Take this for what it's worth, but at a private Vegas game last night with multiple tables the talk was ominous. Brad was killed. I tend to believe it. I'm as skeptical and rational as the next guy. But the flow of the conversations made me think it was greater than 75% it was true. I hope not.

bit of a vague post for such a claim. did they say who might've killed him or for what reason? and what makes you think this information is credible?

So many bad rumours going around. This is a big story at Nevada poker tables
and it passes from ear to ear until the facts and reality gets totally ****ed up with everyone having a theory.

It's probably going to take some time and some solid investigative work to get this thing figured out but the answers will come. I continue to pray for Brad, Brad's family, and his friends.

I don’t think it has anything to do with gambling debts, people in the poker world are generally quite understandable about debts and don’t tend to put pressure on others to the point of losing their head, unless he had contracted debts in other less kind sectors

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Nah, I haven't played in probably 5 years. The thing I've noticed about trying to be great at something is you have to be obsessive about it and find joy in the time commitment required to reach the highest levels. I had it for a while but not like I hear people like Kristen Bicknell describe how she loves the game and never gets tired of it no matter how much she plays and works on her game.

Whenever I tried to get that committed, I got burned out spending so much time on the computer, isolated & studying, it made me feel depressed and wasn't fun anymore. I enjoyed playing live tournaments but haven't done that since 2015. It feels like I'm so far behind I have no chance whereas back in the day I could do well simply because I'm super patient and tight and was aware enough of my image to steal a decent amount of pots. I'm sure I'd get trampled these days

Over 20 years, I'm up around $50,000 (cash and prizes and 13K of the 50k is the wsop package I won), so while I'm not a net loser, I wouldn't call it making money, certainly no where near what it would take to live off of but at least it proved to be a fun, profitable hobby for a while

You sound as skeptical and rational as the next guy. The flow of this post makes me think it's 75% true.

It's true. It was verified by Abe Frohman. He is the sausage king of Chicago.

If this is your line of thinking, I want to play poker with you.

They are staffed based on expected homicide rates. They don’t have a team of hundreds of homicide detectives standing idle waiting for a bunch of murders.

If this is true, then there is something that would trigger their involvement. I am sure they have a very active case load and they wouldn’t be using precious time and resources just to search for someone. Law enforcement doesn’t do it. We have thousands of ‘missing’ people in this country.

This is all based on a rumor on here so take that fwiw.

Ok. Where?

According to Las Vegas PD's web site, they won't search for a missing adult unless there is foul play involved or they are in danger of hurting themselves or others. They rightly point out that being missing is not a crime. I expect Reno would have similar policies.

If homicide is involved, it would mean there is some evidence that he was in danger. My guess would be that someone got into his texts or emails and saw some things that were convincing enough to law enforcement to start investigating.

it was likely just a white lie to keep the family at ease

Huh? How would his disappearance being investigated as a homicide put them at ease?

this made me smile a lot. it was on tv yesterday.

also shocked noone got the reference

Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

back on the topic of sharing bb stories, i'll spread an unconfirmed rumor of my own:

any chance he wouldve been playing 5/10 NL at commerce around 2010-2012? i didn't really know him then, but somebody very much fitting his description (i remember thinking he was from the midwest but canada would fit, same hair color/style) was just a fun guy to play with and drink some beers with. he sucked out on me in a fairly big pot and flipped me a black chip out of guilt I guess. i insisted he take it back but he basically wouldn't let me. it left me feeling more awkward than anything bc i didnt want charity (is there etiquette on how to handle a situation like this? guess maybe shouldve given it to dealer but they were the one who dealt me the suckout!) but my takeaway was also that he connected well with others and wanted them to have a good time.

anyway, reminded me of the car keys story and might be a reminder that debts don't always equal self-centered *******.

i hope he is found in good health.

Decent chance I think. I played quite a bit of 5/10 with him in 2012 at the Aria. He spent most of that summer playing 5/10 there. Fwiw he was very open to people telling them that he was broke and in debt.

Was a friendly and likeable guy.

Of course they don't. Most guys who end up in BB's situation do so due to a lack of self-control and poor decision making when under extreme pressure. It's pathological, spur of the moment stuff. They literally can't help getting sucked in and then they wake up at some point and realise they screwed up but it's too late.

Very few are calculated in their actions.


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Yeah ive heard rumours that i can't confirm that he owed heavily to some asian loan sharks that may be gang related. I cant confirm anything but just word of mouth. Seems odd that he said he was going camping.....he could of taken his own life knowing he had no options but obviously its all pure speculation.

How powerful are the asian loan sharks in Vegas nowadays?

I know they were big in the 90s but I dont know if they have the same power locally there today

Also asian is a broad term, are they chinese or japanese?

Chineses are easier to handle, japanese will cut your fingers

ie they are investigating it as a homicide but when interviewing friends and family they don't give that unnecessary emotional burden and just give a white lie and say "we're just allocating additional resources"

the last thing you want to do is tell someone's family that someone is dead and a week later he comes back from a camping trip

Meant from Vancouver

maybe im a cynic but I can't hold it in any longer

ill be the first to say the car keys story isn't one of "a nice guy" rather its cut from the same cloth with his poor decisions and impulsivity over the years which put him in major debt . you have to be a fool to give your car keys to someone you don't know just because they're at your poker table for a few days. and its not for "nothing" - obviously years later it's being talked about -- in fact its +EV for reputation, clout, and cool factor "oh im so rich I don't even care about my benz" while everyone sees him toss the keys

In the end Brad does seem to have a charming warm side in him and ill always remember his hand verse ivey when he premiered on HSP but on the same token that crazy play is quite revealing on how much of a gambler he was capable of being. He had it in him. /rant

Wow, I wish you could have held that in longer.

If someone owes you money you don't do something to them that ensures you have 0 chance to collect, that's how I see it at least.

you do it to serve as example to others

its a tradeoff, you lose the amount one owes but get back on the long run being on the top of the paying list of people in debt

usually when people go full broke ultimate they owe to multiple people, so you want to be the first one on the list if some payment is going to be made, if you are too kind your name drops to the bottom of the list

not an easy decision though