I could be wrong tho, but i dont think so. These 4 guys got 29/22/9% 3bet/>=50W$WSF, only Rayman58 got a little different W$WSF and W$SD because he ran extremely bad lately. They are just react differently in 3b pot. Rayman58 and IAMGROOT not give up 3b pot easily, they are gonna keep the bluff to the river. Sleindermein + StackHouse51 just give up after fire flop and got nothing.

But put the stats on the side. The thing is they never sit in on the same table. Its just never happen. These 4 guys played over a year and choose exactly table, time and not sit in, avoiding each other, no matter how good the table is. And they never sit out when they are playing, even table alr broken, only losing/recreational reg were keep playing, they still going HU till they quit.

Hey it is cool this topic is live again.
Saberwulf03 is a bot too. Same story never at the same tables...

There are more bots on normal ipoker tables too and other bots on NL200 premium tables too. We tried everything in the past, reported lot of times to ipoker/bet365, they have done nothing. I wont be surprised if there is some "inside job" too. I don't say the room, I say maybe a few employees.

So what is the plan?

Since i saw this thread, im actually watching more carefully to these suspicious player. Now im pretty much sure who got the stats 29/22/9%, W$WSF >=50% literally never play on the same table from NL20 to NL100. The list: Rayman58, IAMGOOT7, notoriety6, Sleindermein, StackHouse51, Saberwulf03 and could be more. These guys started to play at bet365 at almost the same time: around 6/2017. This is so obvious.

I just checked the tables, and most of the bots I reported have not been banned. They are still playing.
Plenty of bet365 bots and also bots I reported from iPoker network.

We could write a group complaint to the Malta Gambling Commission if anyone is interested?
I filed a complaint about Bet365 to Gibraltar Gambling Commission. Recently they changed their license to Maltese one.

I haven't played at iPoker for like 8 months though. I play on Pokerstars and I'm doing well.

Here's what Stars does:

https://pastebin.com/R4kP87nZ

i used to get tons of mtt bot banned but now wit hthe change to sharkscope not allowing to see games played vs a player with blocked stats and ipoker changing the sw to not reveal location its gotten very hard to get them. i can think of 5 bots right now in the mtt's who never take a day off and play all day long its quite absurd. they have same basic pre flop stats too and im sure if we could see location they would all be same country either russia or czech republic

Unfortunately, they will.......because there will always be gamblers, and those who think that the sites are not rigged.........I don't play online anymore...live only.........

those who would tell you otherwise are either in denial or work for these sites. mis-information can sway alot, especially the newer generation who don't believe something like this would happen; ("Why would the sites do this? They make a ton on rake") He is why......listen closely.............GREED!!!!!

Don't worry the bots are fish

Do not play online poker because it is rigged in the sense that the software owners look the other way when they see a bot at their site because they produce a lot of rake, and give the impression of ''good'' traffic?

OR keep wondering: Why am i such a fish? Could it be that there are some russian bots chipping on my winrate? Is online poker dead? Why the sites do nothing when i report bots?

so many questions....

OR tell yourself: -''Human or not i am gonna crush this poker thing''
you go get them tiger

Anybody else got a refund recently? I play 20nl-100nl premium tables

iPoker used to be part of my daily MTT grind but I haven't played for a couple years there because the games became unbeatable for me.

game collision?

i hope to guy wasn't injured too seriously

was it a hit and run?

The technology is definitely out there, but there's no real way of knowing whether or not you're playing against a bot if the software is configured correctly. If you're smart enough to program a bot which makes you money by playing poker online, you're probably smart enough to know how someone would catch you.

celeryman is the one with KJo here vs a rec. Not sure if they're a bot but this is obv quite horrendous, the XR and then the hero blocking QJ/J9 and losing to all the rec's AXcc bluffs.


FWIW they timed out on a table not long after this and then were active in the chat. Potentially some sort of malfunction although of all the bots, if celeryman is one it's the worst programmed. I actually think it's just a garbage reg. They make a lot of heros like this in spots where they incorrectly believe opponent is over polarised. I have them running at something like 28/19 with <50 WWSF. All the other "bots" tend to be >50 WWSF.

Bot or not, I would be super curious to see their graph. Would be surprised if they were winning pre-rb. Would get butchered at 10nl zoom for sure.

I don't think there are any bots right now at least at 50NL. I've been playing till May and they all make stupid mistakes like all human players do.
Celeryman changed his game for some reason. Earlier he'd 3bet a lot from BTN & CO like 9%-11% but now he only 3bets 3%-5%.
But I don't think he's a bot. Neither is Slendermein or Rayman.
But the games are becoming way too reggy now & no 100NL games running constantly. Everyone at 50NL is also sitting out trying to bumhunt

Whether the players you mentioned are bots or not might be debatable, but I'd bet my net worth that there are numerous bots at the limits.

Bet365 did release a new update, IPokerTools got broken for example.
Every suspected Bot Account hasnt been online tonight. Never saw that low amount of Regs, this is what Poker could be without Bots?

Interesting. Saw numbers in a few daytime MTTs dip noticably, but mostly removed ipoker already due to bot concerns. They don't appeciate that there are players ready to jump in action if they cleaned house.

but maybe they did.

i like b365, hope they keep things cleaner. its a good smaller site for mid stakes bros.

any updates here? has ipoker started banning bots? also could some of you who play CG NL20+ PM me please!?

Bots who play all day and night would be easy to beat . How can a computer not have a weakness?

surely anyone who was decent with tracking software could easily find a weakness and just keep beating said bot till the owner shuts it down

I think it is more likely some group of players from poor part of the world like the hood in usa or poor parts of russian and they just grind the sites to get money for there guns, drugs and beers in paper bags . oh and the russian players only need to earn a bottle of vodka a day then it is worth it for them. so stop moaning about bots and understand it is the poor places that have low wages like the bronx and the hood that make poker look like bot players. ice t and 50 cent are part of the problem for making poor people in the hood and ghetto think it is cool to have a wtsd of 5% and fold to cbet 50% cool.

^ probably not as funny as it sounded in your head

Wakeemup He is a bot for sure.

I realized bots were a problem when many years ago stars almost banned one of my accounts for being a bot even though I was just winning.

Hello

Ive been grinding a lot of Bet365 lately and the potential botting/colluding/Real time assistance/Stable situuation is gettting kinda unbearable.

If anyone is interested in pooling resources together to combat this situation please pm me or post in this thread.

Im already trying to establish contact with OP.

gg gl all