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02-20-2023 , 01:04 PM
From Brads twitter:

"Today I got smoked and I think I lost $150,000 or something. My biggest loss by 5x. YT doesnÂ’t pay as much as you might think. This one ****ing hurts. IÂ’ll be back tomorrow though."
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02-20-2023 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LimpDitka
From Brads twitter:

"Today I got smoked and I think I lost $150,000 or something. My biggest loss by 5x. YT doesnÂ’t pay as much as you might think. This one ****ing hurts. IÂ’ll be back tomorrow though."
The use of sympathy to influence followers is a standard cyber begging technique. Well played statement by Brad Owen. He'll recoup his losses quickly from his followers' sympathy.
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02-20-2023 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackJackDegen
Even if he is the nice guy that his blogs portray, he is still boring AF. His success on youtube is one of the most head-scratching things I have ever seen. I tried watching him a few times and I would rather watch paint dry. Even if I can't see the value in something myself I can usually see why it appeals to the masses but his popularity as a blogger is something I completely don't understand. He even has some kind of dour air about him that puts me in bad form when I see his blogs. He always looks like his cat has just died.
Brad has put out some exceptional vlogs. Not saying they're all gems but some have just been amazing. He's masterful at creating a story from a session, full of suspense and dram and with perfect pacing. I haven't seen any of vlogger come close to Brad's best vids.
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02-20-2023 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
He's a super good dude. Felt a bit sorry for him as he bemoaned the chat pros and other social media users giving him a hard time lately.

Mad respect to him for shooting his shot with such a big piece of himself. Would have been sick to see him win half a mill.

How big of a piece did he have?
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02-20-2023 , 01:22 PM
Seems like quite a lot of questionable BRM going on over at the lodge

Caitlin Comeskey stuck in 100bb at 50/100 the other day and lost and it was the biggest pot she's ever played
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02-20-2023 , 01:29 PM
Slow Poker is the best poker vlogger out there. Hilarious and highly recommend.

Surprised nobody has mentioned Brad’s tweet. I get that he was tilting and all that but those types of insults aren’t helpful. It feeds the trolls who seem to be giving him a hard time about his losses. It also may turn off some of his regular viewers who either think he’s calling them dumb or who thought he wasn’t the type to insult others like that. His hardcore followers will support it but seems like a -ev PR move.
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02-20-2023 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
Slow Poker is the best poker vlogger out there. Hilarious and highly recommend.
He's great but there are only so many ways one can spin entertainment out of hours and hours of nit folding.
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02-20-2023 , 01:39 PM
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02-20-2023 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Would've been a good comeback if it wasn't for him just beforehand saying how big of a loss he took compared to ever before and how it hurt
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02-20-2023 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TampaKn1sh
Surprised there wasn't a thread about this. He played a 100/200 game and lost 115K on stream, then the next day played 200/400 and lost another 78K on stream.

While others at the table were drinking, chatting and laughing he pretty much sat there looking miserable both nights and didn't really engage socially.

I too would be mildly annoyed losing money hand over fist in an insanely soft game thats like 10x-20x the normal stakes i play.
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02-20-2023 , 02:20 PM
What % of himself did Brad have in these games?
It kind of seems like maybe Brad's vlog got popular faster than his skill level has improved.

I like his vlog, but he never struck me as good enough to be playing at the highest stakes. His hand analysis always seems to be at a level slightly below that of Andrew Neeme, and I don't know of Neeme ever playing this high. I would have guessed that Owen was a winner in the Vegas 5/10 games, but would probably be an underdog against the regular 10/20 player pool.

I can understand his desire to play in these sort of games for the publicity, but the risk just seems so large, especially since YouTube views are never going to make 200k in a year for any poker vlogger. The one video I've seen of him playing 100/200 (several months ago), he came away a winner, but seemed to be playing scared money, which would probably make him a losing player even against less than top competition.
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02-20-2023 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TampaKn1sh

While others at the table were drinking, chatting and laughing he pretty much sat there looking miserable both nights and didn't really engage socially.
I get it. Ur loverboy was playing live on stream and all u wanted was him chatting it up a bit and engage socially so you could be proud of him. So sad ur expectations did not meet and now u are a sad little karen.

