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10-04-2019 , 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
what was the reasoning given here?
I guess he thinks that since the majority of players on WPN are from the USA, then there would be some bots with a USA location. Of course this doesn't make a lick of sense.
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10-04-2019 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
what was the reasoning given here?
I think he might be alluding to the fact that if you play on WPN for long enough with certain stats, a screen with a captcha comes over the client and you have to solve it. I've had to do it in three sessions where I was winning playing with a higher VPIP. You find the traffic lights or stop signs and the screen goes away.


The thing this method discounts is that these days bot rings often have human operators working in conjunction with whatever software they're using. The human player does what the bot tells it to do and is able to solve the captcha and back to business. There is a Ukranian? guy on here who details working for one of these botrings here on 2+2.
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10-04-2019 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by HandOfGod666
I guess he thinks that since the majority of players on WPN are from the USA, then there would be some bots with a USA location. Of course this doesn't make a lick of sense.
Nowadays in MTTs on WPN, there are often more foreign accounts than accounts from the USA.
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10-04-2019 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hAmThEkIlLeR
I think he might be alluding to the fact that if you play on WPN for long enough with certain stats, a screen with a captcha comes over the client and you have to solve it. I've had to do it in three sessions where I was winning playing with a higher VPIP. You find the traffic lights or stop signs and the screen goes away.


The thing this method discounts is that these days bot rings often have human operators working in conjunction with whatever software they're using. The human player does what the bot tells it to do and is able to solve the captcha and back to business. There is a Ukranian? guy on here who details working for one of these botrings here on 2+2.
And Assist-Software that will tell you what to do.
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10-06-2019 , 01:46 PM
It’s very telling that 100 sn’s get posted and no one shows up to defend a single one of them. I don’t rmbr anyone ever defending any of the accounts OP accused in the WPN thread either.
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10-06-2019 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by The Apex
It’s very telling that 100 sn’s get posted and no one shows up to defend a single one of them. I don’t rmbr anyone ever defending any of the accounts OP accused in the WPN thread either.
A couple were defended, as I recall, but not more.

PS- apparently, ACR not having a good day today.
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10-08-2019 , 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
Why are you posting this stuff in WPN threads? You been doing it here and there and it adds nothing to the discussion.
ummm...I checked out on this stuff wowzer and I can't offer any other adjective then absolute fools who still play and support this site are 100% the problemat this point and not WPN!!!! Serious WPN gonna WPN fo life playas so anyone who still plays there is IMO more so of a problem for online poker keeping these profit sucking scum bags alive for so long for dog terds compared to your time

I am soooooo glad I broke out of the routine of this BS site I have seen unreal prosperity since leaving...I have had career earnings, unlimited happiness, renewed passions and fantastic relationships blossom

I suggest anyone sitting there stressed about WPN to pull the plugs cut the life support and go flourish...use the terrible adventure at WPN to thrive in other areas I am telling ya peeps WPN hell will keep you held back in life..its a scam!!!!

so yea it adds everything to this discussion the person you quoted and all this BS of screen names and blah blah blah WPN blah blah blah adds nothing IMO...and that year of WPN before ya know it will be a decade

they are cheats many of us have been screaming it for years and yes myself included were apart of the problem by contributing to the nonsense zero sum scam they have in place

these threads are no longer productive to the poker community or your own mental well beings...leaving WPN and finally letting the crooks fold and lose a pot would actually be best for the community and would contribute far more then another bot thread ever would

but hey I only watched this all go down from well the start...oh doyles room..oh black friday..oh quad jacks..oh lock poker..oh people finally came to WPN..and when they did Phil was waiting to take it all...oh how we all were played because we missed the glory days and WPN was our last hope of it

Don't wait for glory days go out and make everyday a gloryday
We are poker players we make moves we don't need these losers to grind it out..go out into the world you will be happy you did

7.000056789012 cents refunds lololol
and ya peeps stillplaying an honest LOL
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10-08-2019 , 05:27 PM
The amount of Russian accounts now playing plo/8 is concerning.
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10-08-2019 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by HandOfGod666
I guess he thinks that since the majority of players on WPN are from the USA, then there would be some bots with a USA location. Of course this doesn't make a lick of sense.
I think bot operators would try some measures for covering their tracks like a VPN.. really shows how out of touch he is
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10-09-2019 , 02:26 AM
1. i started playing plo on here a few months ago. new bot accounts are popping up every day. what i realized is that the bots would obviously all play me at the beginning, but now a lot of them are sitting out vs me. i guess now that they have enough data on me they can see that my style isnt profitable vs their bot or some redic **** like that.

2. something very shady happened to me there other day. had a bunch of cash tables going, sat out of all of them and when i went to the cashier, there was 1500 dollars missing. emailed support, and they asked me the table name that i was missing funds from, which i obv didnt know as i had 10 tables up and it coulda been any of them. issue was never resolved, they just sent me a bunch of emails that made no sense and then stopped replying... the way the cashier loads is extremely slow. im almost sure that not all money being played with at cash tables is returned to the cashier once play is completed.

3. i played a lot of the 40$ jackpot sngs one week and according to the "sit and crush" rankings i was owed 100$, which i was never paid. emailed support, no dice.

