http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...msayuhh-22026/

My guess is a lot of people never saw this thread. There was a maturity stage in the middle but just by his general mannerisms and his attitude toward things I don't think it would really surprise anybody if he did something of this nature again, which he's kind of done.

That talk of the "awake 30+ hours skype convo" definitely makes it sound like he's an addict, clearly both to whatever his DOC is plus gambling.

As a result I have some tiny bit of sympathy for him, but I remember what an ass he made of himself not too long ago in the NVG high stakes thread (the incident that started out with "don't you guys have anything better to do?"), and unless he was high at that time he seems to have character defects a lot deeper than can be explained wholly by the nature of the addict.

This is bad news for people who speak words, but ChangeItUp isn't using the word incorrectly (as of sometime last year):

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/15/living...ly-definition/


Otoh, he did botch "satire"

link?

I don't think the silence is unique to them - I'm sure there are others that would act in a similar fashion. I agree it's a problem, though.

But I think this highlights a bit of a difference in the way things are handled in those forums. I'm pretty sure that quite a few years back, all the transfer posts were getting moved into the Internet Poker transfers thread, which is pretty strictly modded. But HS still wanted their own thread, so that's what they got. It's very possible that exactly the same thing would've happened in the IP thread if transfers were all forced there, as CD had obviously built up some trust, but I still can't help but wonder if the substantially more laissez-faire attitude in other forums contributes to this sort of thing.

I'm trying to get my head around this part. How could posting something about this earlier mean that you would be 100% screwed? If the guy intends to pay you back, I find it hard to believe that you posting your concerns makes you anywhere remotely close to 100% screwed. The kind of person that won't pay you back if you post something is the kind of person that isn't paying you back at all no matter what you do. It's not like you have to post that the guy is a scammer, but if one of you had simply mentioned that he was being a bit slow, you're sure you'll get paid but you thought it was worth mentioning, etc., it sounds like the whole web of lies would have been revealed a lot earlier.

Wow, that is horrifying. Merriam-Webster sucks. Literally, according to them.

It started with this post:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=181

And after he was done spazzing in the HS thread, he made this thread in the HSNL forum:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...hread-1218720/

But guys I'm sure he never meant to do it and he is really sorry and he wants to make things right as soon as he can he just got in a really bad spot at a dark time in his life. He is really just a victim here. All the success early just went to his head.

Literally just trying to be satirical or something.

lol this post from July 2012 seems to have come true

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=248


Also funny that he was calling someone ELSE a scumbag for not paying on a $1k bet

Most likely just saving up for a new surfboard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9gna46OUAc

posted this thread on vancouver poker on facebook. he responded!

Brandon Barnes I haven't had laptop access in over a week, I haven't had a chance to respond etc. insanely disgusting how things have gone nuts like this even tho I kept in contact with everyone except two people through having no laptop, puking blood for days etc. everyone will get paid. Also know Jason mo has taken it upon himself to threaten my family, tell me to go kill myself literally, and many other disgusting things while I didn't initiate a thing with him.
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Brandon Barnes I understand the reaction of many people and I am not claiming to have done nothing wrong. I neglected responding, and went in to a hole of depression and even had a week long relapse after a year sober. But I am healthy again aside from the non life threatening surgery at this point and will make sure everyone is take care of. I never will claim to make great decisions always and I have done some ****ed up things wrt to drugs etc but I always make things right and this is no different. I was in a deep dark place of depression anxiety and suicidal thoughts constantly, and I made mistakes during that time period. I will not let the negative people like Jason win and hurt myself
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Brandon Barnes I refuse to do that. I will make everything right just give me time
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Brandon Barnes Ryan I have kept in constant contact with the fantasy people an had paid a massive sum back to them
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Brandon Barnes So you can use false info to slander me all you want
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Brandon Barnes There are several people I have paid back including the fantasy people over the last few months and have had successful transactions so it's not like I'm out here stealing every ones money
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Brandon Barnes Like I said everyone will get paid that's all I can say. It will obviously take longer than I originally said and I apologize for that, I did **** up. But the rest is just being misinformed and only hearing one side of the story
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Brandon Barnes I will be online by Monday to address everyone on 2p2
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Brandon Barnes Ij the mean time pm me here and I'll respond as I can with no laptop

Even considering what CompeteDonk did, that's ****ed up Klink.

nailed it!