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02-20-2023 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
Slow Poker is the best poker vlogger out there. Hilarious and highly recommend.
Slow Poker has great humor, but only puts out for us once per month, and his nittiness makes me look like action at the tables. The one where he sings is fire though, especially when his wife is like "what are you wearing??"





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Originally Posted by NickMPK
What % of himself did Brad have in these games?
It kind of seems like maybe Brad's vlog got popular faster than his skill level has improved.

I like his vlog, but he never struck me as good enough to be playing at the highest stakes. His hand analysis always seems to be at a level slightly below that of Andrew Neeme, and I don't know of Neeme ever playing this high. I would have guessed that Owen was a winner in the Vegas 5/10 games, but would probably be an underdog against the regular 10/20 player pool.

I can understand his desire to play in these sort of games for the publicity, but the risk just seems so large, especially since YouTube views are never going to make 200k in a year for any poker vlogger. The one video I've seen of him playing 100/200 (several months ago), he came away a winner, but seemed to be playing scared money, which would probably make him a losing player even against less than top competition.

I think he could beat the lineup he was in if he didn't try to play fancy and run bluffs against guys with **** you money who don't care and will just call off with bottom pair or whatever. Just nit it up and take them to valuetown while being socially entertaining to keep them feeling happy while they drink more and more.

Also, Neeme was in the game with him on the first night for the 100/200 game and won north of 50K
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02-20-2023 , 02:48 PM
Surprised nobody mentioned that he was drinking.
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02-20-2023 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
YouTube views are never going to make 200k in a year for any poker vlogger.
Rampage made 183k from Youtube in 2021: https://youtu.be/y0FmTljsRS0?t=339 . Brad Owen got more views per video, but fewer videos I think. It is probable that multiple poker vloggers are currently earning > 200k/year from Youtube views.
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02-20-2023 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Loden Pants
Rampage made 183k from Youtube in 2021: https://youtu.be/y0FmTljsRS0?t=339 . Brad Owen got more views per video, but fewer videos I think. It is probable that multiple poker vloggers are currently earning > 200k/year from Youtube views.

Then you tack on merchandise, MUG appearance fees, WPT ambassador position, percentage ownership in The Lodge, etc. and I'm sure he's doing quite well for himself. But for sure not well enough to take the losses like he did very easy. He's not an Alex Keating who can see a million go poof and still feel empty inside about it.
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02-20-2023 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TampaKn1sh
Then you tack on merchandise, MUG appearance fees, WPT ambassador position, percentage ownership in The Lodge, etc. and I'm sure he's doing quite well for himself. But for sure not well enough to take the losses like he did very easy. He's not an Alex Keating who can see a million go poof and still feel empty inside about it.
hes also makes a shitton from affiliate signups on sites like pokerbros where he gets a % of his viewers rake in perpetuity. hes easily a millionaire, he lost two buyins in a high stakes game which will probably hurt him for a few weeks at most and then he will get over it, i dont know why this is a thread.
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02-20-2023 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Would've been a good comeback if it wasn't for him just beforehand saying how big of a loss he took compared to ever before and how it hurt
Exactly. This isn't hating but its a total contradiction.

He says Youtube doesn't pay as much as you think and the loss hurt yet now he is fronting trying to suggest he has a big bankroll?

There is zero chance he didn't overplay his bankroll unless he won the lottery recently.

He gets nervous when he wins or loses 5-10K at the Bellagio in bigger games than the 5-10

He needs to just admit he took a shot and move on. This twitter back and forth is not a good look.

This is poker, there is huge variance. You need to be correctly bankrolled for the stakes you play.

