All this supposedly superior AI and they design a UI straight out of 1998. gjge

no money playing bots hu they are all solid

Truer than you believe. I think we are watching the end of online poker play out in this Brains v AI match.

glad i play 6max

ok im no pro at hunl by a long shot but i tuned into dongs stream for literally a few mins and i saw some (imo) atrocious play (or was it super good??)

libratus raises to 350 from button and dong calls with 32os??? i mean calling a 3.5x open with the worst starting hand in heads up seems like a bad play to me. again my hu graph doesnt match dongs but come on!!! and then the flop was 322. he flopped a boat and then fired out 448 into a 700 pot and libratus folded....again im no expert but i think its a pretty obvious fold preflop and check flop to induce and let libratus catch up.

i mean you should probably fold the absolute bottom of your range OOP for 3.5x open. the GTO bot probably knows this right????????? i can see mixing in some calls with suited junk hands for balance but even some 32s should be thrown away maybe??? i dont know.

maybe after 4 times 7-10 hr days + the group discussing strategy every night and reviewing hands = him having a better grasp on what to do and how to try to exploit the bot than someone watching and pointing out a random play and calling it bad

lol

Bot 250, Jason 3375 w/ A2o, Bot jam

Peculiar sizing by Jason not to say the least. Had I seen that pan out on actual money site, my initial thought would've been chipdump

lol

SO in todays matches do you know which are the pairs of players who get identical boards ?if it is les kai dong kim if i watch hand 144 on the left of dong kim it will be the same board on 144 on the left of les?Or the numbers are random so as nothing strange happen

Ya I hear you. Think he would be checking his whole range including when he flops the nuts with 32o lol. But then again they are on like 10 levels above us.

I have seen many times where they check twice then fire a half pot bet on the river with 8 high and I'm thinking ??? But it gets through


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I didn't see the hand but I'd lay like 10:1 that the action was bot limp/calling the 350 and folding to Dong's c-bet.

another fun libratus hh

minraise 95o otb, dougiedan calls

flop AJx one diamond, dougie checks, libratus bets 3400 into 400. dougie has bdfd and calls.

turn 9, check check. river blank, check check. dougie wins with A6dd for the one pair.

Humans seem to be smashing AI today.

Jason and Dong are paired every day, and the other two every day. Yes left/right match so on hand 201 on left table Dong has the hand that the bot got vs Jason on same hand on left table. Same boards.

thanks a lot.

Yea that 32s hand seems strange. I thought donk leading was always suboptimal. Just watch a Doug Polk video. Does this mean they think bot makes mistakes vs a donk bet? Seems like an obvious play to counter though

i thought GTO couldn't be exploited? isn't this bot supposed to model or approximate a GTO solution?? im sure he thinks it was the correct play otherwise he wouldn't have made it and he is in a more informed position than me thats correct. however i still think calling 3.5x opens OOP with 32os is LOL BAD! i really doubt im wrong that the GTO play in that spot is fold pre. move on to the next hand. i would like to hear him explain why he thinks calling is better than folding there.

has anyone considered the possibility of these pros tanking the challenge on purpose?? maybe to advertise how "bad" they are and get action at high stakes they might not have otherwise got??

thats the only explanation i can come up with for some of these plays. like mathematically raising to 34x to win 2.5x with A2os only to have to fold to a shove seems like an incredibly big leak. you'd have to win 14 pots preflop that way to make up for the one pot you lost. and thats the best case scenario, the hand ends preflop. if the bot just calls with AA or whatever sometimes in position Jason is probably going to be punting away a lot more money. the bot is going to have enough value all-in hands to make this an obvious losing bet imo.

i think checking twice and firing half pot on river with no SDV is a good play. the bot wont have much to call with himself in this spot. maybe it hero calls with ace high sometimes king high and folds worse.

my $100 to your $1000? booked. in my honors science class in middle school we had a quiz where we looked at a scene of an intersection and store fronts for a few minutes than we had to answer questions based on what we could remember. i had the highest score with 25/30 correct. the next best score in the class was 16/30 and the average for the class was 8. the purpose of the exercise was to show us how much we miss. well... how much the average person misses. this was an honors class.

dont think you actually want to make that bet.

even if it did happen the way you think it happened, raising to 3.5x OOP with 32os is almost as atrocious as calling.


i think these pros are leveling us. is that how they play hunl vs humans??? !3b to 34x with A2os then fold to jam??? calling 3.5x raises OOP with 32os??? clearly a level. when the bot inevitably wins i dont think that tells us much except that these pros tanked the match IMO. how much practice at hunl have they been getting before this competition?? i mean hunl has dried up right? these guys must be rusty tin cans or just leveling the whole poker community.

raise 274 call
check bet 339 call
bet 306 call
bet 18380 (smash the 10xPOT btn and leave 701 behind for breakfast) (fold)

(btw, capital letters in the action sequence indicate human action, k=check)

Love bot and bot technology

8.71bb/100. on the plus side, humans almost breaking even for ~11k hands after rough -130k start in first 6k hands, jason and jimmy winning, lots of hands left let's goooo

Thanks for keeping it positive

Hey guys this is Jason Les. I want to explain to you an unfortunate event that happened today during the Brains Vs AI competition.

At the start of each session and each table we enter a seed number to randomly generate our hands. Dong and I use the same seed numbers so our hands are mirrored.

I was instructed to enter a several digit seed number and I asked for the CMU representative to confirm it was correct. Coincidentally today I also asked for them to be confirmed on server side so we never make the mistake of playing hands that have to be invalidated.

Unfortunately that happened today on my Session 2 Table 1. As a result Dong and I played two separate strings of 350 hands. The CMU team and us are in agreement the hands have to be invalidated in order to preserve the integrity of the competition. Therefore, Dong and I are now 350 hands behind Jimmy/Dan and we will have to make them up at some point.

From a results oriented point of view it sucks because I won approximately 28k off that table and Dong won approximately 30k. We still had a winning day but unfortunately not as good as we INITIALLY thought. I wanted you guys to know this so you understood why we only gained 40k today when it would appear much more if you were watching on stream.

In order to prevent his from happening again, CMU will now be responsible for setting up every match. Therefore we will no longer have any responsibility on a match setup so if this happens again, it won't be our fault and the hands will have to stand as is.

See you guys on stream tomorrow!

sucks, pretty brutal/annoying to have happen, they probably should have been responsible for this from the start


edit: also let's hope no matter what it doesn't come down to a margin of ~58k chips

that must be super tilting... sry to hear hopefully no more hiccups like that that cost you time / effort / motivation .. gl tommorow

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Luckily Jason and Dong are easy-going blokes, so I am sure that nothing more than mild epithets were uttered under their breath.

Good luck cheet and humans.