4. cashed all my money off this joke of a site in btc, (supposed to take 24 hours, but took over 3 days) urge all regs to do the same.
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10-09-2019 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by carterswidler
1. i started playing plo on here a few months ago. new bot accounts are popping up every day. what i realized is that the bots would obviously all play me at the beginning, but now a lot of them are sitting out vs me. i guess now that they have enough data on me they can see that my style isnt profitable vs their bot or some redic **** like that.

2. something very shady happened to me there other day. had a bunch of cash tables going, sat out of all of them and when i went to the cashier, there was 1500 dollars missing. emailed support, and they asked me the table name that i was missing funds from, which i obv didnt know as i had 10 tables up and it coulda been any of them. issue was never resolved, they just sent me a bunch of emails that made no sense and then stopped replying... the way the cashier loads is extremely slow. im almost sure that not all money being played with at cash tables is returned to the cashier once play is completed.

3. i played a lot of the 40$ jackpot sngs one week and according to the "sit and crush" rankings i was owed 100$, which i was never paid. emailed support, no dice.

4. cashed all my money off this joke of a site in btc, (supposed to take 24 hours, but took over 3 days) urge all regs to do the same.
The cashier has been a nightmare for 6+ months. You'd think at the very least they would be able to get that working properly months later

NOPE
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10-09-2019 , 12:51 PM
I keep getting rake back in my account even though I haven't played a real money hand since before May 20th.

Its only pennies here and there, but I find it amusing. Gonna build a roll via the Office Space method.
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10-09-2019 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Snipers35
I keep getting rake back in my account even though I haven't played a real money hand since before May 20th.

Its only pennies here and there, but I find it amusing. Gonna build a roll via the Office Space method.
LOL, let us know know you are ready for 100nl blitz.
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10-09-2019 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by HandOfGod666
There is a huge bot infestation at NLHE cash as well and numerous threads detailing their stats.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...e-bot-1727995/

The same bots are still around although the names may be different now, the stats are still the same.

The PLO cash bots have played as high as 15/30 in the past and regularly are playing in 5/10 presently.

The main reason I created this thread is that WPN has not only allowed bots to play 2-4 per 6max table, they are now committing outright fraud with their rakeback programs. This cannot go on any longer. There are no public figures in the community talking about this on social media, the only public faces that talk about WPN are all sponsored players that act like WPN is the greatest poker site in the history of the universe.

Where do the people investigating this get access to these hands/stats?
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10-09-2019 , 02:37 PM
I'm in a $55 tourny and every player at my table is either from Russia or Eastern euro. Not saying they are bots and card sharing, but damn where are all the US players? wt*
Not saying its rigged, but I a;ready got dealt KK three times in this tourny and every time there was an ace on the flop and the Big Blind had a rag ace. lol

edit: not putting another dime on this site.

Last edited by Javoc; 10-09-2019 at 02:51 PM.
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10-09-2019 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Javoc
Not saying its rigged, but I a;ready got dealt KK three times in this tourny and every time there was an ace on the flop and the Big Blind had a rag ace. lol
Translation: "I'm not saying it's rigged, but I'm saying it's rigged."
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10-09-2019 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Javoc
As I have said before, get your money off while you can.
Meanwhile, the same day.

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Originally Posted by Javoc
I'm in a $55 tourny and every player at my table is either from Russia or Eastern euro. Not saying they are bots and card sharing, but damn where are all the US players? wt*
Not saying its rigged, but I a;ready got dealt KK three times in this tourny and every time there was an ace on the flop and the Big Blind had a rag ace. lol

edit: not putting another dime on this site.
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10-09-2019 , 06:31 PM
I cashed out today and already feeling better. Going back to Global for now until they get their act together.
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10-09-2019 , 08:15 PM
Feel no sympathy for people who understand what's going on, complain about it everywhere, and continue to play. You ARE the problem.
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10-09-2019 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
Feel no sympathy for people who understand what's going on, complain about it everywhere, and continue to play. You ARE the problem.
I get it. ACR is the only site that offers what they want. HUDs, mass multi tabling, rakeback, and high stakes games. They could make significantly more money grinding ACR than any other site if ACR got their **** together.
I don’t see a problem in them trying to fix the games. I agree it doesn’t look good and I’m doubtful that ACR will do what’s right, but if they still have hope and think it’s worth their time to make threads like this why does it bother you so much? You don’t have to read them.
Plus I would rather have the ACR regs stay on ACR instead of moving to the sites I play on.
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10-10-2019 , 07:33 AM
shocker, shitty poker players make shitty decisions
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10-10-2019 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
Meanwhile, the same day.

got my money off but had tickets to play with
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10-11-2019 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
Great article. I saw it was being shared on reddit which is good now that Postle news is basically all that anyone cares about. Not saying that Postle isn't a dirty thief, but the scale of fraud that WPN is carrying out dwarfs the paltry sum he stole.
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10-11-2019 , 04:38 AM
I think more than 30% are bots. A lot of weird stuff happening to me also.

1. Various time, I go all in vs bots in mtts and when I lost, the hand will not show up in the HH.

2.Two player from Israel all in preflop for 100bb each, deep in an MTT.

3. Same two players registered on the 25 jackpots, then they go all in with each other to play HU vs 3rd player 2-1.

4.Still waiting for refunds from sunday!!

5.Have a list of about 10 suspicious bots from PLO that are not on the list.

6.Rakeback shortage.

Trying to keep playing but it is just too much��
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