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01-04-2024 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by limon
honest question: why would anyone care at this point?
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Originally Posted by limon
no. not at all. i honestly can't think of one reason for caring if people on gray market sites are playing against bots. i can't even think of a reason to care if they are being actively cheated. If I go play in a gray market live game hosted by a guy who operates in jurisdictions legally and illegally why on earth would anyone care if i played against a robot or was cheated? the ethics of the game host are obviously "fluid", i should know this going in.
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Originally Posted by limon
Attention kind and learned mods, please take note that my good faith and informative post has been besieged by unwarranted ad-hominem attacks from this forums assorted broke lowlifes, this is normally the part where i smash these plebs into a billion little pieces. but as discussed with the owners of this site i will refrain and let you do your work preserving my discussion points while eliminating this noise. thank you for all that you do good sirs!
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Originally Posted by limon
where is the regulation? the gray market sites are still getting traffic and ignoring your pleas. everyone who plays there is getting skimmed by bots, rta and super users and the sites will do minimum to nothing to help you. they will pretend and you will accept it. in fact the gray market sites are probably rooting for winning players who are parasites on thier system to FAIL. They aren't mad at the cheats they are mad that they are so sloppy. In the end they will shut down and steal your money as has happened countless times and you will have no recourse. you will come here crying and i will ask again, who cares? I am giving advice to a young poker player, dont go down this path. I have played in super soft safe games and cashed out millions of dollars in casinos around the world. never even a HINT of impropriety (since the poker boom), its a much better way. People are discussing how to not get cheated, i am giving the answer.

and i reiterate:
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Im missing the destruction personally. Ya it did suck when party shut down, i was printing money, oh well. ya it did suck when stars and tilt held my funds and i sold all my tilt balance at 80c on the dollar, oh well. this was the world i chose to operate in. democratic countries have laws, those laws are by and for the people. theres no such thing as a random rogue "regulator". these regulators represent the people and regulations can be changed, they change every day. if i choose to operate outside the laws of the country i live in or do business with someone who operates outside the laws of countries they are in I take my chances. im not sure why anyone would care. If you told me you were lobbying your democratically elected representatives for change or running for office with a platform of that change i would care about that.
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tilt and lock were good until they were bad. this is the way it always goes. who is still surprised by this???
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The law is accepted by the people’s representatives and if they defy their constituents they are voted out. It happens every Election Day. It seems the people were fine with the uiega which I disagree with but I’m not naive or childish enough to say things should go my way or they are rigged. I made 7 figs at party. I wish it continued but there is a counter argument as to what good I was doing for my fellow Americans crushing people on an offshore gambling site. In the end it’s pretty obvious my side of the argument is winning out but it doesn’t happen instantly and I don’t sit and cry about it. I move forward.
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Governments don’t shut down industries. The people do. The people are the government. You may not agree with the majority of the people or their elected representatives and you can work for change but to blame your problems in a nefarious shadowy “government” not connected to your fellow countrymen shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how the system works.
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I suggest a civics class. Nothing you said was remotely true or backed up by any facts. I think you would find a civics class interesting and would find new appreciation for a government by and for the people which has created the greatest accomplishments and living standards the human race has ever seen.

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01-04-2024 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CorrectSide
LMAO, nice troll up to this point you make it believable.
The statement is 100% correct and it’s not close.
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01-04-2024 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by limon
The statement is 100% correct and it’s not close.
Aren’t there moderators around who can prevent people like this from ruining threads?
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01-04-2024 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SyztmzStable
Aren’t there moderators around who can prevent people like this from ruining threads?
Having civil discussions with people who direct comments towards me is actually what a thread on a forum is for. Take a moment to reflect on this fact.
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01-04-2024 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by limon
where is the regulation? the gray market sites are still getting traffic and ignoring your pleas. everyone who plays there is getting skimmed by bots, rta and super users and the sites will do minimum to nothing to help you. they will pretend and you will accept it. in fact the gray market sites are probably rooting for winning players who are parasites on thier system to FAIL. They aren't mad at the cheats they are mad that they are so sloppy. In the end they will shut down and steal your money as has happened countless times and you will have no recourse. you will come here crying and i will ask again, who cares? I am giving advice to a young poker player, dont go down this path. I have played in super soft safe games and cashed out millions of dollars in casinos around the world. never even a HINT of impropriety (since the poker boom), its a much better way. People are discussing how to not get cheated, i am giving the answer.

and i reiterate:

Hey mods this ugly mid-50s drunk is STILL trying to convince people that he is rich or smart or something in threads that people are reading. His mental health crisis has gone on long enough. Can you delete this post, all of his, and just ban him?