He just replied to an email telling me that he will get internet back tomorrow or monday and will be able to sent back on stars. I really hope that works out.

in before he pays back 20% of the money he owes to everyone and expects a pat on the back

I'll buy his debt at 21%, not pats on backs required.

I don't think I misunderstood anything. You clearly wrote that you thought your options were going public and getting 100% screwed, or keeping quite and having a chance to get your money back. What did I misunderstand?

What did Bobo misunderstand? Because I think he understood exactly the same I did.

Look, my logic is: You chose to keep quite, risking that others get screwed (your words). You did so because you wanted to get as much of your own money back as possible. That was helping Brandon to screw other people. You were partially paid with money Brandon stole from other people because you chose to keep quite.

People are out a lot of money, and they are because you kept quite knowing this could happen. You now have some of that money.

Now you say you are not accountable because people chose to do business with Brandon. Would they have done that if you chose to protect the community over maximising your equity?

If people were accountable in cases like that, than you wouldn't have kept quite. Brandon might have screwed you, but also might have tried to get it right; who knows. People wouldn't have gotten screwed for the money they planned to pay the rent with.

What do you mean with you don't want to make that a personal discussion.. for now? Lol, I shiver. Let me make something clear: I deeply disgust your stance, knowingly risking that people get screwed to have a better shot to get paid (again, your words). I think it's completely unethical. I think that you are morally obliged to pay the people that were screwed because of your behaviour; with the money you received because you enabled the theft of it.
Of course you won't, so we can stop discussing anyway. Hope you enjoy that money.

To all the victims that were screwed because others kept quite for whatever reason: I wish you all the best, and hope to get your money back.

To the people that could have prevented the theft of money: I hope you have at least the decency to let others get paid before you.

There's a decent chance that Brandon would think "whatever, my reputation is ruined anyway, why should i pay back anyone at all?"

Besides that, not posting about it might be a good decision businesswise for him. For example if he thinks he's way more likely to get paid back before other people. In case he outs him, other people will try to arrange some sort of payment plan so everybody gets a little piece or something like that. That's not in his best interest if he thinks he might be the first or second person to get paid otherwise.

I'm feeling really bad for people who have been friends with a somebody for years before they get scammend. But if you're doing transfers with somebody you only know through the internet (facebook friends or not) and maybe have met two or three times in real life, that's just a business transaction. Everybody knows the risks and was willing to take them.

He just made a business decision. He didn't screw anybody. It's perfectly fine for him to try to get paid first. No need to call somebody a POS for that.

can someone clarify if klink10k really is



or if im being trolled by internets?

what is the point of a post like this ryan? you do know there is no "like" button on 2+2 right? if brandon paid down 20% of what he owed we should all give him a pat on the back, because he is doing the right thing, and that should be encouraged. your snarkiness does nothing to help the people owed get paid back.


Hope you can stay sober and get this sorted ASAP brandon.

classic

brandon made a bunch of posts in the vancouver poker FB group... sharing the ones that seem most relavent(him and daut went back and forth for a while). he claims to have paid back 2 people since the creation of this thread, if true that is a good sign.

obv take this all with a grain of salt based on his history. just relaying info.


Brandon Barnes If you can have any one that feels theyre owed email me at brandonchristopherbarnes@gmail
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Brandon Barnes I have paid back at least 2 people in the time frame of this thread being up and now
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Brandon Barnes To think I'm gonna run away in to the night is absurd
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Brandon Barnes Nick ran I've never run and have been making payments for a year
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Brandon Barnes I'm not playing the victim card in any way, and I've kept in touch with the ffl, paid them back a lot, and have been contacting everyone else one by one. How about you let
The facts come out and let me work things out with people before you say more untrue things please

Brandon Barnes I can't stop you from posting but I just ask you kindly to speak to people I've owed and paid back in the last year or two, And you'll come
To the conclusion me running away is very unlikely

if thats true please reply and brandon pls pay me as soon as possible - i have to to pay my rent... and other stuff its nasty urgent for me to get this sorted out as soon as possible. i havent heard anything from you since days.....

I hope so. Makes his attitude a little more amusing.

what a load of bull**** about keeping in contact with people. he has not responded to a text, call, fb, or skype message from me in 13 days. in that time he has used my name to get other people to transfer him $ and i found out yesterday played 25/50 plo vs isildur and 25/50 nlhe vs ike haxton with my money.

i have sent him multiple messages since this thread came up yesterday and still have heard no response. i know he has seen at least the facebook messages i've been sending the last 2 weeks because fb informs he has "seen" them.