Especially as you step up in stakes where often you play against better players so your edge is smaller (and variance is often higher)

Its just amazing that a trained accountant doesn't understand he was gambling plain and simple.
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02-20-2023 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LimpDitka
From Brads twitter:

"Today I got smoked and I think I lost $150,000 or something. My biggest loss by 5x. YT doesnÂ’t pay as much as you might think. This one ****ing hurts. IÂ’ll be back tomorrow though."
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Originally Posted by Reggie Steer
The use of sympathy to influence followers is a standard cyber begging technique. Well played statement by Brad Owen. He'll recoup his losses quickly from his followers' sympathy.
yep, most of his followers who throw money at him are way, way poorer than he is, if they knew how much he actually makes they might be less likely to donate, so he has a vested interest in making it look like he is not nearly as wealthy as he actually is. its why all of the twitch streamers got pissed when their 7/8 figure incomes got leaked a while back, they are getting obscenely wealthy off of donations from people who make less than 1/10 of what they do.

i think he maybe lost 15% of his net worth which would obviously still be tough for anybody but i dont think hes hurting as much as he is claiming to be.

Last edited by Hellmuth was right; 02-20-2023 at 04:26 PM.
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02-20-2023 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
yep, most of his followers who throw money at him are way, way poorer than he is, if they knew how much he actually makes they might be less likely to donate, so he has a vested interest in making it look like he is not nearly as wealthy as he actually is. its why all of the twitch streamers got pissed when their 7/8 figure incomes got leaked a while back, they are getting obscenely wealthy off of donations from people who make less than 1/10 of what they do.

i think he maybe lost 15% of his net worth which would obviously still be tough for anybody but i dont think hes hurting as much as he is claiming to be.
Nobody thinks he’s destitute. People are free to spend their money however they please.
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02-20-2023 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
Nobody thinks he’s destitute. People are free to spend their money however they please.
nice strawman, of course people have the right to donate to him if thats how they want to spend their money, im simply stating that he has incentive to play the poor card in order to increase or maintain the $$ he gets from his followers, and that this millionaire losing $200k is probably not threadworthy considering there have been many, many bigger losses in livestreamed games just in 2023 alone.
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02-20-2023 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
He's a super good dude. Felt a bit sorry for him as he bemoaned the chat pros and other social media users giving him a hard time lately.

Mad respect to him for shooting his shot with such a big piece of himself. Would have been sick to see him win half a mill.
Curious; do you know him or do you see his public persona and believe it is real?
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02-20-2023 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
nice strawman, of course people have the right to donate to him if thats how they want to spend their money, im simply stating that he has incentive to play the poor card in order to increase or maintain the $$ he gets from his followers, and that this millionaire losing $200k is probably not threadworthy considering there have been many, many bigger losses in livestreamed games just in 2023 alone.
You mentioned him asking/getting donations and signing people up for a poker app.

Can you explain where people donate to him, or where he advertises app? As I've never seen this in any of his videos.
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02-20-2023 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
nice strawman, of course people have the right to donate to him if thats how they want to spend their money, im simply stating that he has incentive to play the poor card in order to increase or maintain the $$ he gets from his followers, and that this millionaire losing $200k is probably not threadworthy considering there have been many, many bigger losses in livestreamed games just in 2023 alone.
NiCe sTraWmaN….the whining of every pseudo intellectual who has taken a Philosophy 101 class. In this case, you used it wrong but I digress.

The amount lost isn’t the reason why the thread is “thread worthy” (I don’t know who made you thread police but congrats on the promotion, I guess). Clearly, the reason it’s “thread worthy”, as evidenced by the number of replies thus far, is because he is arguably the most popular and one of the most well-liked poker vloggers out there. People are interested in him and so when he takes a big hit, people will talk about it. You really don’t see that?
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02-20-2023 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Loden Pants
Rampage made 183k from Youtube in 2021: https://youtu.be/y0FmTljsRS0?t=339 . Brad Owen got more views per video, but fewer videos I think. It is probable that multiple poker vloggers are currently earning > 200k/year from Youtube views.
Huh, interesting. Rampage's revenue seems to be at least 5x the revenue per view that others report making. It appears he's being more specific and transparent than others, so I'm not sure what the inconsistently is here. (I had thought that most poker vloggers were making $1-2 per 1000 views, while Rampage seems to be reporting $7-10 per 1000.)
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