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01-04-2024 , 07:13 PM
Thanks for all your work on this Tyler. It's appreciated, ignore the nonsense derailing the thread.
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01-04-2024 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by darchas
Thanks for all your work on this Tyler. It's appreciated, ignore the nonsense derailing the thread.
yes, thank you tyler and i too ask you to ignore the others derailing this thread.
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01-04-2024 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TylerRM
List of Cash NL400+ Nicknames:
I put the cash database in PT4 and from what I can see of these you can split them into a few groups based on their profiles. Pretty much every bot has been highlighted above apart from swompingv1ce, which I think is a bot as well. I don't know how many of these are still active, I saw an ACR rep say they have been investigated and action already taken but the below are all bots, the first 2 groups are blatant.

If any of these are still playing they shouldn't be. I'd like to know what level of evidence ACR actually need in order to get these accounts removed, some of these have been playing for months.

thestylebender
Whippersnaper
selfassurance
L0m0n0s0ff
Oxxximiro
HandAxe
NoNeedToKnowMe
ProtocolFantom
hatchling
Kathrizar
icynugget
sciapodous
NightF0xx
AntiBiotic31
CkaNNonBaLL
RedFisherr

swompingv1ce (Not on list)
Triburk
Tantruum

kitfree
Anathema80
Prizrak96
Vv00DpeKer
BrummDr92

sluggishness
MeXaHuK84
Tierolis
Masterofgamble
TrollWarLord
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01-04-2024 , 08:11 PM
Any names of PLO bots/colluders?
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01-04-2024 , 08:13 PM
Same goes on plo100-600. Somehow these accounts avoid the reshuffle tablesÂ…pretty sure of collusion.
A bunch of these accounts have exact afq on all streets. 38/47/35 ( flop/turn/river)

Last year, I wrote to Carl Brincat @Linkedin. He is the CEO of the Malta Gaming Authority. I wrote about Ipoker regarding the bots issue, as I'm almost certain they are the same ones, with exactly the same stats, high win rates, and EV above. He responded and promised to look into it, but nothing happened. However, now if more people write to him about similar topics or something like the moneytaker69 issue there might be some progress. I believe that if a serious investigation could be initiated at even just one of the rooms due to these security shortcomings, possibly involving license revocation, it could significantly change the security approach of the roomsÂ…:

Thanks Tyler to come up with this!
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01-04-2024 , 08:26 PM
Thanks to TylerRM for sharing this info and the work u put into doing so.

I play MTTs professionally on ACR in the 33-630$ range, so I recognized many of the names listed here, some I have marked as regs some as fish.
I use PT4 so I probably have a decent amount of hands on some of them.

A couple of questions:

1. Are these accusations based on ingame stats, the way they play certain spots or both?
2. With how many other players have you worked to put together this list?
3. I would like to help out investigating these bots, but I have no idea where to start. Could
you provide some more insight into your work (whether in a post or privately).
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01-04-2024 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by limon
Attention kind and learned mods, please take note that my good faith and informative post has been besieged by unwarranted ad-hominem attacks from this forums assorted broke lowlifes, this is normally the part where i smash these plebs into a billion little pieces. but as discussed with the owners of this site i will refrain and let you do your work preserving my discussion points while eliminating this noise. thank you for all that you do good sirs!
Limon you are such a hypocrite. You hurled ad-hominem attacks at me then blocked me for no reason on Twitters when I was having a good faith discussion with you. You really are a fragile man.

And I find it highly ironic you call others broke like myself when I was one of the biggest winners at 20/40 PLO and 50/100 NL for years while your old ass was a meh 5/10 reg. I would come say hello at your peasant table in the peasant section of Commerce and you were always kind enough IRL, but you are a real weasel online. Not once did you ever come to the big boy room even when the games were incredible so you are either
1) poor
2) biggest bankroll nit in history
3) suck at poker (most likely)

For most of us poker is a stepping stone. If you want to sit there drunk breaking even in the game and just collecting rake then that's your right. Just don't be such a twat online please. Thank you.
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01-04-2024 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianCox
Limon you are such a hypocrite. You hurled ad-hominem attacks at me then blocked me for no reason on Twitters when I was having a good faith discussion with you. You really are a fragile man.

