What happened to fishtanks, no updates for ages? Mcbusto from the bots?

Yes very strange indeed. I've bumped his PGC thread, I'd like to know what happened to him.

Yeah, I had wondered if it was that one (remembered it but couldn't find it - thanks!). If so, the poster obviously didn't read the whole thread.

That's what I thought.

"Originally Posted by indianaV8
So cliff notes - WH did this ToS to deploy bots on the GameAccount network (Backgammon, gin rummy, dominoes and blackjack) and "in order to assist the liquidity or the number of players gaming", but they can't do it for the Poker games because their provider (iPoker) ToS disallows that."

Bump.

These guys would have cleaned me out without this thread, so thank you.

With the low traffic you obviously see the same faces at the same tables from time to time, and that's normal. Hey I even made some new friends this way.

But with iPoker it's the soft play and clairvoyance some of these guys seem to have, plus the fact they always seem to play together, that makes me feel uncomfortable playing there.

I don't have the bankroll to collect enough evidence, but when a table is folding around to the BB when you don't play for over 100 hands, but then the minute you decide to play AQ or AK or some other premium and then the entire table is call/raising you the moment you decide to play it kind of gets suspicious. Stuff like 4c pots being checked down to the river, no bets nothing, unless off course I'm in the pot, then it's overbet shove river 3bet me 4bet me etc. I switch off, folding even AKs pre and it's back to check check 4c pots again. Like I'm being fleeced by a team of 5 players who refuse to play each other but can't wait to raise me out of a pot or suck out on me by the river.

Thankfully I started colour coding them so I had a nice visual alert (red teams blue teams green teams etc.) whenever they showed up.... and then shortly after I decided it was time to quit. You can't beat a rigged system playing straight.

I came to play 2NL & 4NL and learn and hopefully move up, not to be fleeced by gangs of degenerates sharing hole cards and using bots?!?

I hope these people die in some gang related violence of their own making I really do!

POLTERGEIST BOTS IT WAS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME!!!

Some might have missed this, but there's a thread in MTT Community about these bots. Details on how these bots play and some other info with screennames.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/6...29/index2.html

I've reported ~20 suspected bots to ipoker and more than half of them have disappeared pretty much right after.

LOL i-poker

If you can't spot the robot at i-poker you are the robot
No one plays at i-poker unless you wanna get colluded real hard
eff i-poker man!

OP was playing there for months, possibly years.

Me too that's why i suggest to anyone who's got $ there to withdraw and never look back.

Their software sucks anyway.

C'mon guys, i am still fighting with them.

For 6 months have some really good reads, but let's just try to divide them at the tables.

Btw i was like 7bb/100 for like lifetime before bots have appeared and rake went up to 4euro cap.

I also have found that they are playing really random by days.
Like there is a party of 4 of them for 2 days, then they are gone for the next 2 days, so the others can play (and u never get sample of them(hud filter set for 2 months) and they are changing their strategies monthly)

If you're not being cheated online, then you're not doing it right

lolz at 'fighting bots'

I have an account at titan poker a while back. I stopped playing there because the software was so bad and laggy. But when you say bots on ipoker and bet365, do you mean the whole ipoker network together? Because betfair and titan and bet365 are all ipoker. But don't all ipoker players regardness of network play on the same network or certain skins restrict themselves to certain skins only? If so, what format or all?


Are there lot of bots at tournaments and sngs though?

Confirmed bots on nl50/nl100 bet365 tables, a few of them malfunctioned the other day and started playing same crazy any two cards strategy for a bit. One I personally played against in this state was celeryman47 (who is in OP original post) and was told he wasn't the only one that bugged.

Search box confessions of a botter.

There's a bot for every format at every site

OP what other sites do you play on that you think have a lot of bot.

2 questions

do the bots play at the fast fold tables too?

Also could someone specify what stat anomalies they find in the bots?

Are the bots the same stat profiles, or different?

Here at chico you can tell theya re bots because their aggression frequencies are somehting like

52/48/22 or
48/46/18

Also they cbet MORE often the higher # of players are in the hand, which is the xact opposite of real human players.

Can they play fast tables? Hyper turbo tables?

The poster who said in the uk you could get in trouble for running at bot?

I can just imagine telling the police that there is bots playing poker , they would just look at you with a wtf are you on about look.

Betting sites can do what they want and some paid of regulators in some tax free haven are going do shi t to help. Heck you be lucky for them to return your e.mail or call.

How could running a boy be seen as money laundering? I had will power to run a bit , I would register in my own name and address and only thing that would happen if caught would be account closed and maybe the site would take my money as why not they can do what they want it even says that when you read there tos

Only thing stops sites robbing players blind is word of mouth as they know that players won’t play if they hear about slow payouts.

They ban players let them sign back up and gamble for two days before they say you can’t play because you are banned. They would not pay you if you win and will not refund you as they say in there tos they can simply they have 100% power and players has only the goodwill of the site.

Not all sites are shady there is some that are trustworthy and run right. I will only bet on one site who are the best book for the whole of the universe I think they take bets from aliens and every alien has a account with them that is how good they are...

Hey guys. I took a long break from poker and only thing new in this case was this Email that I got 1½ months ago.
I complained to the Gibraltar Gambling Authority. It took them time but finally this reply came:

Usually they don't talk about the results of their investigation, but there it says clearly:
"some were frozen for prohibited software use"
I also think I did a very good job bringing forth awareness to bet365 about bots in general.
Otherwise I haven't been following the scene or monitor the bot situation.

Bump on this.
I'm not sure whether all on the list are bots.
But all I've faced on the list are decent/solid players.

That "Rayman58" guy is pretty tough to play against. I couldn't find any flaws/tells so far as well. And he has a really good winrate. Probably the best out of the list I've faced.

what about huhypers and spins ?

Rayman58 and IAMGROOT7 got similar playing style. And ive never see these 2 guys used time more than 3 seconds. They seem to make up their mind pretty fast no matter who they are playing against, how toughed pot they were in. If they are not bots ill suprise they are still staying at NL50/100. They have good winrate, got skill, and NL200 almost got the same pool as 50/100 but they never been up there.

PS: After checked my HEM and played a session at bet365 today, i think Rayman58 + IAMGROOT7 is a bot using same strategy. After that we got another couple bots is Sleindermein + StackHouse51. They never play against each other, 4 guys play at bet365 for over a year and never play against each other (hahaha) . Rayman58 + IAMGROOT take the morning session from around 5AM to 2PM then Sleindermein + StackHouse51 take the rest. The Rayman58 + IAMGROOT7 is tougher to play against more than Sleindermein + StackHouse51 for some reason, even tho they got almost exactly same stats, W$WF >= 50.

This is over exaggeration imo.
rayman & groot have two different playstyles. their open sizes are different. How they react to 3bets are different. & so on.
Also I've chatted with slendermein a while back on table chat as well. So at least a human is behind. he has changed his style a bit now. I don't think he's a bot. Also stackhouse & slendermein have different styles as well. I've played with them a lot at 20NL. Stackhouse might be a bot but imo slendermein isn't.