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Originally Posted by KptBomba
It begs the question what you define as having house bots. When the network willingly support bot creators and let them play and also don't ban them despite very strong evidence did they already crossed the line or not yet?
Because for me they already did. There is a difference between stupidity and ignorance and the case here where it seems more and more likely they are fully aware they support bot operations .
No, it's not the same, nor is it really all that close.
If a bot is winning, and presumably any that continue playing are, it's a pretty huge difference whether those winnings are going to some cheater running bots, or the site itself.
If a site is putting absolutely no effort into catching bots, or a woefully inadequate one, then I can see how that crosses a line for many people. But it's not the same line as running the bots themselves. Not even close.
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Yes there are bots everywhere, but once you're reasonably sure you're actually playing against one, it's pretty stupid to keep playing in that particular game, don't you think?
No, not always. If you're profiting from the game, that actually seems pretty foolish. And of course I mean profiting in the sense that you feel you're +EV at the game, not just that you're on a heater.
And please don't get me wrong - this isn't one of those ridiculous "Who cares about the bots as long as you can beat them" posts. I always argue against those assertions. Yes, you should report the bots. And I can absolutely understand people refusing to play on a site they believe is riddled with bots, and letting them know that's why you're doing so. But if you've decided you're OK with playing on a given site, and are at a table that is profitable, are you really going to get up from such a table when you think you're playing against a bot? It's bad enough that the bots exist in the first place, but when you allow them to force you into -EV moves like leaving profitable tables, then the bots have really won.