception of peers at the table.

Playing on another name to get high stakes cash action and playing players who wouldn't knowingly play you? FRAUD, and it's stealing large sums out of the poker community.

Now, of course, this seemingly happens all the time and is a reason why Brian doesn't feel bad about it, all his friends do it so why are you giving him a hard time? You must just be jealous!

But its still fraud and terrible for the game and maybe if he thought on either a MACRO or MICRO level he'd realize it's pretty scummy, wrong, and awful for the game.

His reaction to this is what made this such a huge deal. It gave many people a glimpse of how deluded many cheaters can be, and of course it will become a bigger deal the more popular you are and the more money you take out of the poker community. It's also a huge deal and stayed a story because of the apparent Stars cover up aspect to it.

Stars allowing name changes is an embarrassingly simple solution to this problem.

This is spot on.

Also I would imagine it would break money laundering regulations if they where aware one person was playing high stakes on another players account.

id be satisfied with the truth. crazy me.

hey moki, wheres this hilarious photoshop referenced by arty? i like lolz and yuk yuks.

FWIW, I'm also keen on establishing the truth. Unfortunately, I don't know of many companies worth 5 billion dollars that share the same ideal. Pokerstars could be more transparent about some of its business practices, but it chooses not to. I would have appreciated a public statement from Stars as soon as the "scandal" reached NVG, but Stars doesn't seem to do that kind of thing much any more. It seems the strategy decided upon when this thread appeared was to "Say nothing and hope it goes away". At this late stage, I doubt Stars (or any of its Team Pros) will comply with the demands of a bunch of rabid forum posters. Stars doesn't negotiate with terrorists.

The image that made me laugh was this one. (A nice little joke in a pretty depressing thread).

Something tells me Limon would be satisfied with the truth that he'll believe which is that Stars is involved. Other than that, Limon will turn a blind eye to "the truth" like Stars has to this issue.

Tbf actually, pokerstars have been very vocal and transparent with alot of the stars related threads, like the Jeans hotel scandal among others. Give it time guys.

you might want to stop paying attention to that "something" that is talking to you. Its dumb as hell, I mean pathetically stupid.

nice photoshop I lol'd.

irt stars, it doesnt matter what stars wants, theyre part of the problem. im not throwing up the white flag. Shady companies have stonewalled the poker community before and had that wall torn down one brick at a time. everyday i hope to move one brick. These sponsored pros still see hope even though they are dead men walking. at some point one will see it is far more beneficial to their career to be the first one to come clean than it is to be first one to be "let go" (fired). The arc of history is long but it bends towards justice.

limon is the nuts

This is not true.

You're bright, literate and somewhat in the loop. But you piss it away on petty insults and contempt.

As they say, "Too bad, could've been a force..."

+1

Limon,

Do you have any reason to disbelieve or can you disprove the Lee Jones statement that Stars is prohibited by its regulations from mentioning actions against a specific account. He basically said that their disciplinary actions are never public because of this regulation. I agree with your points, but if this regulation is real then they would never make a statement about Hastings even if they have taken action against him, though we would know if they drop related pros and could speculate why. Is it not possible that at least in part this cover up is influenced by how they manage their regulators?

We all know that most people on stars will lose and leave, so using poker celebrities for customer acquisition is a huge part of their strategy. It would make a lot more sense for them to burn one or two pros then damage the overall customer acquisition strategy. This is even more true if there are many people doing this as they can burn a few publicly thus sending a message to the rest to cut it out without linking them to the problem.

"As they say"?? Literally, no one has ever said that in the history of the internet. I goooooogled it cuz im "bright" and "literate". Someone almost said it once about Greg Oden in a Raptors forum.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22Too+bad%2C+c...a+force...%22+

So, as they say, "you are an imbecile..."

incorrect

[x] automatic rebuttal
[x] insult included
[x] feedback offered but ignored
[x] good points made from time to time
[x] but diluted by resort to petty point-scoring

For what it's worth, I wasn't offering anything other than feedback.

this is quoted many times itt as the most obvious solution but;
how do we or stars deal with bots than ?

edit : limon, my and huge respect for your efforts,you clearly loves this game.

The same core account, with persons name and address, would be tied to any name changes, so if it was banned for being a bot there would be no difference to how it is now. It would just be a user name change not having multiple accounts for the same person. I think this would be a great thing for the game as it would increase action tremendously. Party poker used to have this option back in the day, I think there was a time limit for how often you could change it.

can confirm that lots of coke and too much mdma makes grinding poker very difficult.

like if stars did deal with bot in the past...