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Originally Posted by .isolated
Naive decisions? He set out to cheat and did so. As I mentioned earlier, I have no problems with the Isildur stuff but the paying back and Noel Hayes stuff is far far far from naive.
Naive reactions? He's an adult and he shouldn't be such a d-bag. For such a great poker player he sure does lack a great deal of logic in life.
Shamed like a rapist? GTFO. He deserves some heat for being an ******* and a cheater. He doesn't deserve to die or be raped or whatever the **** you think is happening here.
Didn't expect that reference to be taken quite so literally. My point was the piling on is excessive considering the transgression. In large part because he's been getting harassed about the isildur match for years (which was nothing) and painted black by part of NVG bc of it. At what point should he be allowed to move on? There is no consensus about how to handle this correctly as far as $ is concerned.
He's already taken a ****load of heat for the Noel incident (compounded bc of people groveling about isildur). I agree the way he used Noel's image was a bad unethical decision. This has been admitted & he's done more than most to try and make amends. Imo he doesn't owe a direct $ for $ reimbursement to opponents. It's something to get pissed about but doesn't disqualify prior betting actions. Playing against a misrepresented SN is an inherent risk of online poker that everyone playing those stakes understood before they sat down.
We could debate the semantics of playing online from the US post Black Friday at different stakes. Regardless, there's a big difference between his behavior within the game and someone like harrington25 (or even the Dang brothers, looking back what they did would be considered incredibly fked up today... no one cared so much bc of how the sites selectively enforced their T & C regarding multiple accounts... that set poor precedent & created a gray area that should have never existed). Based on the intensity and verbiage of the responses here it seems like BH is being grouped in a similar category as someone like Bleznik.
If you don't like his attitude that's fine. I don't agree with all of Brian's perspectives. However, considering my view of the "high stakes community" (not really positive or negative) I think a lot of his sentiments are logical based on the life he's lived (cutthroat Mano a mano competition on a daily basis, HS poker is intense if you want to stay there). I think he's a genuinely good person at his core. This is based on his CR vids, 2+2 posts (for a long time he was a very valuable poster... one of the most accessible and helpful top players that posted here) and playing at the tables. I've always found him to be respectful and more than willing to help other people. I like that.
Hope that clarifies things a bit.
As far as the dude who said I have a warped view of the world, I just don't know how to respond. Not sure what you're getting at.. Maybe??
Last edited by Kidman411; 12-01-2016 at 11:44 PM.