Agree with all.
the isi match scandal...stupid
bracelet bet whining....ridiculously stupid
MAing the in what I presume is a tiny player pool...indefensible

the thing is, you and moki are taking stinger at his word, which isn't super useful considering exactly what he said is exactly what you should say whether or not something more nefarious was going on

Are you talking about the Isi match? Yeah, we don't know exactly what was going on, just like we don't know whats exactly been going on in any of crazy nosebleed action. Galfond Urin & Dwan could of all been doing much much worse vs Guy for more $$. Not a fan of any of the teamplay stuff, doubt many really are but its online gambling what can be done about it? The players are going to do what the sites allow them to do, whether it be TVing each other during sessions or sharing HHs, using "dream machines" or whatever it may be, if everyone wants someone to blame for the "scuminess" of nosebleeds go after the sites imo. Choosing one guy to completely villianize because he happened to bust everyone's fav degen is just kind of silly.

How about you post a direct link to said podcast (specific xx:xx would be appreciated). I only just looked up Joey´s profile on HSDB and funnily enough, he´s actually a loser (-$40k). As for the biggest ever hand, your post doesn´t even begin to make sense. JoeIngram1´s biggest pot is something like $70k and he flopped the nuts vs overpair+oesd vs Jeans89. Just look at the hand and you will realize that the entire hand was a no brainer, and nobody would need Stinger to tell them what to do in that hand.

The no multi-accounting rule has always been near impossible to enforce, as is gathering data-mined hands, to me that suggests if no rule gets put in place to stop it, your kind of a fool to (a) not use it (b) assume poker players won't be using this against you.

I would make the case BH is actually a pretty honest guy as he's always admitted these tactics to ppl before being accused.

re: Isildur1. Victor Blom is smart enough to survive at high stakes for years on end, but couldn't work out that 2 or 3 pros from the same coaching site that play him in succession might discuss his strategy and buy datamined hands for $20 for a $4m game? Victor knew exactly what these guys would be doing away from the tables and he still chose to play.

does pokerstars can do anything?

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I dont even, cut the blom-crap already, he had at that point not even played much PLO. He was going to bust no doubt. Although huge difference buying hands and actually get access to thousands of hands that other played because they shared hand histories with each other but still not a fault to cling on to imo ( due to the ability to see mucked hands at showdown which you do not do as an observer/hand scraper ).
regardless of that - if not to stinger then to someone else. Just happened alot sooner than people expected when he ran 30 bi above EV in the dreamender.


I do believe bracelet bettors have a legitimate whine, as did Sagström vs Ivey in the golf-bet. Ivey issued a bet on a 18-course game with his handicap he had 3 months prior when they golfed together last time, but it was lowered by then with like 10 shots, he failed to "mention" that he had hired a top coach and practiced 3 hours a day for months straight and thus had no need for his hcp of 18 or whatever anymore as he were in the singledigits, there was no way of knowing this, none had played with Ivey since nor had he implied as such eiether, he even asked forhis old hcp to make sure, this is hugely different to any bet that is "ok, FISTFIGHT4ROLLZ IN THE OCTAGON IN 3 MONTHS, GL HF" then both parties will do their best to achieve the maximum improvement.
but sure, dishonesty seem okay with you folks. Sagström did pay up but walked out halfway through the game in protest. I do not see much difference here, it´s the nature of bets I get that, but still ugly. In fairness of a bet the available information should be equal on both sides, Hastings obv had an advantage of playing anonymous online, which was impossible for the opposing bettors to know or even find out. That is the crux of it all imo, it was IMPOSSIBLE to know. Not that they were careless, they just had no way of looking it up unless they were in the glorious circle of secrets.

edit: Maybe it would change the preface of the opposing bettors maybe it wouldnt, but id say it pretty damn crucial to know that Hastings are so good in the mixed games that he doesnt even get action online 2015 as that probably(i wouldnt know nor am i smart enough to figure it out) changes the EVbracelet-context of the bet significantly, fields are much much smaller in limitgames so if he is doing okay or actually crushing everyone online is a huge difference.

pics of stinger GF required plz.

+1


People make bets with the intention of having an advantage

Lets not forget that during the 10 game final table Hastings accused the Russian guy 'LuckyGump' of angling on twitter. Making a huge deal out of something relatively small.

And now all this **** comes out.

What an absolute scumbag.

Dunno if it was mentioned but Brian got banned from 888 network for VPN-ing like 2-3 years ago after Black Friday along with some other pros.

...and the plot thickens.

Hastings is pretty scummy but he tries to show ethics and moral on the outside.. His eye blinks have me on life tilt

Source?

Agreed

Really scummy to MA at high stakes. Hope PokerStars investigate.

Any word from Stars?

Who is the 'pstars pro' that baker is referring to?? DNEGS?

Playing in those games I'm gonna guess Mercier?

All,

I have been following the thread some but been very busy this summer playing the WSOP. I'm aware of the allegations, but at this time I have nothing to add to the conversation publicly. I stopped caring what strangers on the internet said or thought about me many years ago; otherwise I probably would've jumped off the deep end by now. What I do care about is something like this being a major story in the poker world at a time in which the WSOP is in full force and we should be trying to promote and grow the game of poker, rather than drag it through the mud. Think what you want about me, but one thing I have in common with most people reading this is that we love the game of poker and want to be able to play it freely in the comfort of our own homes. I'm moving back to PA soon to play 400/800 mix live and be closer to Sonya's and my parents, and state regulation of online poker would be a nice cherry on top.

I think especially those of us who are professional poker players should be taking steps to try to promote and grow the game, rather than feeling sorry for themselves because Cardrunners was founded, Black Friday happened, everybody is too good now, etc. With enough hard work, I truly believe that just about anyone (at least anyone smart enough to be browsing 2+2) can make a living playing poker in 2015. I think it's unfortunate that certain people have been on bad runs and choose to take their frustrations out outwardly rather than by trying to self improve, but I get it, it's certainly not always easy. I did not turn a profit in 2 of the previous 3 years, but with an improved mindset, an amazing woman in my life, and a strong work ethic, I've gotten my game back to where it needs to be.

This will be my last post in this thread. If you'd like to discuss further with me I'm just a PM away.

Brian

So no denial then, thanks for posting though.

Yeah, let's all multi-account to promote poker so you don't have to feel sorry for yourself and blame others for your lack of character.

Disgraceful.

Unreal.

You should be a politician the way you danced around that lol

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