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01-29-2016 , 09:56 PM
They said they had made their decision based on their bot detection tools, which probably just means they alarm bell didn't go off. They felt it must be fine, and haven't looked into it.

Otherwise, they would have used analysis by their expert or something along those lines as a reason why the account is not a bot.
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01-29-2016 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroRoller
Where?
Post #134 in this thread Michael Josem of the PokerStars Communications Team writes this:
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Michael J
Hello Players,

At the conclusion of our major tournaments, PokerStars regularly reviews accounts to ensure that they played in accordance with our rules. As is our routine practice, PokerStars has investigated this account for possible use of prohibited software and we are confident that the tournament was not played by a bot, and that the gameplay decisions were made by a human being.

We have made that judgment based upon our bot-detection tools, which broadly include:

a) Scanning for prohibited third party software running in conjunction with the PokerStars client.

b) Collecting detailed information of how each player interacts with the PokerStars client on a fundamental technical level. This includes, but is not limited to:
- the manner in which hardware and third party software is used to input actions
- the usage of various client features
- chat at the tables (or lack thereof)

c) Recording hand histories for analysis. This allows the review of aspects such as:
- volume of games played
- consistency in gameplay decisions
- anomalies in gameplay decisions
- presence of human errors

d) Maintaining detailed records of each player's sessions, including:
- the start and end time of each session
- the duration of each session
- the number and duration of breaks in between sessions

e) Conducting real-time Turing tests during play, such as CAPTCHAs which prompt players to type in a random word, and other proprietary tests which are designed to be imperceptible to humans.

Currently, we don’t have an explanation for why the player didn’t join in discussions for a deal, and, in accordance with our normal reviews, our investigations will continue until we are comfortable with the activity on this account.
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01-29-2016 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerSpiller
Next time I hit the FT in a large tourny I know what'll do... and in the chat I'll only write "Error! unknown command"
lmao that would be classic
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01-29-2016 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by _Loki_
Post #134 in this thread Michael Josem of the PokerStars Communications Team writes this:
Bah! All that says is their bot detection didn't detect that he was a bot but they're still looking into why he didn't respond in chat or in PMs or on the phone.

Considering the PLO bot thing, PokerStars bot detection software might need to catch up to where current botters are. Just like they lagged behind the times in their collusion detection with the Chinese DoN scandal. Also remember him commenting in a thread of a picture of 3 guys sitting together with 6 laptops with cellular wifi adapters on them playing DoNs on all the screens and he said it looked normal.
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01-30-2016 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerSpiller
Next time I hit the FT in a large tourny I know what'll do... and in the chat I'll only write "Error! unknown command"
My favorite is ->

SYS ERR=7
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01-30-2016 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroRoller
Bah! All that says is their bot detection didn't detect that he was a bot but they're still looking into why he didn't respond in chat or in PMs or on the phone...
No thanks for finding that for you? There's juuust a hint of shooting the messenger in your response - I'm just answering your question.
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01-30-2016 , 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AnotherMakiaveli
if the account is suspended permanently, the remaining players, except the winner, should move up one place, right?
Good question since its now been a week since IvanHaldi last played on Stars.

1 LuckboxStami $48,042
2 IvanHaldi $35,720
3 artmaxx_dk $25,245
4 HochMeista $17,595..............

I'm sure artmaxx would love an extra $10k in his account along with everyone else.
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01-30-2016 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by _Loki_
No thanks for finding that for you? There's juuust a hint of shooting the messenger in your response - I'm just answering your question.
Thank you.
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01-30-2016 , 08:24 AM
I really feel sorry for Josem having to spout off that crap response.

I used to think a lot of his posts
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01-30-2016 , 10:43 AM
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01-31-2016 , 06:21 AM
http://www.pokernews.com/news/2016/0...erns-23941.htm

Eyebrows were raised involving a recent event on PokerStars that occurred late on the second day during this year's Turbo Championship of Online Poker (TCOOP) when many questioned whether the runner-up was a human player or a bot.

After investigating the situation, PokerStars ruled that the player was indeed human and not powered by artificial intelligence. Here's how the situation unfolded.

When the TCOOP-08: $82 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Big Antes, Optional Re-Entry], $200K Gtd was down to just two players, a PokerStars representative with the screenname "HostMatthieM" was invited into chat to help potentially facilitate a deal between the final two players — Finland's "LuckboxStami" and Russia's "IvanHaldi".

"LuckboxStami" requested the PokerStars host to present the figures with $4,000 left to play if agreed to by both players. The host quickly came back with figures that would have awarded "LuckboxStami" $40,393.85 and "IvanHaldi" $39,450.15 with each the chance at winning more money and a TCOOP bracelet if they beat the other.

This is where things got interesting, as "LuckboxStami" immediately accepted the deal by typing into the chat box, "I agree." His opponent, however, was silent. The host then asked for a moment to find someone that spoke Russian, but "IvanHaldi" still didn't respond after this.
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01-31-2016 , 06:25 AM
Online poker destroyed by BOT.
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01-31-2016 , 06:27 AM
Merry Christmas everyone!
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01-31-2016 , 06:37 AM
If anyone thinks that a pokerstars owned media (pokernews) is where you should be getting objective news about pokerstars then you must be ******ed.

I'm not going to read the pile of rubbish but it would probably serve you better to read the actual thread here that contains everything and I would assume the article is based on.

Why we need to know about another pokerstars useless media effort I will never know.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...-08-a-1584765/
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01-31-2016 , 07:19 AM
I guess we're never going to find out, but I really want to know his excuse for not answering in English, Russian or the phone.
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01-31-2016 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by roddy
I guess we're never going to find out, but I really want to know his excuse for not answering in English, Russian or the phone.
probably was bot then he found and and phoned pokerstars when he realised his bot won him a bunch of money / ft'd a tcoop and gave a dumb reasoning and they decided to turn a blind eye and just accept the excuse instead of making a big drama / news about it
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01-31-2016 , 07:43 AM
A 2+2 thread about a pokernews post about a 2+2 thread. Always a good idea.
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01-31-2016 , 07:50 AM
Pokerstars should be indicted for mass buggery of its players.

They are the king of the castle and hold all the cards.

Boycott it.
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01-31-2016 , 09:07 AM
Online poker is gone.
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01-31-2016 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkMattersMan
Pokerstars should be indicted for mass buggery of its players.

They are the king of the castle and hold all the cards.

Boycott it.
Not sure about indictment, but them failing to provide a fair environment while taking huge amounts of rake out of the games is probably the one thing, where we could really harm them back.
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01-31-2016 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PasswordGotHacked
I'm not going to read the pile of rubbish but it would probably serve you better to read the actual thread here that contains everything and I would assume the article is based on.
+1

It's beyond me why anyone would read pokernews when they can just read the source material direct in NVG.
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01-31-2016 , 11:27 AM
has player in question played since?
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01-31-2016 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
+1

It's beyond me why anyone would read pokernews when they can just read the source material direct in NVG.
Because the word "news"
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01-31-2016 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by VolumeKing
Because the word "news"
Ok, if someone doesn't read NVG then pokernews.com runs a good NVG highlights service, but people who start threads here based on pokernews.com stories should assume we already know and don't want to read a second hand report on a conversation some of us were participating in anyway.
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01-31-2016 , 03:27 PM
Just had a quick look at his playing days. He mostly play on weekends. If he was indeed a bot, wouldn't he be playing everyday or more often? But still very fishy for not responding after agreeing for deal. Maybe his keyboard was not working - we'll only come to know once they deploy ft replays and see what his bet sizes were.
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