And I find it highly ironic you call others broke like myself when I was one of the biggest winners at 20/40 PLO and 50/100 NL for years while your old ass was a meh 5/10 reg. I would come say hello at your peasant table in the peasant section of Commerce and you were always kind enough IRL, but you are a real weasel online. Not once did you ever come to the big boy room even when the games were incredible so you are either
1) poor
2) biggest bankroll nit in history
3) suck at poker (most likely)

For most of us poker is a stepping stone. If you want to sit there drunk breaking even in the game and just collecting rake then that's your right. Just don't be such a twat online please. Thank you.
Sir this a Wendy’s drive through…
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01-04-2024 , 10:24 PM
01-04-2024 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MyrnaFTW
Actual popcorn.

People who use twitter- spread this to the non poker players programmers. It doesn't have to be a good or winning bot.

Only way I can think this makes sense for them to offer is if the so called bots on ACR are humans utilizing software on a separate computer that gives them a play, and then humans copy the output.

Or - hard to go undetected as a bot, easy to exist as a cheat.
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01-04-2024 , 10:36 PM


ACR offering 100k reward for proof of a bot running for 5k+ hands / offering a job to the person

lmfao this showing they seem to flat out deny that all of these accounts are clearly suspicious - so they haven't been banned due to incompetency instead of being complicit?



Solveforwhy podcast covering the bots tommorow
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01-04-2024 , 10:41 PM
ACR already deleted the tweet
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01-04-2024 , 10:43 PM
lmfao they deleted the video/tweet







Was there already a winner?
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01-04-2024 , 10:57 PM



New video with Ebony added + 2 extra mins of PR lol
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01-04-2024 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianCox
Limon you are such a hypocrite. You hurled ad-hominem attacks at me then blocked me for no reason on Twitters when I was having a good faith discussion with you. You really are a fragile man.

And I find it highly ironic you call others broke like myself when I was one of the biggest winners at 20/40 PLO and 50/100 NL for years while your old ass was a meh 5/10 reg. I would come say hello at your peasant table in the peasant section of Commerce and you were always kind enough IRL, but you are a real weasel online. Not once did you ever come to the big boy room even when the games were incredible so you are either
1) poor
2) biggest bankroll nit in history
3) suck at poker (most likely)

For most of us poker is a stepping stone. If you want to sit there drunk breaking even in the game and just collecting rake then that's your right. Just don't be such a twat online please. Thank you.
ATTENTION kind and learned mods, Attached you will see the ramblings of a deranged stalker who has followed me from another platform to shyt himself in front of me in an attempt to get my attention. I know this must be jarring to you, but for me, a multi millionaire literal legend of poker, it is just another day at the top of the mountain. As i discussed with the owners of the site i will not respond in kind to this filth any longer, i will instead leave it to you, selfless volunteer arbiters of justice, to take out this trash and clean up this thread that has been sullied by the psychopaths that follow celebrities like myself around in this crazy modern world.
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01-04-2024 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TreadLightly



New video with Ebony added + 2 extra mins of PR lol
I feel like this is a message someone like Nagy should be sending out and not a disheveled Chris Money maker who has nothing to do with operations
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01-04-2024 , 11:16 PM
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01-04-2024 , 11:19 PM
Concerned citizens: "Those guys are robbing us for years"
Authorities: Do nothing to robbers, annonce 100k reward to the first person, who robs 5 people

People who have those kind of bots earn way more than 100k
People who've been robbed, have no idea how to make a bot
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01-04-2024 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fduzsh
Concerned citizens: "Those guys are robbing us for years"
Authorities: Do nothing to robbers, annonce 100k reward to the first person, who robs 5 people

People who have those kind of bots earn way more than 100k
People who've been robbed, have no idea how to make a bot
smart citizens: ill just play in a licensed regulated BM casino and not a shifty gray market offshore site and i wont ever think twice about this stuff.

Last edited by limon; 01-04-2024 at 11:30 PM.
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01-04-2024 , 11:39 PM
I can't think of a more stupid, ill-thought out response. Like, seriously what are they thinking?
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